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You are so wrong. We have a few Quintiles contract Reps in our district.
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Well jnj could definitely be using contract sales representatives in all their divisions and they're not for some reason. So I guess that means more job security for some companies over the others. Time to try to transfer over to another division.
 




Anonymous said:
Well jnj could definitely be using contract sales representatives in all their divisions and they're not for some reason. So I guess that means more job security for some companies over the others. Time to try to transfer over to another division.
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Transfer where? here are no new openings in another division to apply for...
 








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J&J Warns of Sales-Force Layoffs - via the WS Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703859204575526532301087498.html[/Q

if anyone should be worried about getting laid off it's the centocor orthobiotech reps. the two oncology reps in my territory are making major money and fake all their calls because they say oncologists don't see reps. they don't even try or seem to care. occassionally they get a lunch every couple of months at certain offices but that's it. i'm working like a dog desperate to get into my hospital accounts and they're totally stress-free. my micromanager is giving me hell over lack of access that i can't control and they tell me their manager accepts that oncologists don't see reps anymore and is ok with their making up calls. and they're not worried about losing their jobs. i guess their numbers are good but its not due to them. they have openings now. i've been hoping to get into centocor orthobiotech but it seems impossible to switch over from here.
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Its been that way for years. Many of us are even more tenured and experienced than they are but they're making the big bucks and not working as hard. It's not just oncology. All the centocor reps have big egos without having anything to show for it.
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We can all see what is happening. If a rep leaves the position it is filled with a contract person. If a whole district leaves for better jobs, retirement or promotions the whole district is replaced with contract reps. There is no magic number of reps our company is going to keep. We are all being replaced as openings happen. This will happen until the day they replace all remaining company representatives with contract replacements in one swoop. Management sees a cost savings for identical work. If the company saves 50% on a position or an average of $50,000, a district of 10 saves a half a million.
 




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We can all see what is happening. If a rep leaves the position it is filled with a contract person. If a whole district leaves for better jobs, retirement or promotions the whole district is replaced with contract reps. There is no magic number of reps our company is going to keep. We are all being replaced as openings happen. This will happen until the day they replace all remaining company representatives with contract replacements in one swoop. Management sees a cost savings for identical work. If the company saves 50% on a position or an average of $50,000, a district of 10 saves a half a million.
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This is all bull crap get it............ pricara is the place to be.........

Good buy every buddy


Paul revere
 




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Transfer where? here are no new openings in another division to apply for...
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Centocor ortho biotech has lots of openings. Those reps get huge base salaries, great commissions, and don't work for shit. Can't believe how much more they get paid than we do when they're not even out working. That company is one big joke and the reps have it too easy. But it's the same with the biotech divisions of all big pharma companies. The leaders are brainwashed into thinking that the biotech reps deserve the higher paychecks, but there's absolutely no difference between biotech and pharma reps. Except pharma reps are micromanaged and actually work harder. I bet the centocor ortho biotech reps couldn't hack it longer than a week at pricara or mcneil.
 




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Centocor ortho biotech has lots of openings. Those reps get huge base salaries, great commissions, and don't work for shit. Can't believe how much more they get paid than we do when they're not even out working. That company is one big joke and the reps have it too easy. But it's the same with the biotech divisions of all big pharma companies. The leaders are brainwashed into thinking that the biotech reps deserve the higher paychecks, but there's absolutely no difference between biotech and pharma reps. Except pharma reps are micromanaged and actually work harder. I bet the centocor ortho biotech reps couldn't hack it longer than a week at pricara or mcneil.
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So why don't you get a Biotech job?
 




Anonymous said:
So why don't you get a Biotech job?
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i've been asking for years but my managers never even let me interview despite my great numbers and awards. i guess you have to have connections within centocor to get in because they have such an arrogance and think they're better than the other jnj pharma groups, even though it's the same damn job. jnj is notorious for never letting reps switch over to other operating biotech and pharma divisions. i took a job with jnj thinking i could work within different divisions through the years but that was a big mistake. i've been stuck in in this pharma division even though i have more experience and work harder than the biotech reps. i'm really hoping the rumor is true that jnj biotech and pharma will be morphing into one company. then they'll have to regulate the salaries between pharma and biotech once and for all. we'll all be upgraded in base because biotech has been overpaying their reps for years. those reps don't work more than two 11-3 shifts a week, if that much. they're always meeting each other for breakfast and lunch and not even trying to get into their accounts anymore because they claim there's no access and their specialists don't see reps anymore. wish my manager would let me get away with that. my customers don't see reps anymore either but i still kill myself day in and day out trying to find a way to get my foot in the door. pit any mcneil rep to a centocor ortho biotech rep and we would cream them in selling efforts and tenacity. really hope the rumors are true and we become one operating company. we're selling the same drugs as they are anyway.
 




