More layoffs supposedly on the way. Which groups provide little value?

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2024, Medtech didn't met the reduction target and they ran out of time.. pharma also have small trimming to do .. post May, post KenVue TSA, headcount in shared services supporting TSA will become redundant .. JNJ is fundamentally not able to adjust there headcount to market dynamics and headcount culture is eating it up thru hierarchies and fiefdom… JD was suppose to do a major clean up but he could only do Consumer .. JD has lost its mojo
 



anonymous said:
2024, Medtech didn't met the reduction target and they ran out of time.. pharma also have small trimming to do .. post May, post KenVue TSA, headcount in shared services supporting TSA will become redundant .. JNJ is fundamentally not able to adjust there headcount to market dynamics and headcount culture is eating it up thru hierarchies and fiefdom… JD was suppose to do a major clean up but he could only do Consumer .. JD has lost its mojo
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Not worded well but 100% accurate. We lost 1/3 of manufacturing but we did not cut 1/3 of Supply Chain or Global Services yet! So basically we are carrying even more % overhead than before the Consumer/Kenvue/Diamond project. 33% of all support functions should have been cut in 2022 but it’s did not fully happen then. Now we are letting Consumer/Kenvue people come back. Need a 100% hiring freeze to let attrition take the headcount down to the “right” level. Again, we are not doing that due to ineffective leadership and concerns regarding reputation & stock price drops that “could” occur with big layoff announcements. Instead we have been trickling the reductions year after year. Also getting rid of LTMs is very political. Firing flunkies is easy - for them.
 



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Not worded well but 100% accurate. We lost 1/3 of manufacturing but we did not cut 1/3 of Supply Chain or Global Services yet! So basically we are carrying even more % overhead than before the Consumer/Kenvue/Diamond project. 33% of all support functions should have been cut in 2022 but it’s did not fully happen then. Now we are letting Consumer/Kenvue people come back. Need a 100% hiring freeze to let attrition take the headcount down to the “right” level. Again, we are not doing that due to ineffective leadership and concerns regarding reputation & stock price drops that “could” occur with big layoff announcements. Instead we have been trickling the reductions year after year. Also getting rid of LTMs is very political. Firing flunkies is easy - for them.
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How does JNJ have 150,000 employees after multiple years of layoffs and a spinoff of consumer (Kenvue)? Who is watching the cash register? Deep Dive — How AI is Shaping Career Pathways for J&J’s 150,000-Strong Workforce
 



anonymous said:
Not worded well but 100% accurate. We lost 1/3 of manufacturing but we did not cut 1/3 of Supply Chain or Global Services yet! So basically we are carrying even more % overhead than before the Consumer/Kenvue/Diamond project. 33% of all support functions should have been cut in 2022 but it’s did not fully happen then. Now we are letting Consumer/Kenvue people come back. Need a 100% hiring freeze to let attrition take the headcount down to the “right” level. Again, we are not doing that due to ineffective leadership and concerns regarding reputation & stock price drops that “could” occur with big layoff announcements. Instead we have been trickling the reductions year after year. Also getting rid of LTMs is very political. Firing flunkies is easy - for them.
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Those groups are getting bigger and bigger. J&J let go of a good CPO and gave job to terrible CPO. Quiet but ruiness and false CPO hired 10 VPs more still being hired and for what? Worse than before. Bad behaviors right under his very nose and does nothing lets his minions clean up the mess and he gets promoted ! Well there you have it welcome to the meal train. Just shuffle the mess and make is messier. Unqualified VPs and Directors.
 



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Just saying I can’t get anything done with GS Procurement folks. They close my PRs with no contracts in place. My suppliers freak out because they require contracts to invoice and it always needs to get escalated to an actual human in Procurement. Procurement already fast passed almost all my contracts with their job aids/automations. No contracting sounds more efficient until you run into the situation where a PO is approved, no contract and supplier refuses to start work.
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Don’t worry they let go of old CPO no announcement too bad he was great and instead promoted terrible CPO who now used the budget of the old CPO to hire 10 VPs with do nothing titles who sit far away from the sectors. Jobs still posting at the highest levels.
 






anonymous said:
2025 Layoffs will be more than the 20,000 in 2024. Through December expect almost 23,000 total. Significant numbers of people will be affected in EMEA & US (again). Need to pay for more acquisitions & litigation. Mentor, Cerenovus, Endo … look out/bid out.
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Not more than 4,000 will be laid off. Stop your fear mongering.
 












