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It seems to be about 25% cut, a few actual territory changes, have yet to hear of anyone being kept in current PC role.....and that EPBU opportunity seems to be good through Q1 2012...after that...more cuts...industry is on the decline, unless you're in a real Specialty position (like Oncology). Logically speaking, why have an EPBU when providers can request samples, co-pay cards (with their 2% redemption rate), and medical inquires, etc. all with the push of a button on-line? Furthermore, why have any PC reps at all, access is a joke, generics will be written first line 99% of the time, and those that actually still accept samples and co-pay cards can use the website to receive them. Everyone knows that samples are hardly used to start new pts. on a med, they are given out to pts. who for whatever reason cannot afford their scripts (or more likely to friends and family). PC docs are incentivized to write generic by the Hospital Group that "owns" them, if that doesn't work than it's on to a specialist (and possibly a branded script!!!!!) I’m safe but have literally put out 10 resumes waiting to hear from my manager today….none in pharma…..
 


















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It seems to be about 25% cut, a few actual territory changes, have yet to hear of anyone being kept in current PC role.....and that EPBU opportunity seems to be good through Q1 2012...after that...more cuts...industry is on the decline, unless you're in a real Specialty position (like Oncology). Logically speaking, why have an EPBU when providers can request samples, co-pay cards (with their 2% redemption rate), and medical inquires, etc. all with the push of a button on-line? Furthermore, why have any PC reps at all, access is a joke, generics will be written first line 99% of the time, and those that actually still accept samples and co-pay cards can use the website to receive them. Everyone knows that samples are hardly used to start new pts. on a med, they are given out to pts. who for whatever reason cannot afford their scripts (or more likely to friends and family). PC docs are incentivized to write generic by the Hospital Group that "owns" them, if that doesn't work than it's on to a specialist (and possibly a branded script!!!!!) I’m safe but have literally put out 10 resumes waiting to hear from my manager today….none in pharma…..
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I don't know about the rest of the country but I think 25 % is low. In my area nearly everyone was let go.
 












East Coast rep and got cut...what a great day, good thing I got up extra early for the news...not that I could sleep after that extremely "transparent" cc last night...oh well....UPS here I come....roughly same pay, benies...drive around and drop off packages all day..just like contract PC pharma sales except I'll have a company vehicle (granted wouldn't want to take a date out in it), won't have to play dress up in 100 degree heat, no clown manager breathing down my neck in offices and stinking up my car two days a month...but by far the best difference is no more catering to offices who could care less about you and your products, just what's for breakfast or lunch or what extra orders they can place for their family's dinner that night...God it's so degrading sitting in a break room all by yourself, watching fatty after fatty gobble up their food without the slightest acknowledgment of your existence(really, who details office staff w/absolutely no medical knowledge or influence on the provider...and than of course getting 90 seconds with the provider...but as long as you get signature you're a superstar...thankful I'm young enough to get out now...wow that felt good!!!!!!!
 






Rep in east coast territory with a great reputation (on both sides, especially with Pfizer), EE on my annual review, double digit spot awards........drum role please....CUT!!!
 
























Yardley Insider here: IN 2 WEEKS, AT LEAST 1/2 OF THE REMAINING PFIZER/P4 REPS WILL BE LAID OFF. Reps will only be retained in high-volume Lipitor territories. If you have a low volume territory, plan on being laid off. If there are 3 Publicis reps in your territory, plan on 2 of you being laid off.

The above post was on another thread. Seems pretty close. Was in a medium size city. 4 of us were cut to 2 of us a couple of months ago. Phone call came and only one of us covering the territory. Not me.
 






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