Novartis looking to buy ROCHE!

[Anonymous]

Hey, I have high up friends at Switzerland congress who tell me Novartis is working to buy us??? Whats the word?? Trueshit!

 

[Anonymous]

this is the truth

 

[Anonymous]

I have no idea if it is a rumor or fact. But as a former Novartis rep, be afraid be very afraid. PRESSURE- UP.
Job Security-DOWN

 

[Anonymous]

Nobody can buy Roche untill the Hoffman and Orie families agree to sell their stock period.

 

[Anonymous]

Hey, I have high up friends at Switzerland congress who tell me Novartis is working to buy us??? Whats the word?? Trueshit!

Really this again, I have heard this "rumor" for years. Also Switzerland does not have a congress it is a parliamentary system. So who do you know in the Council of States or National Council? I am sure they do not read this stupid blog.

 

[Anonymous]

Troll. Idiots.

 

[Anonymous]

Hey, I have high up friends at Switzerland congress who tell me Novartis is working to buy us??? Whats the word?? Trueshit!

Same rumor for 6-7 years. Roche is larger., more cash, and at least 51% of the voting shares belong to a single family that is contractually obligated to not sell their shares (subject to periodic renewals). Are you new to the company? or Legacy Genentech? How could you not know this?

 

[Anonymous]

It's true, they're moving everyone back to NJ (hope they are kinder than the CA hosts!).

 

[Anonymous]

If people did their homework...Novartis actually owns about 32% of Roche......Always thought Roche would never buy GNE.....Dont think that Novartis wont pull the trigger sometime in the future.

 

[Anonymous]

If people did their homework...Novartis actually owns about 32% of Roche......Always thought Roche would never buy GNE.....Dont think that Novartis wont pull the trigger sometime in the future.

Maybe you should do YOUR homework. Roche technically owned 100% of Genentech stock a little more than a decade ago. Next, Roche sold 51% of the stock, but ALWAYS had the option to repurchase those shares. The bottomline, is that rRoche could literally do whatever they wanted to do with Genentech for about 25 years.

On the otherhand, Novartis own 32% of Roche voting stock (only 3% of all outstanding shares), while members of the Roche "founding family" own more than 50%. This family is contractually obligated to each other to not sell their shares. It is literally impossible for Novartis to purchase ROCHE, legally impossible. Roche's market cap is 197 billion dollars; Novartis would have to come up with 190 billion dollars, in order to but 100% of the outstanding shares; and that assumes no premium, and that the stock prices remains the same as is today (neither likely to happend).

If you were surprised that Roche bought Genentech, you should not have been. Roche literally financed Genentech, and could always consume them at will, legally. Which is exactly what they did. Remember, Genentech was forced to accept the purchase, they did not come willingly. Hey, maybe you just need to go to business school and you will understand.

 

[Anonymous]

Maybe you should do YOUR homework. Roche technically owned 100% of Genentech stock a little more than a decade ago. Next, Roche sold 51% of the stock, but ALWAYS had the option to repurchase those shares. The bottomline, is that rRoche could literally do whatever they wanted to do with Genentech for about 25 years.

On the otherhand, Novartis own 32% of Roche voting stock (only 3% of all outstanding shares), while members of the Roche "founding family" own more than 50%. This family is contractually obligated to each other to not sell their shares. It is literally impossible for Novartis to purchase ROCHE, legally impossible. Roche's market cap is 197 billion dollars; Novartis would have to come up with 190 billion dollars, in order to but 100% of the outstanding shares; and that assumes no premium, and that the stock prices remains the same as is today (neither likely to happend).

If you were surprised that Roche bought Genentech, you should not have been. Roche literally financed Genentech, and could always consume them at will, legally. Which is exactly what they did. Remember, Genentech was forced to accept the purchase, they did not come willingly. Hey, maybe you just need to go to business school and you will understand.

Hey business smartie, Novartis would not have to purchase 100% to gain ownership. They can purchase an additional 19% of voting shares to obtain control of the company and this is a FACT! You think you know the deal but you are sadly mistaken!!

 

[Anonymous]

Hey business smartie, Novartis would not have to purchase 100% to gain ownership. They can purchase an additional 19% of voting shares to obtain control of the company and this is a FACT! You think you know the deal but you are sadly mistaken!!

Only if the Hoffman and Orie family agree to sell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[Anonymous]

Hey business smartie, Novartis would not have to purchase 100% to gain ownership. They can purchase an additional 19% of voting shares to obtain control of the company and this is a FACT! You think you know the deal but you are sadly mistaken!!

