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Anonymous said:
Seriously? Try finding better use of your time.
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I know it was a long post but I had nothing better to do this morning while I waited for your mom to put her prosthetic leg on so that she could limp out of my house after a long night of anal. Ah, Friday nights are fun with her. Saturdays, not so much.
 


















Anonymous said:
touché...
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More like Douche' Truth is while this tool pulls together all his or her thoughts to put into this long winded message, they do it behind the comfort of there home computer rather than have a dialogue with people who can actually hear the fields concerns.

So when you are done with whoevers mom go back to your contribution of silence and ass kissing those in the room who you could actually talk it out with.
 






Anonymous said:
More like Douche' Truth is while this tool pulls together all his or her thoughts to put into this long winded message, they do it behind the comfort of there home computer rather than have a dialogue with people who can actually hear the fields concerns.

So when you are done with whoevers mom go back to your contribution of silence and ass kissing those in the room who you could actually talk it out with.
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Outsider to the argument here. But I have to say, if you believe that your statement of "have a dialogue with people who can actually hear the fields concerns" isn't a pipe dream, then your head is in the sand.

You should know that if you were to verbalize the legitimate gripes of the salesforce to one of the people sitting on one of the stupid couches onstage in Phoenix, it would be career suicide.

Due to your reaction of the person's long but legitimate post, I can only guess that you were one of the few in support of the asinine decision making that has taken place with this company in the past couple of years. Why don't you go get a job at Delta Point? You would fit right in.
 






Anonymous said:
Outsider to the argument here. But I have to say, if you believe that your statement of "have a dialogue with people who can actually hear the fields concerns" isn't a pipe dream, then your head is in the sand.

You should know that if you were to verbalize the legitimate gripes of the salesforce to one of the people sitting on one of the stupid couches onstage in Phoenix, it would be career suicide.
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Self manifested paranoia. This is NOT the old Shire. Victor can't get you any longer.
 












Anonymous said:
I believe Dave is genuine and has the best interest of the sales force at heart. CES needs to go and should be part of the non-revenue generating initiatives that gets cut if Fleming is a man of his word. She brings no value or credibility to the sales force.
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Dave tries to seem genuine but you can see right through him. CES is probably the reason our pay keeps going down, since she is the one who reportedly said "pharma reps make too much money"
 






Anonymous said:
Hopefully you are taking some training classes to learn how to spell. If you are a sales rep and in front of physicians then I feel very sorry for Shire. Pethetic, my made....oops....I mean maid knows how to spell better than you!
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Screw you asshole. I don't spell in front of drs.; I talk.

Ever hear of hitting the wrong key...and not giving a rat's ass?

Go kiss your made....you have to pay for it.
 






Anonymous said:
Although I am sure that the look on his face when heard about MBO's and PAS's was like WTF, could you imagine the expression he would make if he could somehow be made aware of the impact all of these changes have had on the Sales Force, from the honest and accurate portrayal from someone in the field? He would lose his mind! That being said, I know that we have a Q and A with him next week, and I hope someone brings it up. I wish I had the balls to tell him....

1- MBO's, although they're gone, whoever came up with them should be fired. Anyone that tried to shovel the importance of them down our throats should be fired. And the best part about the MBO's is that even if you were one of the reps that worked really hard on them, collaborated with your team as best you can, and honestly DID earn a CE (even if it was just a few hundred bucks), the RD's have been advised that everyone gets CM's regardless of effort. So, even that was for nothing. Total BS

2- We've seen several friends and co-workers either get laid off or quit over the past few months. Some for better opportunities, and some just casualties of the re-org. Now, the PAS's are going to lose their positions, BUT the company will do ANYTHING to save them. Now I don't believe anyone should ever lose their job, but why the double standard? They're going to realign all of the territories AGAIN to make room for them 6 months after they laid 100 people off that were working in those territories??

3- Is there a human being on the planet that is wearing or using one of those stupid f'ing watches or finger holders that they gave us in Phoenix? I know its trivial, but would previous leadership done that? Why this one? Look up the company that makes the watces, try to find one positive thing..

