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Anonymous said:
Of course if you leave, they keep a larger part of your bonus as well...
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Your comments are spot on. I wonder if the company is allowed not to pay you the bonus if you completed the previous quarter. NVS can make any statements they wish on this matter, but how would a court rule? Anyone know of challenges in court?
 






Anonymous said:
Yeah and she tries to sell us that this is what we asked for. What a load of ......
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Yes I asked them to keep my money longer. Hell just keep my bonus and pay add it to the bottom line. I will drive my own car and pay all my expenses out of my pocket. Don't bother giving me healthcare I just love working here so much.
 


















Thanks for checking in Joe!! Please reitierate that next month when you tell the analysts there won't be any more layoffs this year as well....

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Anonymous said:
They need to keep the money so Dagmar can buy new shoes. So many want to quit they are just waiting for the right opportunity.
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If you find the right opportunity in MS would you leave because of the repercussions of the alleged non-compete? I heard a woman left and NVS sent the new company a copy of the alleged non-compete. Is this true? I also heard this woman currently is unemployed.

The next person to leave to go to another MS company will need to have a good plan or they might be unemployed as well.

This alleged non-compete does not have a timeframe. This means you can never leave to go to another MS company. If you want to stay in MS you are staying with NVS. Thoughts?
 






Anonymous said:
If you find the right opportunity in MS would you leave because of the repercussions of the alleged non-compete? I heard a woman left and NVS sent the new company a copy of the alleged non-compete. Is this true? I also heard this woman currently is unemployed.

The next person to leave to go to another MS company will need to have a good plan or they might be unemployed as well.

This alleged non-compete does not have a timeframe. This means you can never leave to go to another MS company. If you want to stay in MS you are staying with NVS. Thoughts?
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Not true, just someone blowing smoke on the non-compete.
 


















Dagmar drinks the kool aid on a regular basis - I sure never asked to change the payout timeframe no one asked me or even cared about my opinion. Everything Novartis does is always in their best interest don't be misguided in thinking they have your best welfare in mind. All they care about is one thing squeezing every dime out of every product with the current headcount for as long as possible. Once costs overtake the expected revenue and profit everyone goes on the chopping block and then it begins. This will be a yearly event. It may not affect every division; however, in time every division will be affected!
 






Anonymous said:
If you find the right opportunity in MS would you leave because of the repercussions of the alleged non-compete? I heard a woman left and NVS sent the new company a copy of the alleged non-compete. Is this true? I also heard this woman currently is unemployed.

The next person to leave to go to another MS company will need to have a good plan or they might be unemployed as well.

This alleged non-compete does not have a timeframe. This means you can never leave to go to another MS company. If you want to stay in MS you are staying with NVS. Thoughts?
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In this economy a noncompete clause would not be able to last more then 3 months. Ask an employment lawyer. There would have to be a timeframe referenced in the document.
 






I went through this with a past employer and went to work for someone else. it was pre pharma in technology but they got the lawyers on it asap. I took most of the business since it was on contract sales- millions of dollars worth of business- guess what- 99% of the time they are non-enforceable- it's a scare tactic- they can not limit your ability to provide for yourself and your family. Novartis has the free legal service- they don't asky why- you get a free consultation and novatis doen't know what it's about- you get 6 a year for 6 different issues (1 per issue). Check it out on their dime.
 






Anonymous said:
In this economy a noncompete clause would not be able to last more then 3 months. Ask an employment lawyer. There would have to be a timeframe referenced in the document.
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It really doesn't matter if it legal, last 3 months or if a timeframe exists. This is how NVS is using the non-compete. An employee gives notice to go to the competition ie.Biogen. NVS attorney's send a letter to Biogen informing them the new employee signed a non-compete. The new employee new job offer is retracted. Employee who left NVS is not without a job. Unless you decide to leave MS for awhile and return to MS you are not going to the competition. The only way I see a change is if the NVS MS employees form a class action suit against NVS because we were told this was NOT a non-compete. Still looking for evidence and I heard it is available stating we were NOT signing a non-compete.

NVS doesn't realize 1 point. When the bonus decrease, and it will, you will have an unhappy group of employees who are stuck and not working. You lose sales while keeping employees for many, many years who are not giving full effort. NVS - your trick to get us to sign the non-compete will backfire on the company in the end.
 






Anonymous said:
Your comments are spot on. I wonder if the company is allowed not to pay you the bonus if you completed the previous quarter. NVS can make any statements they wish on this matter, but how would a court rule? Anyone know of challenges in court?
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I worded for another company previous to Novartis that did the same thing, so you always left a 1 bonus on the table when you went to work for another company. I heard from a high level person that they knew it was against the law and legally if someone ever challenged this in a court of law they would need to pay the bonus. However, they knew that nobody would ever sue over 1 quarter or 1 trimester of bonus..Atty fees alone are more than the law suite..Thus...companies continue to now pay out on the bonus that the employee had already earned.
 






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