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These schering people would NEVER have been hire by merck. Are you kidding me? I look at their managers and directors and feel sick!

We bought a shit company and now these deadbeats get to say they work for merck. Priceless.
 






These schering people would NEVER have been hire by merck. Are you kidding me? I look at their managers and directors and feel sick!

We bought a shit company and now these deadbeats get to say they work for merck. Priceless.

As if Merck was something to be proud of! Merck is a sinking ship...buying Schering allowed it to keep afloat a little longer. Unless Merck's lame R&D turns around, the company's future is bleak.
 






At the time of the merger, there were more than just a few colleagues that came in from S-P that had previously worked for Merck. For years they never hesitated to inform their S-P colleagues exactly the sentiments that you voice here - until in the months after the merger they had experienced first-hand what Merck had become during the time that they were away. Collectively these formerly smug co-workers expressed shock at what an incompetent company Merck had become over the years. Merck ranks squarely in the middle of an industry that is itself only mediocre i.e. they're no better or worse than any other major pharma. However, the extent to which they squandered their astounding advantages of reputation, talent, and finances over the last 15 years will be the stuff of future MBA educations. If anyone plans on pointing the figure at how "hollow" S-P seemed to be after the reality was known, consider which Merck clowns actually did the due diligence that might have revealed that. It was no secret that Fred Hassan was keeping his personal pig especially fat for the taking. Rather than maintaining the famous (and presently without basis in reality) Merck smug attitude, everyone needs to consider what can be done to turn around the actual state of Merck. A state that has nothing to do with the merger, by the way. The net benefit now hinges on the Remicade decision. And who do you suppose made that decision? Sadly, there probably are more Kool-Aid drinkers at Merck than there are those that notice that the emperor is a bit naked these days.
 






Three of the four SP reps I know are better than a lot of Merck reps. One is just waiting for his payoff when he's cut. Work is not his thing. The SP DMs? Egos are out of touch with reality.
 






At the time of the merger, there were more than just a few colleagues that came in from S-P that had previously worked for Merck. For years they never hesitated to inform their S-P colleagues exactly the sentiments that you voice here - until in the months after the merger they had experienced first-hand what Merck had become during the time that they were away. Collectively these formerly smug co-workers expressed shock at what an incompetent company Merck had become over the years. Merck ranks squarely in the middle of an industry that is itself only mediocre i.e. they're no better or worse than any other major pharma. However, the extent to which they squandered their astounding advantages of reputation, talent, and finances over the last 15 years will be the stuff of future MBA educations. If anyone plans on pointing the figure at how "hollow" S-P seemed to be after the reality was known, consider which Merck clowns actually did the due diligence that might have revealed that. It was no secret that Fred Hassan was keeping his personal pig especially fat for the taking. Rather than maintaining the famous (and presently without basis in reality) Merck smug attitude, everyone needs to consider what can be done to turn around the actual state of Merck. A state that has nothing to do with the merger, by the way. The net benefit now hinges on the Remicade decision. And who do you suppose made that decision? Sadly, there probably are more Kool-Aid drinkers at Merck than there are those that notice that the emperor is a bit naked these days.

Agree with this. The sooner everyone realizes that this job is just like any pharma job and this company is just like any pharma company the better. Don't expect anything different just because you work for Merck. Merck has oversold the Merck image.
 






I'm so tired of hearing you Merck Sales Reps run your mouths about how much Schering Reps suck. How does it feel to know that your dumb ass executives are the ones who bought a company that wasn't worth a 1/5 what they paid for it? Chances are a higher percentage of Schering Legacy Reps will be kept in the next round of layoffs. You know why? Because 80% of SP Legacy Reps have lower salaries than Merck Reps. Thats all they care about right now, the bottom line, cutting costs. Don't you get it your just a number, Merck Rep or Schering Legacy Rep. I'm sure there are plenty of crappy Schering Reps out there and I know in my territory, the Merck Reps were less than exceptional. But like a good collegue when they asked me to get them access to customers they never could in the past, I did it. So you Merck Reps keep ripping on your Schering Legacy Reps but at the end of the day you'll be standing right in front of him/her in the unemployement line in the next few years. Just a real quick dose of reality for you prestigious Merck or Schering Reps.
 