4- Individual numbers are back! Individual Numbers are back!! Hooray, we are going back to an individual IC plan, the IC plan from 2012..... Wait, that IC plan sucked too.. There was no money really to be made in 2012, right? And, did we see how hard it was to reach 100% to goal in Q1 2013?? Did we see how hard it was even with VitalSigns GA %'s being inflated sometimes up to 5%? Wake up people, do we think its going to be easy to get to 100% now? No, it won't. They're going to just take the same goals and implement them indiviually. So, basically just look at the individual payouts for Vyvanse at 100% and Intuniv at 100% and thats ALL YOU'RE GETTING FOLKS. So, now think of what that $$$ is, and look at Q1 bonus statments. Is it much different if at all? Its all just smoke and mirrors, designed to take your perspective off of the lies.

5- Can we all recall that Monday in November 2012? November 26, when CES left the Sales Force that voice recording. The recording where she sounded like she was speaking to hostages or prisoners of war. The heartless soul-less message where she told us they've made their decisions, and to go to work on Tuesday iike nothing is happening, and then take off Wednesday and wait for "The Call". Did anyone sense even a lick of sadness, sorrow,or despair? No, she has no soul. Even Dave, whether he cared or not, sounded sincere. Would previous leadership have sounded like that during easily the most difficult month this sales force HAS EVER seen?? Not a chance. Then we get calls on that Wednesday basically just telling us what we'd be doing and where, but absolutely no mention of Bonus Plan. Nope, we sat in the dark until end of January when they finally rolled it out. It was like going for an interview at any company in the worid and saying, "Look, i don't care where you put me, how much you pay me, or what role I'd be fulfilling. I just need a job, please hire me" Was it not? Is that any way to treat your sales force?

6- Has anyone else noticed that the screenshots theyve taken religiously every Monday of their VitalSigns numbers are all still saved in their ipads, EXCEPT for week ending 3/29? Ask yourself why that would be? Whether its there or not on yours, its not there on many others who are certain they saved it. Ask, even if its there for you, would it be above this current leadership to have them remotely removed for obvious reasons? Ask yourself if former leadership was still in place, would you be questioning it?

7- VitalSigns numbers.. We are all aware of it, and it reeks of BS. Does anyone think for even a second that if the inaccuracies occured in OUR FAVOR that the email from IC would be as shortsighted as it was. Blah, blah, blah these are the numbers, blah, blah, blah, take it or leave it. So now, we can't trust our numbers. Which given the shadiness of this leadership team, its a major problem bc we CANT TRUST THEM. Take your minds back to a few years ago, and although some will argue this, most will agree. If we didn't have any access to Goal Attainment #'s throughout the quarter, we would trust leadership and home office that the numbers they gave us EOQ were fair and accurate, right? Not this leadership. Even if the numbers on the bonus reports are accurate wouldnt you, after all we've been through, just take one on the chin and pay your reps?? Wouldn't previosu leadership do it? Why not this one?

8- Our Ipads were SUPPOSED to make things better, make our jobs easier. Now, we have product restrictions every single day that makes it impossible to schedule an itinerary. We have sample eligiblity issues that cause us to avoid offices that we know need samples. Would this have happened with previous leadership?

9- Help Desk. Can you call them a help desk? Should they just be desk? I mean honestly, they cant open a trouble ticket for a sample in-eligibility issue without a screen shot from irep showing the red x. Home office needs to see the red x. We can't tell them its there, and have them start to resolve the problem, they need to see the picture. Why? What sense is that? It takes days, sometimes weeks to fix any problem and thats IF they actually fix it.

10- We are about 2 months away from our second NSM of the year, and while I am excited to spend a few days in Miami and drinking/eating for free, what could they possibly say or do while standing on that stupid stage with their stupid music, and their stupid speeches that is going to erase the last 6 months? As happy as I am that some of the changes they made are going away, how could this current leadershop team stand up there and TRY to sound credible? They can't, so they need to go.

