Ofirmev co-promotion
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Former OSS rep here, let go in the last wave! Haters go ahead and call "troll", when I actually am just amusing myself
. The point that most are missing is that we all are/were former successful (to varying degrees) sales people. That being said, HSS, OSS, former PC - doesn't matter - what has happened to both MNK and Cadence, has been a SERIES of horrible decisions made by the talking heads. The truth in this is that they are considering going back to another co-promote (i.e. spending more $$$ to train yet another salesforce) just to make up for the ridiculous $ increase made in the first place! Ofirmev is an incredible product - just not as incredible to price it at the premium that the talking heads decided!
Stop blaming any salesforce and put the blame where it belongs...
. The point that most are missing is that we all are/were former successful (to varying degrees) sales people. That being said, HSS, OSS, former PC - doesn't matter - what has happened to both MNK and Cadence, has been a SERIES of horrible decisions made by the talking heads. The truth in this is that they are considering going back to another co-promote (i.e. spending more $$$ to train yet another salesforce) just to make up for the ridiculous $ increase made in the first place! Ofirmev is an incredible product - just not as incredible to price it at the premium that the talking heads decided!Stop blaming any salesforce and put the blame where it belongs...
Former OSS rep here, let go in the last wave! Haters go ahead and call "troll", when I actually am just amusing myself
Stop blaming any salesforce and put the blame where it belongs...
Listen, no one is certainly blaming an OSS rep. But what we are tired of is when OSS reps are leaving messages like "you're all doomed" "the end is near". "You're idiots and can't find a job and just stay there". Believe it or not, we all know this company is complete trash and none of us have an intention of staying here. We will take an appropriate job option when it presents itself. We are not going to quit just to quit out of emotion.
I hear you. However there are plenty of HSS reps that think every OSS rep was a primary care rep with no experience and couldn't add value to the team. Which wasn't the case.
There were plenty of HSS reps on here laughing when people were laid off. Now it's the OSS reps turn to laugh, as management sees that Their precious sales force isn't getting the job done, and they are wasting more money on co-promoting the drug.
Those high and might HSS reps aren't so high and mighty, are they?
That's the point, stupid. You're hoping the HSS' are getting let go like you losers, but it's not happening. No one is really thrilled to be here, but they're not letting us go. Now get back to Enterprise, someone needs a Prius.
Keep telling yourself that your not getting let go. Ofirmev isn't selling, they are bringing in another sales force to "help" you sell it. When they realize that plan isn't going to work who do you think is going to get cut? OSS got cut because they were brought in to sell Xartemis and it was a dog.
Now go pick up panera, you overpaid gopher.
Your opinion of HSS reps is unfair and unjustified when in reality you are referring to such a very small minority of asses. The fact is there are really hard working people here from the beginning of launch that care and have families to support. You are taking this to a whole new level when you make comments like "now it is our turn to laugh." I can tell you for a fact, most of us weren't laughing. Those are the type of comments I find to be extremely sick and very immature. Who cares what a few asses say on this site? Do you really think the majority feel that way? This is a pathetic company and believe me, for those of us that are still working here, we suffer every single day and I felt extremely bad for the people that were let go. No one deserves that.
In terms of the co-promotion, it isn't what you think it is. They won't be going to all of our accounts or anything like that but it is too boring and long of a story to describe this.mmyes, it's dumb but it won't affect the HSS day to day activities at all. You're are correct that this company is a sinking ship and the stock is considered "over-sold," but we have to live with it for now. I don't think you should be throwing stones at all because I guarantee you that the type of jerks you are describing are probably 2% of the sales force population. Don't worry, as another message earlier alluded to, there are three opportunities coming up where each company has been heavily targeting many of us. Two of the three are supposed to happen first quarter of next year. I promise you that you will see a very large percentage of managers and reps resigning all at the same time. This will be a devastating blow to the company to lose so many. But what do they expect? You treat people like crap and expect otherwise? No way.
It's "you're" you stupid fuck. Are you the OSS with huge base salary? Bwahahaha!!
It's a sad sad day when all you have to comment on is someone spelling. But then again, I'd expect nothing less from a 45%er
You're right on with your comments. I think this company sucks and what they did to those reps after just making them purchase cars is sickening. Like you, I hate it here and everything this company stands for. The stock price is indicative of the poor leadership we have in place. They should put that on their resumes. What can on do? I have to keep the job until I find something better. There is not a doubt in my mind that every single rep has feelers out and are looking for other opportunities. This also includes the ABM's and RBD's. I can't think of one person that I know that works here that is happy here. Not a single person. It is all a charade and everyone is going through the motions until they can get out. This is a bad company. No one likes working for a bad company. So I'm not sure why there are people that would be happy about someone else's unfortunate circumstances. I feel bad for everyone that Mallinckrodt negatively affected. The icing on the cake on top of everything else is that the bonuses are super low and no me is making any decent money here anymore. So why would anyone want to stay here? I can't think of a single reason why anyone would stay here other than waiting for a different job opportunity with someone else. People like MT and MM make me ill.
you people are tarded plain and simple. Im a 36%er as opposed to the ass who loves to write about 45%ers. What does that even mean. We are in pharma and we get paid great money to do a job. Sales forces come and go and talent is not always the deciding factor to why. If you want control become a corporate puppet and be a dsm or rsd. Sorry i mean leader.
There is no shame in being let go or staying. Why do you really care. Every pharma job is the same in the long run. Clearly the HSS job from Cadence to becoming mnk is evidence of that.
Your job is not a family, a friend or a lover. get over yourselves. If you still have a job shut up as you sound super stupid and if you dont I am sorry to hear it.
Just another brick in the wall. No swans here just pharma sales reps
There is no shame in being let go or staying. Why do you really care. Every pharma job is the same in the long run. Clearly the HSS job from Cadence to becoming mnk is evidence of that.
Your job is not a family, a friend or a lover. get over yourselves. If you still have a job shut up as you sound super stupid and if you dont I am sorry to hear it.
Just another brick in the wall. No swans here just pharma sales reps
Omg. You need to titrate down on the meds girl. You are freakin. If anyone has a major problem, it is clearly you. Why do we really care if someone is let go? Hey moron, we are supporting our families. Not to mention a job takes a big percentage of your life, so you'd better at least find it tolerable or that is a whole lotta hell. Your idiotic comments are hard to chew. You understand now Moron?
Still the fact remains that there will be co promotion which directly implies substandard results by HSS reps. As to whether there will be layoffs that's another story but what company wants to pay pharma reps that aren't producing? No organization can be profitable that way.
Everyone just calm the fuck down. Your reps not rocket scientist.
Don't worry about anything!! Just do dinner programs !!! That's all they care about!!
"Substandard results by HSS reps"??????? Please give us all a break you OSS rep that has been let go and now disgruntled. I can safety say the negative performance of this drug had nothing to do with the pharmaceutical reps and everything to do with the price increase and all the other poor decisions the current unskilled and uneducated management leaders have made. New are so sick of your stupid messages that wish us all to be laid off because you were. Get over yourself and move on. You are truly sick in the head. Future companies are not going to look at an individual rep and say wow OFIRMEV did awful and equate that to the rep. If anything, this will greatly help on all interviews. When one of the often questions asked will be "why are you looking to leave?" Ummmm duhhhh.
So please do us all a favor a F&ck off. You're an idiot who only wishes I'll will on others because you got laid off and you are pissed. So piss off.
No big deal, most of the names I put into programs are fake.
Some of the docs who like to go out a lot I just don't put them in the system.
I mean we all know we all have go to people for programs, and 6 new programs not including webinar is too much.
I'm already programed out from this past year.