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You are all employees at will. You have no employment protection. PDI can hire and fire whoever they want regardless of performance or tenure of employment.

Unless you are in a protected class and PDI did something like fired all employees over 40 or all the black or only female reps you would have zero case. Even if some massive contract comes along in February and you were not considered you have no case. If you were the top rep in the company every year for the last 15 years PDI has zero obligation to even look at your resume if a new contract starts the day after you are terminated.



Isn't America and Capitalism wonderful.! The American worker has no rights and the Tea party and Republicans like it that way.



Whoever started this thread is just way off base.


I feel bad for any good PDI employee who lost their job but that's the nature of contract sales. If a client ends the contract abruptly you are out of luck. The client may have some monetary obligation to corporate but PDI has no legal obligation to compensate its sales reps for lost wages.

PDI management is dumb but they would never put anything in writing about not rehiring former employees who were in good standing and lost their job because of lack of business.

The only people PDI ever carried when there was no active contract or very little work were a skeleton crew of a few managers but I don't believe they even do that anymore.


PDI Corporate has failed to secure any new large contracts for the Shared Sales group for quite some time now. I will be surprised if they just don't eliminate the entire Shared Sales Team when the next contract ends. The people at the top just don't care about the reps on the Shared Sales Team.

Good Luck and Good Selling to All and God Bless America !
 






I am the one that started the blog. I am going to try to set up an email account for us to all get in contact with each other. I don't know how to do a blog but if someone would let me know, I will try it !!!! We got to get together on this.
 






This is a lost cause . Didn't you read the last thread? I am sorry, but you must have a screw loose. Knock Knock anybody home?? Are you all there ? You should try applying for disability because obviously the lights are on but nobody's home.
 






Anonymous said:
You are all employees at will. You have no employment protection. PDI can hire and fire whoever they want regardless of performance or tenure of employment.

Unless you are in a protected class and PDI did something like fired all employees over 40 or all the black or only female reps you would have zero case. Even if some massive contract comes along in February and you were not considered you have no case. If you were the top rep in the company every year for the last 15 years PDI has zero obligation to even look at your resume if a new contract starts the day after you are terminated.



Isn't America and Capitalism wonderful.! The American worker has no rights and the Tea party and Republicans like it that way.



Whoever started this thread is just way off base.


I feel bad for any good PDI employee who lost their job but that's the nature of contract sales. If a client ends the contract abruptly you are out of luck. The client may have some monetary obligation to corporate but PDI has no legal obligation to compensate its sales reps for lost wages.

PDI management is dumb but they would never put anything in writing about not rehiring former employees who were in good standing and lost their job because of lack of business.

The only people PDI ever carried when there was no active contract or very little work were a skeleton crew of a few managers but I don't believe they even do that anymore.


PDI Corporate has failed to secure any new large contracts for the Shared Sales group for quite some time now. I will be surprised if they just don't eliminate the entire Shared Sales Team when the next contract ends. The people at the top just don't care about the reps on the Shared Sales Team.

Good Luck and Good Selling to All and God Bless America !
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Now how in the world did you get the Tea Party and Republicans as the cause of the layoffs. I think you have had too much Obama lies to accept the fact that it's the nature of the business that when a contract is over or only certain territories have doctors to call on YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB. Get over it, there is no work. It has nothing to do with your Outstanding performance or years of service, there is no work in your area. Go blame your Democratic party for the Affordable Healthcare bill that they shoved down the throats of the American people and now doctors are leaving the practice and businesses are not hiring and now we are all experiencing unemployment. Get over it. Go collect your unemployment and help the economy and wait for the wealth to be spread your way. We are just the beginning of the layoffs and probably won't be called back because there are no new contracts therefore NO JOBS with PDI. What don't you understand?
 






Of course you are probably correct, but since you apparently aren't "one of us", you don't really need to be involved in this perhaps fruitless effort, do you? So why are you offering up an opinion in the matter? Maybe we are fooling ourselves. Maybe that is what we need to do right now. Perhaps we would merely like to commiserate with each other. Or provide some job-hunting assistance to someone who is in the same boat. Or...for all I know, you are my DM.
 






Okay I've been with PDI for a long time. It's simple, if there are calls in your territory you work. If contract ends and no new contracts you lose your job. The "old" PDI was more productive and professional. I'm sorry it's true. America, Nancy and Frank would have no problem firing everyone and hiring 24 year old inexpensive inexperienced reps. The contracts are crap! ABBVIE, seriously? What a joke. Get contracts with solid companies with products the docs WANT.
 






Ok, be patient !!!!! There is a case and attorney's are currently doing their research on it. Don't listen to the above negative posts.....like the one above said, you are probably my old DM. There is no way that PDI is going to get away with what they have done to us employees with the most number of years of services and get away with it. Just be patient and we will be reaching out to you are who were terminated unjustly !!!!!
 