11- We are going live with the Ipads being our presentation piece after this meeting, doesn ANYONE have even a lick of faith that it will work? Does anyone have a doctor that will sit there and wait for you to restart the app, or send a screenshot to help desk to try to figure out why you can't launch the videos? Maybe we could have them sign for samples while we are doing this... Oh wait, they're probably not eligible for samples anyway, right?

12- If you think of Shire as a big pie, and each part (pay, resources, leadership, training, IC plan, management, help desk, quality of life, etc) as a slice of the pie, the whole damn thing reeks. We could overlook a slice here and there being bad, but could make up for it with other good lsices. Not this pie, not this leadership..

13- Flemming needs to know that this great culture of Shire that he speaks of is gone. He needs to know just how disengaged this sales force is from home office/leadership. He needs to know that the amount of people in the field that have faith and trust in anything that comes out of anyone's mouth in Chesterbook is very small, and even they are wavering. He needs to know that we are grossly underpaid. He needs to be aware that this sales force has been kicked, beaten, lied to, misrepresented, misled, and dragged through the mud for months. And we should all just be happy we have jobs. Is that NOT the attitude out of this leadership team? Was it the attitude from previous leadership?

Flemming, from me to you, on an anonymous board bc I dont have the balls to make career suicide and open up in the Q and A, and because no matter what they say at Shire, nothing is anonymous. Please understand, what you THINK Shire is based on history or what they are feeding you at Home Office COULD NOT be further from an accurate depiction of what Shire is today. I hope you or someone close to you reads this and shares it with you. I hope someone in the sales force steps up next week to say all of this and more to you. I hope you continue what you are doing to try to make Shire profitable and successful in the years to come. But please realize, there are people out there that are the face of this company. These people are the people that are solely responsible for driving results, increae revenue, and build credibility for this company. And these are the same people that have been negatively impacted the most by this horrible leadership team.

We are the people that need you the most. The vacancies will keep growing. The sales force that helped lauch several products, that have built amazing share and growth, the people that were the culture of Shire are either all gone or are leaving. Put your money where your mouth is... or better yet, put it in the bank accounts of the people working for it.
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Whoa! How long did it take you to write this manifesto? LOL. Good points though. Main issue at Shire-TRUST. There is no trust, how many people missed that $2,000 bonus by a few scripts? How it is that all the numbers were wrong in Q1 "by a few percentage points", if that were true then some people would be over the goal they showed in vital signs and some people under, but no, everyone is bitching because they are getting paid LESS than what they expected. WE DONT BELIEVE YOU HQ! Besides other reps have caught Shire paying them out incorrectly and they had to correct this, but now they will just deny it even if you have the numbers saved- oh those numbers are not correct. REALLY??? You guys better watch your asses because how would this stand up in a court of law? Sadly there would be no hope for an average rep who doesn't have the money and resources that the company has
 












Anonymous said:
Although I am sure that the look on his face when heard about MBO's and PAS's was like WTF, could you imagine the expression he would make if he could somehow be made aware of the impact all of these changes have had on the Sales Force, from the honest and accurate portrayal from someone in the field? He would lose his mind! That being said, I know that we have a Q and A with him next week, and I hope someone brings it up. I wish I had the balls to tell him....

1- MBO's, although they're gone, whoever came up with them should be fired. Anyone that tried to shovel the importance of them down our throats should be fired. And the best part about the MBO's is that even if you were one of the reps that worked really hard on them, collaborated with your team as best you can, and honestly DID earn a CE (even if it was just a few hundred bucks), the RD's have been advised that everyone gets CM's regardless of effort. So, even that was for nothing. Total BS

2- We've seen several friends and co-workers either get laid off or quit over the past few months. Some for better opportunities, and some just casualties of the re-org. Now, the PAS's are going to lose their positions, BUT the company will do ANYTHING to save them. Now I don't believe anyone should ever lose their job, but why the double standard? They're going to realign all of the territories AGAIN to make room for them 6 months after they laid 100 people off that were working in those territories??

