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Past experience, Level of independence, Tenure . look around who is being hired now . Not 2 years ago, or even 1 year ago.
You sell needles and syringes and make $93k. How's the prefill run working out for you at $0.29each?
ok - me homework is done for evening - now on to war and peace
Ok here's the deal..
Woman. Single. In 30's. No kids. Not a lot of debt. Making less than 100k now in a sales job that pays ok but not great (in the 80's annually), pharma perks (car, phone etc.) a great culture that cares about employees and is a very stable and solid company and has been around awhile. I have a great QOL b/c its pretty much a no brainer job with not high accountability and a boring non innovative product. I'm bored, feel unchallenged, unmotivated and burnt out. BUT I don't want to be too ungrateful b/c (1) I have a job and (2) I am getting a decent paycheck and haven't experienced any stress doing this job.
However, Bonuses and commission SUCK! I'm constantly finishing over 100% and still have only cleared no more than the 80's between base and bonus. We are also capped.
I'm ready to move to the next level as I love sales but only when I am being challenged, have a great innovative product to sell and i am paid well for my performance and hard work. I have been wanting to get into med sales and was told about this position by a recruiter.
Bascially my dilemma is this. i have read enough posts on here that say run like hell from this company or opportunity with less than a few people who gave a truly balanced opinion. But overall idea I get is this company has an awesome product, horrible culture, is churn and burn (lucky to last over 2-3 years), micromanaged, you pretty much don't have a life, BUT pays very well if you put in the time and perform under all of the stress.
I'm not a person that believes money is everything or worth losing your sanity, but i have a very specific goal over the next 2-3 years, and that is to make as much money as I can even if that means sacrificing what little life I have. I am no longer looking for a career or growth opportunities within a company anymore as I have already made up my mind, i will pursue my passions ( in the creative field) and eventually become an entrepenuer in that field. But i definitley need to have a nice savings set aside to do that.
So. i plan on striking out on my own in the next 2-3 years and I can only do that if I am able to make enough money in bonuses and comission to stash away and save for when I do make that move. I fugure now is the perfect time to do such a thing b/c I don't have a family or kids to worry about.
I cant do that in my currect "safe" position now, and I realize I may have to accept or look for more aggressive sales opportunties like this that may require long hours, micromanaging and high accountability. what i am saying is, if i am going to take a job that is very aggressive and demanding of my time and its mostly work, but it pays awesome based on performance and the product is actually innovative and fun to sell or serves a purpose in people's lives (IOW's I and/or the product is actually helping to make a difference in people's lives) should I do it despite the bad? I am not looking for a career anymore since I already know what i want to do with the rest of my life.
I am willing to work my arse off to do it.
So given my situation - is it still worth it to pursue this opportunity? Like I said, i wouldn't do it if I had a family or kids or even in a serious Long-term relationship, but right now I am only acocuntable to myself and feel if i can last 2-3 years here that would be good despiite the horrible culture and other things I have read here.
I am really a hard worker, and go getter, but i find only when I know I will be paid well for my efforts is when I really go for it. Other than that I feel unmotivated and un challenged if I am not making decent bonuses and commissions - espcially when I am performing.
So my questoin is - in my case does is make sense to simply go for the money and deal with the downside for a short period of time or should i keep looking for a middle of the road opportunity where I can still make decent money (maybe nothing cose to what is made here) and still have a work/life balance?
Serious replies would be appreciated!!I'm just curious as to how others here view it since you work here. And honest and balanced reviews would be great even if you are angry at the company or were shafted.
Honey, I'll tell you what, if we both make it, I'll shove it up your ass so hard when we meet up in training, that you'll be glad you took the job. Its your right of passage. Forget about the "safe position", you are going to bend over and assume the position. And then you'll probably fail out of training and go home... sore and feelings hurt. But go ahead and take that offer if you get it. Please.
Honey, I'll tell you what, if we both make it, I'll shove it up your ass so hard when we meet up in training, that you'll be glad you took the job. Its your right of passage. Forget about the "safe position", you are going to bend over and assume the position. And then you'll probably fail out of training and go home... sore and feelings hurt. But go ahead and take that offer if you get it. Please.
Your parents must be very proud of you!
You work for a company that cares about its employees...thats sweet. Ive yet to see a company like that.
Honestly, unless you are a hot lesbian, or already had older kids i probably wouldnt consider you. Sorry.