Thanks, Previous Poster, one really must wonder why a person with no skin the game would bother to waste his/her time responding so adamantly to what is essentially a non-issue for that same person. We all know that this a "forbidden" site so it does make sense for the company (and not solely PDI) to monitor what is being said here. In turn, anonymity provides opportunity for one of the company's lower-level minions to put forth the company line and instigate general dissension among the workers. Not calling up Marxist philosophies here, indeed, the mention of various political parties/idiom seems to be an effective method of muddying the water by introducing an emotional component to the situation (much like the strategy of our actual politicians), thereby obfuscating the true issue at hand. We must not take the bait and give any credence to these negative posts. They are only attempting to put forth an agenda (even if their assertions are correct).
 






Hi All...another terminated rep here with close to 8 years at PDI . The reason the manger said the terminated reps will not be recalled is because we have to reapply. If you were in good standing, keep in touch with your former manager. If something comes up in your area on the PDI website, call your manager and let them know you are applying. It's that simple, no mystery here.They are constantly working on new business but until the contracts are signed it is not a done deal. Jobs are only posted after the contract is signed, otherwise the company might spend money and time with no return.
 






Let me say this. If you were, indeed, a terminated rep with over 8 years, you would know that this is the first time PDI removed all of our equipment and informed us that we would need to reapply for our former positions when there was a lack of work. I myself have been laid off 3 times during my career at PDI. At no time did I reapply. The first 2 occurrences, we were told to "just hang in there", that we would be called back as soon as new business came in. The lengths of the layoffs were 2 months and 3 weeks, respectively. We retained our computers et al. When business did come in, we were called back and thanked for our loyalty. Even the past layoff after losing Tekturna did not involve returning equipment or reapplying for the position.

Based on history and also on the tone of your remarks, I would have to conclude that you are a PDI-management agent who is once again deviously putting forth the company line. Either that, or an inconceivably naive individual, who does not question the fact that there is no reason for PDI firing you instead of merely laying you off.
 






Hi Folks,

I sincerely wish all of you good luck in finding a job at another company or industry .

Please realize that the bottom line is , there are no new sizable contracts coming soon to PDI . If there were , they would have furloughed you in anticipation of filling those contracts. Do not hold your breath about future employment with PDI. It is a sinking ship.

Check the web site if you like but there only a handful of jobs that have been posted since December 2013.

Even if they used the word "fired " you are all eligible to collect unemployment. You basically all lost your job because there is NO WORK in your area. I worked for PDI up until very recently and I was not part of this latest layoff . I am not sure how they worded your reason for termination. My guess it was vague and they never gave you a formal letter. A Truly classless organization.


The PDI business acquisition team and top management are not aggressively looking for new contracts for the Established Sales Team, or Select Access ,or Shared Sales or whatever the heck they are calling you in 2014.

I worked for PDI for over 10 years and the handwriting was on the wall for several years. If you have been at PDI for awhile you must have noticed that the last several contracts were getting smaller and smaller. Many of them did not even include many major metropolitan areas of the USA. Almost all recent contracts were 1 year or less. All bad signs folks .

Bottom line is PDI has been neglecting Select Access since Nancy Lurker took over.

Essentially the Shared Sales Team is being phased out and is being replaced by DCA which is the telemarketing/ tele-detailing division of PDI. Go to the PDI web site and read all about it folks!

This division mails samples, distributes medical literature advises offices about current Rx coverage and uses the office managers and other staff to communicate about clients drugs and services to the doctors. All for about 1/3 the price they paid you as a Select Access Representative!

Isnt Capitlaism great! The main way companies in America are making profits (including PDI ) is by reducing labor costs. Not by making a better product or providing better services. it is a very sad state of affairs for the American Pharmaceutical representative and American worker.

PDI Select Access is drawing its last breath.


Good Luck with your job search but please realize that PDI Select Access is on life support with a DNR standing order from Nancy Lurker.

Good Luck and Good Selling to All !
 






Please understand that CSOs, including PDI, look at sales employees as "warm bodies" to fill open slots on a contract as needed. When contracts end so does the tenure of most of its reps. It's just the nature of the CSO so don't take it personally. CSO reps tend to be "faces without a name" in the eyes of upper management. You could have had great ride-along reports and annual evals. but that does not matter in the scheme of things. You are just a number that can be discarded as easily as you were hired. Again, don't take it personally.
 






I agree with all of these statements but please don't make the mistake in thinking this is limited to contract. This industry is a sinking ship and we should have all seen this coming for years now. I, like many pharma reps have become complacent and that has proven to be very bad mistake. Many reps are laid off and unfortunately pharma jobs are becoming increasingly more limited. Qualifications are becoming much more targeted, territories are huge and the hoops one has to jump through to land a job have become obnoxious. It has become mentally and physically exausting. I for one am tired of it and doing what I can to get out of this industry.
 






