Too funny. Now some are complaining what life is like in the "free market". The republican rubber hit the pot holed filed road they didnt want to do anything about.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49117.html
Too funny. Now some are complaining what life is like in the "free market". The republican rubber hit the pot holed filed road they didnt want to do anything about.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49117.html
Too funny. Now some are complaining what life is like in the "free market". The republican rubber hit the pot holed filed road they didnt want to do anything about.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49117.html
Nobody is bitching about some of the good points of the bill, such as preexisting conditions, the issue is whether or not the government can make me buy anything.
Why can't you understand that?
Why cant YOU understand the concept that you cant give everyone insurance with preexisting conditions without having the people who DONT have them pay into the risk pool by being required to buy insurance???
This concept is so basic to the argument that anyone who doesnt see this point should be ashamed that they could think they had the knowledge to make a public comment on it. If you dont understand the concept of risk pool, you dont understand the ACA.
Why cant YOU understand the concept that you cant give everyone insurance with preexisting conditions without having the people who DONT have them pay into the risk pool by being required to buy insurance???
This concept is so basic to the argument that anyone who doesnt see this point should be ashamed that they could think they had the knowledge to make a public comment on it. If you dont understand the concept of risk pool, you dont understand the ACA.
Yeah, we shouldn't let little things like individual liberty, freedom and personal choice come into consideration.
There are ways to deal with the problem of pre-existing conditions without totalitarian governmental action.
Why cant YOU understand the concept that you cant give everyone insurance with preexisting conditions without having the people who DONT have them pay into the risk pool by being required to buy insurance???
This concept is so basic to the argument that anyone who doesnt see this point should be ashamed that they could think they had the knowledge to make a public comment on it. If you dont understand the concept of risk pool, you dont understand the ACA.
There are. And that is tax the people who are getting a free ride from the system.. i.e. those who do not pay for health care, but know they will get it in the ER when they need it because it is mandated by both law and morality to treat people in medical need.
And this tax is basically the same think as a mandate to buy insurance.
Its not a great solution, thats for sure. A much better solution would be a public option, but the Republicans would have choked if that was an option.
You responded to me, that is my point, madam. Obama has so many giveaways in this which sound really really nice. Then you have to pay for it, which means you force people to buy something they may not want.
And Americans have voiced their concern with this time and time again and yet people like you don't have a problem trampling on liberty. So, I have to buy insurance at 27 say and I am healthy, to pay for a 400 pound obese diabetic who smokes and drinks and fucks anything that walks. What about my choice to not support that medical care?
That forced mandate is a tax any way you slice it.
Giveaways! Yayyy! Gimme gimme gimme!
There are. And that is tax the people who are getting a free ride from the system.. i.e. those who do not pay for health care, but know they will get it in the ER when they need it because it is mandated by both law and morality to treat people in medical need.
And this tax is basically the same think as a mandate to buy insurance.
Its not a great solution, thats for sure. A much better solution would be a public option, but the Republicans would have choked if that was an option.
Tax the people who are getting a free ride.... Hmmmm??? If they are getting a free ride now, it is very likely that they don't pay federal taxes like half of America. Which also means they won't pay for their insurance. Which furthermore means that the Dummycrats have just created is yet another way to redistribute wealth. The workers pay for the non-workers, the young pay for the old, the healthy pay for the sick. When you abondon individual liberty and personal accountability, chaos is all that you are left with.
Dummycrats?
Sounds like you have no freaking idea of what you are talking about except to have vague, hateful thoughts about anyone who doesnt have money to pay for decent health care to improve their lives.
You throw in terms like 'liberty' and 'personal accountability', yet you miss the point that health care isnt like buying a TV. When someone is on the table dying before your eyes, you dont wait for the debit card to clear before administering treatment, no matter how fat or lazy or old or dumb they are.
Dummycrats?
Sounds like you have no freaking idea of what you are talking about except to have vague, hateful thoughts about anyone who doesnt have money to pay for decent health care to improve their lives.
You throw in terms like 'liberty' and 'personal accountability', yet you miss the point that health care isnt like buying a TV. When someone is on the table dying before your eyes, you dont wait for the debit card to clear before administering treatment, no matter how fat or lazy or old or dumb they are.
So your point is that you like the good stuff in the bill but you dont want to be taxed/forced to pay for it? And you'd like to keep the good stuff (like the preexisting conditions), but ditch the bad stuff (the mechanism to pay for the good stuff).
Thats the kind of Republican thinking that has got us in this massive debt in the first place.
Maybe if they were made to be personally accountable, then the rest of us accountable people wouldn't be punished. When you reward bad behavior, you are sure to get more of it. That guy laying on the table dying, who can't afford health insurance, I bet he has a TV, Cell Phone, A computer, the internet, etc. But where are the priorities?
No I am saying that stuff is good until someone has to pay for it. Money doesn't grow on trees. These ideas sound great until the bill comes. This is why i don't buy stuff I don't need. A new Ferrari is nice, but I don't want to pay for it.
Don't lecture me on spending either. Democrats have done their fair share.
FAR MORE than their fair share!
...I do agree that people go to ER and it is covered anyways. These people chose not to buy insurance then and they sure as hell won't buy it now.
