Please get the layoff done with ASAP!

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Anonymous said:
We are the walking dead.
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With the launches coming, it doesn't make sense for them to dessimate field sales. I really think it won't be a big layoff but more of a reorg of territories where some displaced reps fall through the cracks. Either way, good luck to everyone. It may be painful but sometimes, change is for the best. Keep you head up.
 












Don't be one of the cattle, use ur brain and think. Potential drug launches do not equate to job security. If that's what your manager told you he/she just trying to motivate you and spin some positivity untiil this uncertianty is over. Your manager doesn't even know if he/she's job is secure!
 




Back on 08/26/09 a WARN notice was filed with the Connecticut Labor Dept. I do not know the exact date of the September 09 lay off and unfortunately the last threads listed on CP only date back to 2011. Notifications were communicated via voicemail which will be decommissioned on July 1. The CT labor department website, as of today, did not include a WARN notice. This information can be verified on the CT Labor Department website. Perhaps the website should now be saved under "favorites". How ironic.
 








Anonymous said:
I thought a WARN notice was only necessary for a layoff of 500 or more. Given our reduced headcount over the years I do not foresee a cut that deep.
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A covered employer must give notice if there is to be a mass layoff which does not result from a plant closing, but which will result in an employment loss at the employment site during any 30-day period for 500 or more employees, or for 50-499 employees if they make up at least 33% of the employer's active workforce.
 












Anonymous said:
It serves no purpose to look for WARN notices. Companies always have the option of paying 60 days wages en lieu of the notice.
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And we don't file the WARN notice until after the 60 day WARN period. When we announced RIF in August 2009 for 9/31 end date, WARN wAs t posted until November. It was submitted 10/1. So, no early warning system there.
 




Anonymous said:
And we don't file the WARN notice until after the 60 day WARN period. When we announced RIF in August 2009 for 9/31 end date, WARN wAs t posted until November. It was submitted 10/1. So, no early warning system there.
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It was NOT submitted on 10/01/09. Check out the Connecticut Department of Labor Warn notices - monthly warn notices August 2009. The date received is 08/26/09 and the effective date is 10/31/09. We were told to sit by our phones in September. Take a look at it in black and white on a government web site for yourself.

http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/progsupt/bussrvce/warnreports/2009 Warn Reports/warnreports2009-8.htm
 




Anonymous said:
It was NOT submitted on 10/01/09. Check out the Connecticut Department of Labor Warn notices - monthly warn notices August 2009. The date received is 08/26/09 and the effective date is 10/31/09. We were told to sit by our phones in September. Take a look at it in black and white on a government web site for yourself.

http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/progsupt/bussrvce/warnreports/2009 Warn Reports/warnreports2009-8.htm
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Yes, letter written 8/26 with 10/1 effective date, but not posted until November after notification period and terminations final.

Regardless: min field restructuring, if at all, and don't expect to find a red herring before any announcements.
 




Anonymous said:
Yes, letter written 8/26 with 10/1 effective date, but not posted until November after notification period and terminations final.

Regardless: min field restructuring, if at all, and don't expect to find a red herring before any announcements.
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Letter was RECEIVED on 8/26 - read it! The website posts the received notices within days.
 












I know this from hard earned experience at another Pharma company. Start looking for a job now! When the layoffs occur the recruiters are flooded with candidates. And just because you may have high sales results you are not protected. It seems that when they layoff people based on sales results that it is easily contested in court. Instead they layoff anyone with less than two years and just draw new boundaries and whoever lives closest to the "business epicenter" keeps their job. The others are offered a severance and will have to sign a document to hold the company harmless.

The other thing I can tell you is that you may have to lower your expectations for a replacement job. Not many companies outside of Pharma appreciate what you do and salaries are lower.

Don't get caught surprised. Call a recruiter now.
 




Anonymous said:
It was NOT submitted on 10/01/09. Check out the Connecticut Department of Labor Warn notices - monthly warn notices August 2009. The date received is 08/26/09 and the effective date is 10/31/09. We were told to sit by our phones in September. Take a look at it in black and white on a government web site for yourself.

http://www.ctdol.state.ct.us/progsupt/bussrvce/warnreports/2009 Warn Reports/warnreports2009-8.htm
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We waited by our phones on 8/25, a Tuesday. Bastards told us on a Friday, then had to wait the whole weekend.
 




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