What is also amazing is that those who were so outraged by the Patriot Act now support killing an American citizen without proving he was guilty. This administration has acted as judge, jury, and executioner and we are supposed to accept that this is OK.
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You saying Al-Alwaki was innocent? He renounced his citizenship and was living Yemen. No wonder we think conservatards are misinformed uninformed and just flat out wrong on every issue of significance. But 'tards get their panties in a wad over abortion, gay marriage, gays in the military and immigration, both legal and illegal. Tards scream states rights, but then bitch about anchor babies getting benefits and in state tuition. The whining about Al-Awaki is laughable.
Too bad the Bush Cheney duds couldn't get the job done, and Obama has to show the 'tards that the US is still capable of following thru with its threats.
Poster #41 is yet another example of how the far left libbies and the far right neocons want to coddle Islamic Terrorists. Maybe we should serve them cookies and milk and sentence them to Community Service? What a fool.
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- Breakingnews Oct 09, 2011 at 08:47: AM
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Give it up - Your posts on this thread amount to pissing in the ocean.
Who were the innocent people that were waterboarded? C
Are to document?
How do you know he was a terrorist? What were his crimes?
Just admit it, you libs are only for this type of aggression when a dem does it. You always put party before principle.
I support this guy being killed. Based on what we have been told, it was likely the right thing to do. But, the government should have full transparency when they make a decision to kill an American citizen. On our streets, we ahve extremists who want to challenge the basics of what it means to be American. We have those who have bombed and destroyed, and are labeled as home grown terrorists. We do not kill them without trial. If you really read about this case, there is supposition, encouragement, and incitement but no direct action from the person in question. I am stunned that more of you refuse to see the huge risk this action reflects, putting anyone who speaks out against the government at risk. This action dwarfs concerns about the Patriot Act, wire tapping, and all the rest that had libbies up in arms. But now that this is obama, they are silent and endorse the action. Or the lunacy that we should not aggressively question these people but it is perfectly ok to kill them? We have lost too much when we allow the government unbridled power and quit askign questions.
This article lays out both sides very nicely.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/w...s-memo-made-legal-case-to-kill-a-citizen.html
This article lays out both sides very nicely.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/w...s-memo-made-legal-case-to-kill-a-citizen.html
Who decided who was innocent and who was guilty here? You advocate killing without trial yet by throwing in the word 'innocent' although that was never proven, are against measures to gain more information. Where's the proof those waterboarded were innocent? Where's the proof this guy was guilty? You are trying to rationalize obama's actions when it just does not make sense.
- ~T~ Oct 10, 2011 at 08:59: AM
Transparency?? Our government knew exactly what this actor was up to for a good ten years & his actions were widely publicized in the media. He (al-Awlaki) denounced his US citizenship...so the American citizenship question for this guy anyhow was moot. He was aware of the threat against his life & had full opportunity to turn himself in. The better question...”Can a U.S. citizen --himself or through another -- use the U.S. judicial system to vindicate his constitutional rights while simultaneously evading U.S. law enforcement authorities, calling for "jihad against the West," and engaging in operational planning for an organization that has already carried out numerous terrorist attacks against the United States?” The time for coddling this guy with a happy question & answer session long passed SPN. https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2010cv1469-31
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Remember your views when the next US citizen is up for discussion.
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- Breakingnews Oct 10, 2011 at 09:56: AM
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Once a person becomes an avowed terrorist, threatens the US and is a member of Al Qaeda, the US citizenship goes out the window - He is essentially a traitor.
What part of that do you not understand?
End of discussion.
It will interesting to see how you whine, bitch and moan if the Major Hasan goes to trial and does not get the death penalty. There is no doubt he is guilty, and should already be dead. But you want a "fair trial", good, but remember that he could win be being insane, a co, a conservative, a fundamentalist religious zealot etc.
He is a US citizen and therefore has these rights even if we don't like the outcome of a trial. Insane? Likely. The others do not get you "off". You are quite the nut.
Al-Qaida's Yemeni offshoot on Monday confirmed the killing of U.S.-born militant cleric Anwar al-Awlaki late last month and vowed to avenge the prominent propagandist's death.
Funny how this kind of statement, that the US' actions would encourage more terrorism, was on the lips of every libbie and most media outlets on a daily basis. But now, next to nothing. Libbies are sure a fickle bunch.
Funny how this kind of statement, that the US' actions would encourage more terrorism, was on the lips of every libbie and most media outlets on a daily basis. But now, next to nothing. Libbies are sure a fickle bunch.