Agree with previous post. Pharmaceutical industry is changing. Unfortunately, the current PDI management team has not positioned themselves well. Few industry contacts and no industry respect. PDI has a bad reputation. Which is exactly why we are only able to win short term contracts or drugs no other CSOs want. I too will be leaving pharmaceutical sales.
 






Anonymous said:
Do you think there was a pattern of age discrimination?

It does sound like people should be able to get unemployment if you lose your job thru no fault of your own.
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I just interviewed for a position with them - had awesome phone interview. Seems after I had a face to face with the PDI manager - so fake. He asked some off the wall questions. I think my age was a factor.

Pharmaceuticals needs to understand that doctors like someone with age not some 20 something know nothings.
 






Anonymous said:
I just interviewed for a position with them - had awesome phone interview. Seems after I had a face to face with the PDI manager - so fake. He asked some off the wall questions. I think my age was a factor.

Pharmaceuticals needs to understand that doctors like someone with age not some 20 something know nothings.
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Which state? Didn't think there were any shares sales jobs?
 






Anonymous said:
You are all employees at will. You have no employment protection. PDI can hire and fire whoever they want regardless of performance or tenure of employment.

Unless you are in a protected class and PDI did something like fired all employees over 40 or all the black or only female reps you would have zero case. Even if some massive contract comes along in February and you were not considered you have no case. If you were the top rep in the company every year for the last 15 years PDI has zero obligation to even look at your resume if a new contract starts the day after you are terminated.



Isn't America and Capitalism wonderful.! The American worker has no rights and the Tea party and Republicans like it that way.


Whoever started this thread is just way off base.


I feel bad for any good PDI employee who lost their job but that's the nature of contract sales. If a client ends the contract abruptly you are out of luck. The client may have some monetary obligation to corporate but PDI has no legal obligation to compensate its sales reps for lost wages.

PDI management is dumb but they would never put anything in writing about not rehiring former employees who were in good standing and lost their job because of lack of business.

The only people PDI ever carried when there was no active contract or very little work were a skeleton crew of a few managers but I don't believe they even do that anymore.


PDI Corporate has failed to secure any new large contracts for the Shared Sales group for quite some time now. I will be surprised if they just don't eliminate the entire Shared Sales Team when the next contract ends. The people at the top just don't care about the reps on the Shared Sales Team.

Good Luck and Good Selling to All and God Bless America !
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You are exactly right about the Republicans. They are waging a war on workers. It is a national priority, and the Republican governors follow suit. You are also correct about having to be a member of a "protected class" in order to have a legal case.
 






Anonymous said:
You are exactly right about the Republicans. They are waging a war on workers. It is a national priority, and the Republican governors follow suit. You are also correct about having to be a member of a "protected class" in order to have a legal case.
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PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT! Sounds like a lot of gas to me. We are/were all at will employees. You knew it going into it, and you know it now. Your Pin up, Poster Child, President has made more millionaires at the expense of the middle class than ANYONE before him. Doubled the Dow I have heard the democrats exclaim, and who benefited? Only those who were invested in the market. How did he do it? Easy money lending practices, artificially low interest rates, quantitative easing of the money supply, an $18 Trillion debt(doubled in his 6 years), and a crony capitalists federal grants program that enriched campaign donors and green initiative lap dogs wallets. All at the expense of the unemployed, shrinking middle class!! Sadly the misinformed still believe that democrats are all for the middle class and working poor. If you care to investigate, the democrat presidential campaign coffers have listed more millionaire donors, that donated millions in campaign funds, than the republicans. Not the other way around. Our so called watchdog media fails to report this public records knowledge because it does not fit the narrative created by the democrats and their willing accomplice media. I'm sorry to report to you that the only "protected class" anymore is the democrat ruling class.
 






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Now how in the world did you get the Tea Party and Republicans as the cause of the layoffs. I think you have had too much Obama lies to accept the fact that it's the nature of the business that when a contract is over or only certain territories have doctors to call on YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB. Get over it, there is no work. It has nothing to do with your Outstanding performance or years of service, there is no work in your area. Go blame your Democratic party for the Affordable Healthcare bill that they shoved down the throats of the American people and now doctors are leaving the practice and businesses are not hiring and now we are all experiencing unemployment. Get over it. Go collect your unemployment and help the economy and wait for the wealth to be spread your way. We are just the beginning of the layoffs and probably won't be called back because there are no new contracts therefore NO JOBS with PDI. What don't you understand?
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Nothing worse than a right-wing rant.
 






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