More than a decade ago our CFO came to the national sales meeting to explain why the then Pfizer-Pharmacia merger was a bad idea. Slide after slide she showed us why merger meant job loss, creativity stifled, and a bad ROA to stockholders. The conclusion was merger was bad and Merck was on the right track going solo. Guess what now with the Merck-SP merger?
 












Poster #3 is right on.

But don't worry, the new MRK might get bought out by JNJ or Pfizer within 24 months, especially if the arbitration outcome is either not favorable or disclosed soon.
 






The Merckies are a bunch of robots with lawyers behind their every step. You were all trained to sell out of the Merck manual and actually thought you were selling. No wonder other industries don't like pharm reps since they think they are all like Merckies.
 






Poster #3 is right on.

But don't worry, the new MRK might get bought out by JNJ or Pfizer within 24 months, especially if the arbitration outcome is either not favorable or disclosed soon.

The consensus has been that the SP-Merck merger was a mistake. Likewise, JNJ or Pfizer would view buying Merck as best to be avoided. What would be gained? Merck's R&D has been unproductive for quite some time (reason for buying SP), and now that SP's pipeline has taken a hit (vorapaxar) Merck's back at square one. Purchasing Merck would only mean more useless buildings and more employees to get rid of...not worth the cost, the trouble.
 






Poster # 12's view may be right,
but given large pharma's history, including large pharma's marginal success in getting R&D discoveries across the FDA finish line,
who can predict if large pharma will, like Pfizer, etc.,
also look increasingly to consolidations to grow earnings if not the science.
 






Too bad if the merger between Merck and SP is seen as a bad decision. You think there are enough people at the HQ that would analyze this deal to death before proceeding.
 






Too bad if the merger between Merck and SP is seen as a bad decision. You think there are enough people at the HQ that would analyze this deal to death before proceeding.
You would think even more that once any CEO decided to acquire some 30-50 billion market cap company, that there are only people at the HQ that would never voice any doubt about it (under pain of corporate death). Most of these silent sycophants only see these mergers as a way of expanding their own empire, anyway, not whether the merger would be good or bad for the company. Look, not much more than 2 weeks of due diligence went into Fred buying Organon as well. Most people that were acquainted with one or two very marginal pipeline projects could see that Fred was getting ready to hold a garage sale and there was more than just Merck sniffing at S-P. Pharma mergers these days are all about buying more time from Wall Street and the pharma CEOs with their short-term outlook think that a merger will buy them enough time to get their money and to get out. The only benefit is in future combined cost reduction and that means mostly layoffs. None of the pharmas has anywhere near the leverage that a Walmart has in retail so purchasing synergy for larger pharma is elusive. Pharmas have never historically been good at cost-savings and they're not good at it now. They know only one trick - layoffs. The former Merck CFO had it right but the fact that those sentiments were last heard from HQ 10 years ago shows you how much the mighty (and straight talk) has fallen.
 












Having been a Merck rep and now back in sales, outside of pharma, you are NOT selling while being a Merck rep. Its a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo and has nothing to do w/ exciting the buyer about your product! And I have to question why some people stay or are kept over others. I saw way too many people that did nothing except kiss ****. They did nothing all day every day!!!
 






These schering people would NEVER have been hire by merck. Are you kidding me? I look at their managers and directors and feel sick!

We bought a shit company and now these deadbeats get to say they work for merck. Priceless.

For one Merck employees can't spell. Merck bought a shit company, so Merck is also shit. Not only Merck destroyed SP, it will self destruct within a short time because it is full of shit employees.
 






Merck reps are on average are "non independent" thinking robots. They like to implement centralized ideas. They have no entrepreniership because Merck culture steals that away. Merck policy tells you how to "wipe your ass".....and why you should appreciate their policies on why you need to wipe your ass.....

I love the voicemails from Merck reps sincerely breaking down the competency pillars like the pillars are of real business substance....They speak like they will lead to increase in market share. People who enjoy the pillars should be working for the IRS........

I am a SP legacy rep and the worst day at Schering is better than my best day at Merck.

I have had several job offers, but I am waiting for my stock options in 2012 before I bail.

P.S my friend who works for a fortune 500 and looked at the 4 pillars and laughed his ass off.....saying dude you don't have a sales job anyone....