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From EMEA perspective Global Services is the most top heavy group in Johnson & Johnson with 16 VPs & 160 Directors pushing $200MM in total compensation. This group could be cut by 75% to 4 VPs & 40 Directors saving $150MM in one day. That money would be given back to the rest of the company. Supply Chain is #2. Instead of doing the above they will cut the lower level people first since the decisions are made at the top. You will see. We are expecting big cuts here in MedTech Synthes & Cerenovus and some in Janssen vaccines & oncology. Switzerland, Ireland, Belgium, Netherlands.
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DOGE in action!
 






anonymous said:
Agree. The reciprocal tariffs for US goods coming into China and EMEA are going to tank sales in MedTech. It’s going probably going increase the layoffs.
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True. There are many products that JNJ is selling at a loss now due to tarrifs on imports from Mexico and tariffs on American imports in China.

JNJ Medtech was one of the largest & earliest companies selling in China. JNJ might even have to stop exporting to China if this continues, which will result is very steep layoffs of JNJ employees in the US and Mexico.
 



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True. There are many products that JNJ is selling at a loss now due to tarrifs on imports from Mexico and tariffs on American imports in China.

JNJ Medtech was one of the largest & earliest companies selling in China. JNJ might even have to stop exporting to China if this continues, which will result is very steep layoffs of JNJ employees in the US and Mexico.
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Agreed, Sales & Production volumes will decrease sharply for companies not producing 100% in USA due to price competition with domestic producers. Using low paid slave labor in other countries is not aging well. Juarez minimum wage is $2.59 per hour, Manila minimum wage is $1.45 per hour, Czech Republic minimum wage is $5.31 per hour, Brazil minimum wage is $1.62 per hour, China minimum wage is $3.30 per hour. Nice job J&J of targeting jobs in these countries just to save labor $$$. J&J decision makers pull down $500,000 per year minimum total compensation. CREDO preaches one thing but we do the opposite. New World Order.
 



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Agreed, Sales & Production volumes will decrease sharply for companies not producing 100% in USA due to price competition with domestic producers. Using low paid slave labor in other countries is not aging well. Juarez minimum wage is $2.59 per hour, Manila minimum wage is $1.45 per hour, Czech Republic minimum wage is $5.31 per hour, Brazil minimum wage is $1.62 per hour, China minimum wage is $3.30 per hour. Nice job J&J of targeting jobs in these countries just to save labor $$$. J&J decision makers pull down $500,000 per year minimum total compensation. CREDO preaches one thing but we do the opposite. New World Order.
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You made no mention of the American jobs that are going to be lost as a result of the retaliatory tariffs China has imposed on the US. Lots of JNJ products are made in the USA and exported to China. As of today, China has imposed a 125% tariff on American-made products, making it practically impossible for American companies to sell their products in China.
 



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You made no mention of the American jobs that are going to be lost as a result of the retaliatory tariffs China has imposed on the US. Lots of JNJ products are made in the USA and exported to China. As of today, China has imposed a 125% tariff on American-made products, making it practically impossible for American companies to sell their products in China.
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Doesn't China require a certain percentage of products to be made in China? If I'm not mistaken that's why jnj has contract manufacturers in China, Heck, JnJ has a manufacturing site in China. Realistically, JnJ may be fine selling to China, just their profit margins will drop because they can't sell to the US anymore. Maybe this will make JnJ clean up its US manufacturing/supply chain and drop the dead weight for people that actually know what they're doing
 



anonymous said:
You made no mention of the American jobs that are going to be lost as a result of the retaliatory tariffs China has imposed on the US. Lots of JNJ products are made in the USA and exported to China. As of today, China has imposed a 125% tariff on American-made products, making it practically impossible for American companies to sell their products in China.
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I’m not sure the U.S. as a whole was selling much to China compared to what China has been selling to the U.S. prior to these new tariffs
 






anonymous said:
Agreed, Sales & Production volumes will decrease sharply for companies not producing 100% in USA due to price competition with domestic producers. Using low paid slave labor in other countries is not aging well. Juarez minimum wage is $2.59 per hour, Manila minimum wage is $1.45 per hour, Czech Republic minimum wage is $5.31 per hour, Brazil minimum wage is $1.62 per hour, China minimum wage is $3.30 per hour. Nice job J&J of targeting jobs in these countries just to save labor $$$. J&J decision makers pull down $500,000 per year minimum total compensation. CREDO preaches one thing but we do the opposite. New World Order.
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Exactly. And bring back Liability for vaccines, RFK, Jr. Make it in America Again.
 




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