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Anonymous said:
Has anyone received an offer yet? Can you describe salary range? Car reimbursement? Stock Options? Health Plan Coverage? Cell phone allowance or company phone?
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75-85k, no car, standard bene's to below average. Management is a mess, Savient is a mess and had no intention to desperately be left in the wind with having to try and put together a fly by night salesforce temporarily and are failing miserably already with the RBD's they hired. If you look closely you will see the stench of loser and very short term job with tremendous downside and risky orphan drug that is over priced, small orphan market as litch after gold standard train wrecks, no contracted medicare or private insurance will ever pick this up, if they do it will be 10% max and still thousands of dollars out of the patients check book, RHE will not take the bait on this..... you were warned.
 






Okay seriously that cannot be the salary range that is not what was discussed through Leaders Inc. and definatley not what the hiring managers had said. So I call BS on the above post you sound pretty bitter like you actually didnt get a face to face interview.
 






Anonymous said:
Okay seriously that cannot be the salary range that is not what was discussed through Leaders Inc. and definatley not what the hiring managers had said. So I call BS on the above post you sound pretty bitter like you actually didnt get a face to face interview.
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These are the numbers, take it or leave it. I left it. This a roll of the dice with very little reward or benefit.....Savient did a piss pour job to trying to make it out to something it was never about.
 






Anonymous said:
75-85k, no car, standard bene's to below average. Management is a mess, Savient is a mess and had no intention to desperately be left in the wind with having to try and put together a fly by night salesforce temporarily and are failing miserably already with the RBD's they hired. If you look closely you will see the stench of loser and very short term job with tremendous downside and risky orphan drug that is over priced, small orphan market as litch after gold standard train wrecks, no contracted medicare or private insurance will ever pick this up, if they do it will be 10% max and still thousands of dollars out of the patients check book, RHE will not take the bait on this..... you were warned.
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Why would someone even spend 2 minutes of effort coming on to cafepharma and posting this fiction?
 






Anonymous said:
Okay seriously that cannot be the salary range that is not what was discussed through Leaders Inc. and definatley not what the hiring managers had said. So I call BS on the above post you sound pretty bitter like you actually didnt get a face to face interview.
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This info all came with my offer letter. leaders inc. has changed their tune all over the map. They came after me in Sept and said to wait it out, got in the process a few weeks back, 2 face to face in one week- not impressed and felt like I was more experienced than the hiring manager which is never a good sign.

Received contingent offer letter and declined job after talking to my area RHU and hospitals including local and regional medicare offices, will be a non covered product, medical necessity letter will be denied on ALL orders, there are no existing contracts and Savient has no plans to contract out coverage or secure a medicare contract for a NON ACR approved drug and no ACR endorsement. If the doctor is even willing to go that extra mile and be burdened with paper work and submission to Medicare, 80% of the patient demo, which is highly doubtful, there are maybe 1 maximum 2 patients per office that are eligible and medically logical for Krystx therapy, but and that is a big BUT even with these most debilitated gout patients the actual rate of shipment and contract for the product will be below the 1% range.

Do your do diligence on this, for many of us who have exp. with buy and bill and have launched RHU tests and products-drugs before-gaining info and reality of this product and ideology and business strategy are easy to come by, and all look like massive failure. Savient had no intention or interest in launching this product with its own make shift salesforce, this was not the plan and was the last possible choice only after the real companies and true leaders in this landscape said NO to this product, Savient had to scramble and put together a temp plan and solution. I have heard and read the 60-90 day plan on this in house salesforce and it is a huge gamble.

Savient is more than prepared to pull back the sales efforts with a failed launch and will have a knee jerk panic reaction when they see that NO RHEU'S order the product and the problems with private insurance payers and medicare is very real, nearing an impossible obstacle as the cost is ridiculous and the target audience was overshot and embellished to keep this "in play" with the street, smoke and mirrors will eventually be clear....... They thought they were being creative by designing a REMS program and patient network to promote via the 50 person salesforce that will be spread thin covering 2-3 states as a geography and no insurance coverage or reimbursement contracts are in place nor are they in the works. The patient will have to submit a medical necessity letter to their insurer, federal and private in hopes that the appeal process will pick it up, this is 99% unlikely and they will be stuck with a HUGE BILL and the domino effect will spread back to the clinics and end of story.... you can try to debate this until you are blue in the face, but the facts are the facts. Overpriced, fly by night effort, no stability, no pipeline, no leadership, temp short term waste of time and will be a relationship killer for a tenured rep as you are going to be forced to burn bridges with docs, you better be willing to sacrifice your relationships with the RHU to get a script, or you will not only be fired-quickly, but will also build a bad rep among clinicians which is career suicide.
 






Anonymous said:
75-85k, no car, standard bene's to below average. Management is a mess, Savient is a mess and had no intention to desperately be left in the wind with having to try and put together a fly by night salesforce temporarily and are failing miserably already with the RBD's they hired. If you look closely you will see the stench of loser and very short term job with tremendous downside and risky orphan drug that is over priced, small orphan market as litch after gold standard train wrecks, no contracted medicare or private insurance will ever pick this up, if they do it will be 10% max and still thousands of dollars out of the patients check book, RHE will not take the bait on this..... you were warned.
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Concur, exactly what I was told as well. Backwards job and temporary at best, if you have to take something than take it, but continue to look as this will be short lived.
 