Yes, that is exactly the point that I am making to you! They wouldn't have to by 19%, they would have to buy 20%, in order to bring their overall share of voting shares to 51%. This would give them control, but not ownership. Ownership would mean that they OWN ALL outstanding shares, hence the 190 billion+. An example is that Roche has had control over Genentech for decades, however, they didnt actually OWN Genentech until they purchased all of the stock, and absorbed it.

The bottomline again, is that it is physically, and legally IMPOSSIBLE for Nofartis to purchase the 20% of voting shares that they need. Even if they purchased every single share not owned by "the Family", and I mean EVERY share, they would still only have 49% of the voting shares, with the family owning 51% as a block. You see, even having 49% of these few shares, is the same as having only 1%, since "the family" acts as a block.

So yes, stop the rekindling of rumors that have been going on for 10 years. There has not been an attempt, by Novartis to buy Roche, since 2004. There is not even a single business article, suggesting that this is even a possibility (do a google search and please refer us to a link for a source), yet it is rumored on cafepharma. Not only is the purchase impossible, the cf rumor is totally bizarre and baseless; it would also be far too expensive (190 billion, plus a premium on stock price). In fact, below is a direct quote from a reuters article in January 2013:

"The rise in Roche's valuation has put the group out of reach of Novartis as a takeover target but the holding has proved to have been a rewarding investment, with the voting bearer shares held by Novartis currently worth some $12 billion."

Now put that in your pipe and smoke it! Now just be quiet, calm down, and go sell something. No company can afford to buy roche, none!

 

[Anonymous]

Yes, that is exactly the point that I am making to you! They wouldn't have to by 19%, they would have to buy 20%, in order to bring their overall share of voting shares to 51%. This would give them control, but not ownership. Ownership would mean that they OWN ALL outstanding shares, hence the 190 billion+. An example is that Roche has had control over Genentech for decades, however, they didnt actually OWN Genentech until they purchased all of the stock, and absorbed it.

The bottomline again, is that it is physically, and legally IMPOSSIBLE for Nofartis to purchase the 20% of voting shares that they need. Even if they purchased every single share not owned by "the Family", and I mean EVERY share, they would still only have 49% of the voting shares, with the family owning 51% as a block. You see, even having 49% of these few shares, is the same as having only 1%, since "the family" acts as a block.

So yes, stop the rekindling of rumors that have been going on for 10 years. There has not been an attempt, by Novartis to buy Roche, since 2004. There is not even a single business article, suggesting that this is even a possibility (do a google search and please refer us to a link for a source), yet it is rumored on cafepharma. Not only is the purchase impossible, the cf rumor is totally bizarre and baseless; it would also be far too expensive (190 billion, plus a premium on stock price). In fact, below is a direct quote from a reuters article in January 2013:

"The rise in Roche's valuation has put the group out of reach of Novartis as a takeover target but the holding has proved to have been a rewarding investment, with the voting bearer shares held by Novartis currently worth some $12 billion."

Now put that in your pipe and smoke it! Now just be quiet, calm down, and go sell something. No company can afford to buy roche, none!

Yeah!!! Put it to rest is right great job in explaining it!

 

[Anonymous]

I work for NVS and we are certainly buying Roche. Not this year though - 2016 most likely.

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah!!! Put it to rest is right great job in explaining it!

Anything is possible. Posters and minions are the last to know. Give it a rest and try to focus on keeping yourself marketable . FYI to the folks who backstab current and former colleagues-that will come back on you when you're looking for a job. FYI to the driving for dollars old guard-noone will consider you marketable if you are happily running up dollars driving 6 hours a day with no key accounts in a major city. Be the best you can be professionally and as a person, thus control what you can control. You certainly have no control over who owns, runs or manages you on a day to day basis in any given company.

 

[Anonymous]

I work for NVS and we are certainly buying Roche. Not this year though - 2016 most likely.

Yeah, We're gonna buy Roche, then Roche will buy us! Then Pfizer will buy Roche, which purchased Novartis, who previously purchased Roche.

 

[Anonymous]

They will not be able to afford us..we actually launched more drugs in three years than novartis has in 10 years....our stock will be at google prices soon.

 

[Anonymous]

They will not be able to afford us..we actually launched more drugs in three years than novartis has in 10 years....our stock will be at google prices soon.

and whats to say the owners dont do like the owners of amylin just did... take the opportunity of a big cash buyout and let roche go?

 

[Anonymous]

and whats to say the owners dont do like the owners of amylin just did... take the opportunity of a big cash buyout and let roche go?

Right because they really need the money and they can invest it all elsewhere and make a better return....especially after the company has been in the two families hands for over a hundred years.

My God people, shut up.