3- Is there a human being on the planet that is wearing or using one of those stupid f'ing watches or finger holders that they gave us in Phoenix? I know its trivial, but would previous leadership done that? Why this one? Look up the company that makes the watces, try to find one positive thing..

4- Individual numbers are back! Individual Numbers are back!! Hooray, we are going back to an individual IC plan, the IC plan from 2012..... Wait, that IC plan sucked too.. There was no money really to be made in 2012, right? And, did we see how hard it was to reach 100% to goal in Q1 2013?? Did we see how hard it was even with VitalSigns GA %'s being inflated sometimes up to 5%? Wake up people, do we think its going to be easy to get to 100% now? No, it won't. They're going to just take the same goals and implement them indiviually. So, basically just look at the individual payouts for Vyvanse at 100% and Intuniv at 100% and thats ALL YOU'RE GETTING FOLKS. So, now think of what that $$$ is, and look at Q1 bonus statments. Is it much different if at all? Its all just smoke and mirrors, designed to take your perspective off of the lies.

5- Can we all recall that Monday in November 2012? November 26, when CES left the Sales Force that voice recording. The recording where she sounded like she was speaking to hostages or prisoners of war. The heartless soul-less message where she told us they've made their decisions, and to go to work on Tuesday iike nothing is happening, and then take off Wednesday and wait for "The Call". Did anyone sense even a lick of sadness, sorrow,or despair? No, she has no soul. Even Dave, whether he cared or not, sounded sincere. Would previous leadership have sounded like that during easily the most difficult month this sales force HAS EVER seen?? Not a chance. Then we get calls on that Wednesday basically just telling us what we'd be doing and where, but absolutely no mention of Bonus Plan. Nope, we sat in the dark until end of January when they finally rolled it out. It was like going for an interview at any company in the worid and saying, "Look, i don't care where you put me, how much you pay me, or what role I'd be fulfilling. I just need a job, please hire me" Was it not? Is that any way to treat your sales force?

6- Has anyone else noticed that the screenshots theyve taken religiously every Monday of their VitalSigns numbers are all still saved in their ipads, EXCEPT for week ending 3/29? Ask yourself why that would be? Whether its there or not on yours, its not there on many others who are certain they saved it. Ask, even if its there for you, would it be above this current leadership to have them remotely removed for obvious reasons? Ask yourself if former leadership was still in place, would you be questioning it?

7- VitalSigns numbers.. We are all aware of it, and it reeks of BS. Does anyone think for even a second that if the inaccuracies occured in OUR FAVOR that the email from IC would be as shortsighted as it was. Blah, blah, blah these are the numbers, blah, blah, blah, take it or leave it. So now, we can't trust our numbers. Which given the shadiness of this leadership team, its a major problem bc we CANT TRUST THEM. Take your minds back to a few years ago, and although some will argue this, most will agree. If we didn't have any access to Goal Attainment #'s throughout the quarter, we would trust leadership and home office that the numbers they gave us EOQ were fair and accurate, right? Not this leadership. Even if the numbers on the bonus reports are accurate wouldnt you, after all we've been through, just take one on the chin and pay your reps?? Wouldn't previosu leadership do it? Why not this one?

8- Our Ipads were SUPPOSED to make things better, make our jobs easier. Now, we have product restrictions every single day that makes it impossible to schedule an itinerary. We have sample eligiblity issues that cause us to avoid offices that we know need samples. Would this have happened with previous leadership?

9- Help Desk. Can you call them a help desk? Should they just be desk? I mean honestly, they cant open a trouble ticket for a sample in-eligibility issue without a screen shot from irep showing the red x. Home office needs to see the red x. We can't tell them its there, and have them start to resolve the problem, they need to see the picture. Why? What sense is that? It takes days, sometimes weeks to fix any problem and thats IF they actually fix it.

10- We are about 2 months away from our second NSM of the year, and while I am excited to spend a few days in Miami and drinking/eating for free, what could they possibly say or do while standing on that stupid stage with their stupid music, and their stupid speeches that is going to erase the last 6 months? As happy as I am that some of the changes they made are going away, how could this current leadershop team stand up there and TRY to sound credible? They can't, so they need to go.