Anonymous said:
This info all came with my offer letter. leaders inc. has changed their tune all over the map. They came after me in Sept and said to wait it out, got in the process a few weeks back, 2 face to face in one week- not impressed and felt like I was more experienced than the hiring manager which is never a good sign.

Received contingent offer letter and declined job after talking to my area RHU and hospitals including local and regional medicare offices, will be a non covered product, medical necessity letter will be denied on ALL orders, there are no existing contracts and Savient has no plans to contract out coverage or secure a medicare contract for a NON ACR approved drug and no ACR endorsement. If the doctor is even willing to go that extra mile and be burdened with paper work and submission to Medicare, 80% of the patient demo, which is highly doubtful, there are maybe 1 maximum 2 patients per office that are eligible and medically logical for Krystx therapy, but and that is a big BUT even with these most debilitated gout patients the actual rate of shipment and contract for the product will be below the 1% range.

Do your do diligence on this, for many of us who have exp. with buy and bill and have launched RHU tests and products-drugs before-gaining info and reality of this product and ideology and business strategy are easy to come by, and all look like massive failure. Savient had no intention or interest in launching this product with its own make shift salesforce, this was not the plan and was the last possible choice only after the real companies and true leaders in this landscape said NO to this product, Savient had to scramble and put together a temp plan and solution. I have heard and read the 60-90 day plan on this in house salesforce and it is a huge gamble.

Savient is more than prepared to pull back the sales efforts with a failed launch and will have a knee jerk panic reaction when they see that NO RHEU'S order the product and the problems with private insurance payers and medicare is very real, nearing an impossible obstacle as the cost is ridiculous and the target audience was overshot and embellished to keep this "in play" with the street, smoke and mirrors will eventually be clear....... They thought they were being creative by designing a REMS program and patient network to promote via the 50 person salesforce that will be spread thin covering 2-3 states as a geography and no insurance coverage or reimbursement contracts are in place nor are they in the works. The patient will have to submit a medical necessity letter to their insurer, federal and private in hopes that the appeal process will pick it up, this is 99% unlikely and they will be stuck with a HUGE BILL and the domino effect will spread back to the clinics and end of story.... you can try to debate this until you are blue in the face, but the facts are the facts. Overpriced, fly by night effort, no stability, no pipeline, no leadership, temp short term waste of time and will be a relationship killer for a tenured rep as you are going to be forced to burn bridges with docs, you better be willing to sacrifice your relationships with the RHU to get a script, or you will not only be fired-quickly, but will also build a bad rep among clinicians which is career suicide.
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Kudos, well said and spot on.
 


















I was told the max base offer is 130K. this came from a source who is pretty reliable. I was also told the target bonus is 40K. Not sure about the car or any of the other stuff.
 


















Anonymous said:
x2. Same offer I saw.
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75K
no car, offers out, will lose money on gas with prices as high as it is now.
was told to not get to comfortable and to read between the lines as far as stability of product and market. RBD's are green and trying to get reps to take a risk based off inconsistent data and promises. I stayed clear but my unemployed counterpart took the offer after one interview. This is not a job for money or stability but to get on a temp. payroll as you secure real work with a viable product. Sorry, but this is the truth. I know this is what you don't want to hear but you need to get in touch with reality and stop romanticizing this job into something it is very far from.
 






Anonymous said:
75K
no car, offers out, will lose money on gas with prices as high as it is now.
was told to not get to comfortable and to read between the lines as far as stability of product and market. RBD's are green and trying to get reps to take a risk based off inconsistent data and promises. I stayed clear but my unemployed counterpart took the offer after one interview. This is not a job for money or stability but to get on a temp. payroll as you secure real work with a viable product. Sorry, but this is the truth. I know this is what you don't want to hear but you need to get in touch with reality and stop romanticizing this job into something it is very far from.
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Not true... If this is what you were told, someone is trying to take advantage of you. Heads up people...they are offering a lot more then this person got..hold out for more because they are paying it. This guy must be a loser.
 






Anonymous said:
75K
no car, offers out, will lose money on gas with prices as high as it is now.
was told to not get to comfortable and to read between the lines as far as stability of product and market. RBD's are green and trying to get reps to take a risk based off inconsistent data and promises. I stayed clear but my unemployed counterpart took the offer after one interview. This is not a job for money or stability but to get on a temp. payroll as you secure real work with a viable product. Sorry, but this is the truth. I know this is what you don't want to hear but you need to get in touch with reality and stop romanticizing this job into something it is very far from.
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75k guy, besides being pretty practically illiterate, you are hilarious!
 


















Anonymous said:
Who is the RBD up in Northeast? Is anyone getting offers up in that area?
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I was emailed a few times regarding scheduling an interview for the NE area, then Leaders inc vanished and will not return calls? I have launched many Rheum and infusion products, background is perfect match. I have read many posts on here regarding not hearing anything from the recruiters after initial contact, seems weird and of course unprofessional and frustrating. I have a few friends in the Great lakes area as well who I talk with from our current company who also were contacted for Savient and then dropped in the same way. No communication no return follow calls in their area either. It is certainly not that we don't have the experience or qualifications, something is not kosher about this process. Trust I am not sour grapes, I have a great job and w2 mid 100's as a top 10 rep, but many of us also expect to be treated as the professionals that we are and represent, don't think that is asking to much......
 












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