remind me how people get fired in the pharmaceutical industry

[anonymous]

count it a great thing you were fired from an industry that is toxic.
relax.
you will find something better than this.
trust me.
anything is better than pharmaceutical or medical sales.

This old adage comes to mind:
It is not a sign of a well-adjusted individual to be well-adjusted to a dysfunctional system.

 

[anonymous]

This old adage comes to mind:
It is not a sign of a well-adjusted individual to be well-adjusted to a dysfunctional system.

good one.
John Trudell is my hero, and he said "don't trust anyone that isn't angry".

makes sense if you think about it.

those that are happy in a predatory world are reaping the benefits from the predatory slave system that we have.

I don't go around carrying that anger too much, as I prefer to keep my "pocket aces" to myself, so I do my best to share ideas with others in a positive way.

I do know that working for the major corporations I have been with for several years (Pfizer, Merck, Boston S.) were the worst years of my life because I was surrounded by sociopaths. The doctors and the management were not well in the soul. Now that I am retired, I can see my error, of just letting all of my energy go into an endeavor (making money) over actually living life and being a human BEING.

 

[anonymous]

good one.
John Trudell is my hero, and he said "don't trust anyone that isn't angry".

makes sense if you think about it.

those that are happy in a predatory world are reaping the benefits from the predatory slave system that we have.

I don't go around carrying that anger too much, as I prefer to keep my "pocket aces" to myself, so I do my best to share ideas with others in a positive way.

I do know that working for the major corporations I have been with for several years (Pfizer, Merck, Boston S.) were the worst years of my life because I was surrounded by sociopaths. The doctors and the management were not well in the soul. Now that I am retired, I can see my error, of just letting all of my energy go into an endeavor (making money) over actually living life and being a human BEING.

Yes. I sometimes see posts/profiles of former colleagues on LI (LI is kind of a joke IMO). Some years ago, after I left Pharma, admittedly I was envious that they were able to hang on and endure the nature of the job, bad management and company cultures, and layoffs to continue making their relatively high salaries. These days I don't feel the same. Probably most are now bound to the industry, entrapped with their golden handcuffs. There is a price to be paid for remaining in the industry over the years and that has been discussed in many posts on this board. Like you, I can look back on all those years with perspective now. I'm grateful that I'm no longer in it.

 

[anonymous]

Yes. I sometimes see posts/profiles of former colleagues on LI (LI is kind of a joke IMO). Some years ago, after I left Pharma, admittedly I was envious that they were able to hang on and endure the nature of the job, bad management and company cultures, and layoffs to continue making their relatively high salaries. These days I don't feel the same. Probably most are now bound to the industry, entrapped with their golden handcuffs. There is a price to be paid for remaining in the industry over the years and that has been discussed in many posts on this board. Like you, I can look back on all those years with perspective now. I'm grateful that I'm no longer in it.

And the working conditions today are probably 10X worse than we can even imagine.

Working in the corporate world is akin to slavery at the worst state.

We got tricked by the companies, to work for them, at low wages (yes, for the work they want us to do, we are still underpaid when you consider the trillions made in the healthcare industry).

They laugh at us for the most part, managing their companies for so little, while they benefit from the insane profit, for products that do more harm (see side effects) than good for the public.

No need for me to go on and on, but I will leave you all with one thought:

The purpose of life is not to work for a major corporation. Your purpose should be to live and enjoy what was freely given from nature. Or let it be what you want it to be.

Worrying about a field ride or annual evaluation is for fools.

 

[anonymous]

Was in Pharma for 14 years. Every rep that I saw get fired, actually "fired" themselves.
It starts small, and then snowballs to termination.
The beginning that I witnessed most often was getting behind on administrative deadlines. (Expense reports, Pre-Call plans, etc)
Basically, missing deadlines is the beginning of the end.

 

[anonymous]

Screw it .

 

[anonymous]

Critical thinkers need not apply.

The sales model is to hire college graduates and Enterprise car rental people in theirs 20s or early 30s (by the way, I have more respect for Enterprise car rental employees than any pharmaceutical sales rep).

Some and think about that.

 

[anonymous]

Fired.

for asking a doctor for his opinion on pharmacy school. Happy to get out