If you were 40, hot, smart and had great experience, id hire you.
If you are a halfway decent looking 30 year old woman, you will be married within a year or two, and then have kids a year or two later and your gone. Why invest time and money into that?
Of course, most dumbasses (m and F) in this industry job hop constantly anyway.
Honestly, unless you are a hot lesbian, or already had older kids i probably wouldnt consider you. Sorry.
If you were 40, hot, smart and had great experience, id hire you.
If you are a halfway decent looking 30 year old woman, you will be married within a year or two, and then have kids a year or two later and your gone. Why invest time and money into that?
Of course, most dumbasses (m and F) in this industry job hop constantly anyway.
Ok here's the deal..
Woman. Single. In 30's. No kids. Not a lot of debt. Making less than 100k now in a sales job that pays ok but not great (in the 80's annually), pharma perks (car, phone etc.) a great culture that cares about employees and is a very stable and solid company and has been around awhile. I have a great QOL b/c its pretty much a no brainer job with not high accountability and a boring non innovative product. I'm bored, feel unchallenged, unmotivated and burnt out. BUT I don't want to be too ungrateful b/c (1) I have a job and (2) I am getting a decent paycheck and haven't experienced any stress doing this job.
However, Bonuses and commission SUCK! I'm constantly finishing over 100% and still have only cleared no more than the 80's between base and bonus. We are also capped.
I'm ready to move to the next level as I love sales but only when I am being challenged, have a great innovative product to sell and i am paid well for my performance and hard work. I have been wanting to get into med sales and was told about this position by a recruiter.
Bascially my dilemma is this. i have read enough posts on here that say run like hell from this company or opportunity with less than a few people who gave a truly balanced opinion. But overall idea I get is this company has an awesome product, horrible culture, is churn and burn (lucky to last over 2-3 years), micromanaged, you pretty much don't have a life, BUT pays very well if you put in the time and perform under all of the stress.
I'm not a person that believes money is everything or worth losing your sanity, but i have a very specific goal over the next 2-3 years, and that is to make as much money as I can even if that means sacrificing what little life I have. I am no longer looking for a career or growth opportunities within a company anymore as I have already made up my mind, i will pursue my passions ( in the creative field) and eventually become an entrepenuer in that field. But i definitley need to have a nice savings set aside to do that.
So. i plan on striking out on my own in the next 2-3 years and I can only do that if I am able to make enough money in bonuses and comission to stash away and save for when I do make that move. I fugure now is the perfect time to do such a thing b/c I don't have a family or kids to worry about.
I cant do that in my currect "safe" position now, and I realize I may have to accept or look for more aggressive sales opportunties like this that may require long hours, micromanaging and high accountability. what i am saying is, if i am going to take a job that is very aggressive and demanding of my time and its mostly work, but it pays awesome based on performance and the product is actually innovative and fun to sell or serves a purpose in people's lives (IOW's I and/or the product is actually helping to make a difference in people's lives) should I do it despite the bad? I am not looking for a career anymore since I already know what i want to do with the rest of my life.
I am willing to work my arse off to do it.
So given my situation - is it still worth it to pursue this opportunity? Like I said, i wouldn't do it if I had a family or kids or even in a serious Long-term relationship, but right now I am only acocuntable to myself and feel if i can last 2-3 years here that would be good despiite the horrible culture and other things I have read here.
I am really a hard worker, and go getter, but i find only when I know I will be paid well for my efforts is when I really go for it. Other than that I feel unmotivated and un challenged if I am not making decent bonuses and commissions - espcially when I am performing.
So my questoin is - in my case does is make sense to simply go for the money and deal with the downside for a short period of time or should i keep looking for a middle of the road opportunity where I can still make decent money (maybe nothing cose to what is made here) and still have a work/life balance?
Serious replies would be appreciated!!
I wouldn't take this position if I were you since you sound like you lack the maturity and confidence. You may say that you have both but I don't see it for what is rumored to be a very high pressured position. I am suprised that you even got past the recruier and hifing manager to get an offer because and please don't take this the wrong way, you seem to be more comfortable in the pharma world and I don't feel it for you in a hardcore device position. You would be so much better off getting started in the creative field that you want to be in even if you are taking baby steps while you are doing your pharma gig. You are 30 years old and not a kid anymore. You will be 40 in the blink of an eye. Get started on what you really want to do and don't take a job if you are not sure about it.