11- We are going live with the Ipads being our presentation piece after this meeting, doesn ANYONE have even a lick of faith that it will work? Does anyone have a doctor that will sit there and wait for you to restart the app, or send a screenshot to help desk to try to figure out why you can't launch the videos? Maybe we could have them sign for samples while we are doing this... Oh wait, they're probably not eligible for samples anyway, right?

12- If you think of Shire as a big pie, and each part (pay, resources, leadership, training, IC plan, management, help desk, quality of life, etc) as a slice of the pie, the whole damn thing reeks. We could overlook a slice here and there being bad, but could make up for it with other good lsices. Not this pie, not this leadership..

13- Flemming needs to know that this great culture of Shire that he speaks of is gone. He needs to know just how disengaged this sales force is from home office/leadership. He needs to know that the amount of people in the field that have faith and trust in anything that comes out of anyone's mouth in Chesterbook is very small, and even they are wavering. He needs to know that we are grossly underpaid. He needs to be aware that this sales force has been kicked, beaten, lied to, misrepresented, misled, and dragged through the mud for months. And we should all just be happy we have jobs. Is that NOT the attitude out of this leadership team? Was it the attitude from previous leadership?

Flemming, from me to you, on an anonymous board bc I dont have the balls to make career suicide and open up in the Q and A, and because no matter what they say at Shire, nothing is anonymous. Please understand, what you THINK Shire is based on history or what they are feeding you at Home Office COULD NOT be further from an accurate depiction of what Shire is today. I hope you or someone close to you reads this and shares it with you. I hope someone in the sales force steps up next week to say all of this and more to you. I hope you continue what you are doing to try to make Shire profitable and successful in the years to come. But please realize, there are people out there that are the face of this company. These people are the people that are solely responsible for driving results, increae revenue, and build credibility for this company. And these are the same people that have been negatively impacted the most by this horrible leadership team.

We are the people that need you the most. The vacancies will keep growing. The sales force that helped lauch several products, that have built amazing share and growth, the people that were the culture of Shire are either all gone or are leaving. Put your money where your mouth is... or better yet, put it in the bank accounts of the people working for it.
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Anonymous said:
Dave tries to seem genuine but you can see right through him. CES is probably the reason our pay keeps going down, since she is the one who reportedly said "pharma reps make too much money"
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Managements number one rule: cya first, then spin the truth to make it what you want it to be.

If it looks like crap, smells like crap......and tastes like crap....It's Crap, no matter how you try to hide it, and Shire and its upper moment is all CRAP!
 


















I wish there was a way to let Flemming know just how bad this thing has gotten. Whether he cares or not, I think he would bug out if he even had a clue. There is absolutely no way he could possibly keep this current leadership if he knew and wanted to right the ship. There is not one thing that isn't completely screwed up right now.
 






Anonymous said:
I wish there was a way to let Flemming know just how bad this thing has gotten. Whether he cares or not, I think he would bug out if he even had a clue. There is absolutely no way he could possibly keep this current leadership if he knew and wanted to right the ship. There is not one thing that isn't completely screwed up right now.
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I think he has a pretty good idea already based on his communication the past couple of weeks. As far as to what happens to the idiots who were sitting on stage in Phoenix, I hope they are held accountable for their unbelievably poor leadership.

I wish Flemming could have witnessed what a debacle that whole meeting was. What a waste of time and money. Speaking of which, I hope I never have to sit through a useless Delta Point speech or exercise module again.
 






Anonymous said:
I think he has a pretty good idea already based on his communication the past couple of weeks. As far as to what happens to the idiots who were sitting on stage in Phoenix, I hope they are held accountable for their unbelievably poor leadership.

I wish Flemming could have witnessed what a debacle that whole meeting was. What a waste of time and money. Speaking of which, I hope I never have to sit through a useless Delta Point speech or exercise module again.
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Yea i think the gravy train for acuff and his crew is over
 












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