NEED HELP ASAP ON HR QUESTION

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I haven't been on cafepharma for a long time. I know that people ask and write some crazy stuff on here-but I am looking for serious feedback on this issue-so please save the jokes for other threads.
I have been with my small-mid sized company for 12 years and I have a proven track record of success and being easy to work with and manage. I have excellent relationships in my offices with staff and doctors. However, without going into every detail, a new manager is trying to ride me out. I have tried for awhile to make it work, play the game etc, but he/she seems determined to bring me down, verbally and now in writing (bad reports etc)
I am beyond trying to make this work, as it is making me sick. I don't want to look for another job because I really like my job and I have worked hard to get where I am. Actually, because of this situation, I have started looking because I am realistic, but I don't really want to leave.
My manager is a first time manager, many of my co workers feel the same way about his/her bullying management style, but no one is going to come forward because they are all afraid. I understand this, no one wants to be a target and lose their job.
So here is my question: should I discuss this situation with hr? just deal with it and allow this manager to put bad things about me in writing? hire an attorney? have my attorney call hr? Let hr know I have talked to an attorney?
The truth is, I have talked to an attorney, but have not actually retained him yet. He is an employment attorney, but not necessarily experienced in pharmaceutical. Should I get an attorney who knows the pharm industry better? The attorney I spoke with is a family friend and does specialize in employment law.
Please help me! Only serious responses please.
 












Get a Plan B going, that means keep interviewing and looking

Notify Employee Relations to begin your own paper trail officially ( no HR is not YOUR friend; but if you complain without documentation of this issues, it means nothing. You need to start your own paper trail for your lawyer or EEOC or both)

Keep you plan B going
Watch your back, GPS tracking will be activated and monitored

Keep your plan B going

Don't sign your field ride alongs if you disagree.
Record your manager and make a copy 'for your file'

Keep your numbers up
Save his/her emails and pay attention for discrepancies.

Plan to leave, any pharma job that lasts 12 yrs does not reflect favorably on you. You look like you have settled, unmotivated and know how to work the system. You need to show challenge, growth and potential, so look at this as the universe's way of pushing you out of your comfort zone. Life is not meant to be comfortable after all-that's where we get things all mixed up in our American way.
 






Anonymous said:
Get a Plan B going, that means keep interviewing and looking

Notify Employee Relations to begin your own paper trail officially ( no HR is not YOUR friend; but if you complain without documentation of this issues, it means nothing. You need to start your own paper trail for your lawyer or EEOC or both)

Keep you plan B going
Watch your back, GPS tracking will be activated and monitored

Keep your plan B going

Don't sign your field ride alongs if you disagree.
Record your manager and make a copy 'for your file'

Keep your numbers up
Save his/her emails and pay attention for discrepancies.

Plan to leave, any pharma job that lasts 12 yrs does not reflect favorably on you. You look like you have settled, unmotivated and know how to work the system. You need to show challenge, growth and potential, so look at this as the universe's way of pushing you out of your comfort zone. Life is not meant to be comfortable after all-that's where we get things all mixed up in our American way.
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Can I just take it all back now?
 






Anonymous said:
I haven't been on cafepharma for a long time. I know that people ask and write some crazy stuff on here-but I am looking for serious feedback on this issue-so please save the jokes for other threads.
I have been with my small-mid sized company for 12 years and I have a proven track record of success and being easy to work with and manage. I have excellent relationships in my offices with staff and doctors. However, without going into every detail, a new manager is trying to ride me out. I have tried for awhile to make it work, play the game etc, but he/she seems determined to bring me down, verbally and now in writing (bad reports etc)
I am beyond trying to make this work, as it is making me sick. I don't want to look for another job because I really like my job and I have worked hard to get where I am. Actually, because of this situation, I have started looking because I am realistic, but I don't really want to leave.
My manager is a first time manager, many of my co workers feel the same way about his/her bullying management style, but no one is going to come forward because they are all afraid. I understand this, no one wants to be a target and lose their job.
So here is my question: should I discuss this situation with hr? just deal with it and allow this manager to put bad things about me in writing? hire an attorney? have my attorney call hr? Let hr know I have talked to an attorney?
The truth is, I have talked to an attorney, but have not actually retained him yet. He is an employment attorney, but not necessarily experienced in pharmaceutical. Should I get an attorney who knows the pharm industry better? The attorney I spoke with is a family friend and does specialize in employment law.
Please help me! Only serious responses please.
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Better call Saul. You sound like a major whiner and lazy on top pf that. Get all the attorneys you want. They get rich in taking easy money from people like you that had their precious feelings hurt. The pharma company has far more attorneys and they do this everyday in the week. You have no chance you will just be buying some sleazebag attorney a new boat. Sorry, you really are not as special and entitled as your Mommy always said.
 






Anonymous said:
Better call Saul. You sound like a major whiner and lazy on top pf that. Get all the attorneys you want. They get rich in taking easy money from people like you that had their precious feelings hurt. The pharma company has far more attorneys and they do this everyday in the week. You have no chance you will just be buying some sleazebag attorney a new boat. Sorry, you really are not as special and entitled as your Mommy always said.
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*Cheers!*
 






Have you considered that your manager may not be aware of how she is coming across to her employees? You mentioned that other team members feel the same way- I am sure it is not her intention to alienate her entire team. I recently disputed a performance review section with my manager for being overly critical-only to learn that he meant it in a favorable way!

Is there any way you can share you feelings with your manager? Perhaps just state that your field reports are more negative than those you have received in the past and you want to make sure that you are meeting her expectations- and just see what she says?

I wish you all the best! Remember, being a first time manager cannot be easy- try giving her the benefit of the doubt.
 






Anonymous said:
Get a Plan B going, that means keep interviewing and looking

Notify Employee Relations to begin your own paper trail officially ( no HR is not YOUR friend; but if you complain without documentation of this issues, it means nothing. You need to start your own paper trail for your lawyer or EEOC or both)

Keep you plan B going
Watch your back, GPS tracking will be activated and monitored

Keep your plan B going

Don't sign your field ride alongs if you disagree.
Record your manager and make a copy 'for your file'

Keep your numbers up
Save his/her emails and pay attention for discrepancies.

Plan to leave, any pharma job that lasts 12 yrs does not reflect favorably on you. You look like you have settled, unmotivated and know how to work the system. You need to show challenge, growth and potential, so look at this as the universe's way of pushing you out of your comfort zone. Life is not meant to be comfortable after all-that's where we get things all mixed up in our American way.
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I have the same situation like poster #1. My original manager quit, as the company has had high turnover, but he was great. They hired a manger who has only worked on contracts his entire career and doesn't know much about my industry.
I refused to sign a field contact report originally, however, he "tortured" me to sign the false report. I added comments and the retaliation has begun. My computer, email, report list, etc didn't work so I has to send it back. I'm sure the home office saw all emails to my personal address. He gave me a date on the phone when he was coming, which I has commitments (call was recorded). When he rode with me I recorded the 1 1/2 days and saved all emails. He now sent a report with ALL below expectations and accused me of things that were lies but recorded.
In the mist of all this, I contacted HR and stated I am experiencing some health problems. I utilized their link, made an appointment to see a counselor, etc. now, this clown wants to put me on a PIP.
Thoughts? No jokes please.
 






What can you do when your boss has a good friend under him that seems to get ALL the praise and awards when he’s NEVER been near the top? How does BT get away with this?
 






Just find another job and don't over complicate the situation.

Or you could request another manger if that opportunity is there.

This happens a lot, by the way, because the corporate world is predatory and has an abundance of incompetent and lazy people in "leadership" positions.
 






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