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i've been asking for years but my managers never even let me interview despite my great numbers and awards. i guess you have to have connections within centocor to get in because they have such an arrogance and think they're better than the other jnj pharma groups, even though it's the same damn job. jnj is notorious for never letting reps switch over to other operating biotech and pharma divisions. i took a job with jnj thinking i could work within different divisions through the years but that was a big mistake. i've been stuck in in this pharma division even though i have more experience and work harder than the biotech reps. i'm really hoping the rumor is true that jnj biotech and pharma will be morphing into one company. then they'll have to regulate the salaries between pharma and biotech once and for all. we'll all be upgraded in base because biotech has been overpaying their reps for years. those reps don't work more than two 11-3 shifts a week, if that much. they're always meeting each other for breakfast and lunch and not even trying to get into their accounts anymore because they claim there's no access and their specialists don't see reps anymore. wish my manager would let me get away with that. my customers don't see reps anymore either but i still kill myself day in and day out trying to find a way to get my foot in the door. pit any mcneil rep to a centocor ortho biotech rep and we wcream them in selling efforts and tenacity. really hope the rumors are true and we become operating company. we're selling the same drugs as they are anyway.[/QUOTE


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Ever thought that if u would listen to Paul Revere you would have moved on
Ever think your days is numbered and sales dollars minus sales rep overhead equals layoff
Ever thought that this is only a job and pay check
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Look up Russell Williams if you think you know all the answers, in his madness he only fooled his wife.

Now you'll understand the genius of what is to come!
 




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AaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaWARNING

Look up Russell Williams if you think you know all the answers, in his madness he only fooled his wife.

Now you'll understand the genius of what is to come!
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-email web-x the out line
-emails w three different numbers associated w 888 phone numbers
-the next day web-x all three groups, all levels all associates all gone
-no wonder I have been waiting since July for the new co car, there will be a lot of used ones to choose from next week


Signed, Paul Revere

Driving a fusion with 96,000 miles
 




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Look up Russell Williams if you think you know all the answers, in his madness he only fooled his wife.

Now you'll understand the genius of what is to come!
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K-225

-email web-x the out line
-emails w three different numbers associated w 888 phone numbers
-the next day web-x all three groups, all levels all associates all gone
-no wonder I have been waiting since July for the new co car, there will be a lot of used ones to choose from next week


Signed, Paul Revere

Driving a fusion with 96,000 miles
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Not possible to have 96K on a Fusion. You must be driving the prototype model.
 




Likely scenario:

6 month call til Levaquin patent expiration- stop promotion directive consistent with industry practice
Aciphex = $400million and falling
Notcynta not selling- niche market, small nimble sales force needed
Invega- double up products and give to Centocor

Forecast:
Of AI/GI, Pain, and Janssen sales forces only one rep is needed
That's why AI/GI picked up Nucynta
instead of dumping the Rep with the expiring patent, they give everyone Nucynta and now Pain & AI/GI get judged on equal footing
Basically, pain has been selling shit drugs since 2006 and now they will get the boot when compared to most AI/GI reps


Calculate your ratings over last two years
compare to your partners
Who gets the golden ticket?
 




Anonymous said:
Likely scenario:

Notcynta not selling- niche market, small nimble sales force needed
Pain & AI/GI get judged on equal footing
Basically, pain has been selling shit drugs since 2006 and now they will get the boot when compared to most AI/GI reps

Calculate your ratings over last two years
compare to your partners
Who gets the golden ticket?
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Notcynta?
Ur leaving our geography (living in territory), collective ratings, seniority ...& how much the JnJ likes you.
 




Consider this there is a freeze on ordering cars from GE/jnj fleet/now. I wonder why. Because Paul Revere says no new cars the layoffs will take care of it for me. Me Ford Fusion gots 96,000 miles on it time for a change to a Nissan, Subaru, or Chevy, wow have we fAlling.
 




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