Memo to Xanodyne Pharmaceuticals

[Anonymous]

I am a PA in an internal medicine office. I recently had a discussion with my Xanodyne representative that concerns me.

I have written several Zipsor prescriptions over the past six months. My writing for Zipsor has steadily increased as a result of an abundance of samples and good reports of tolerability from my patients.

My last few prescriptions, including one refill, have resulted in complaints of ineffective pain relief. When discussing these results with my rep, she offered some disturbing possible explanations. She told me that Zipsor is can be degraded by light exposure and heat. What really upset me was that I could not find these issues addressed in either the product insert or your website. Furthermore, she told me that her manager instructed her not proactively address these attributes. She also stated that she was told some time ago that reps would be receiving coolers to transport samples, but that this idea seems to have passed. Meanwhile, we are in the middle of the summer's first heatwave.

Until I receive more information from the company or an FDA letter, I will no longer be writing Zipsor prescriptions. I find the fact that your company tries to hide this valuable information to be suspicious and unethical. This behavior gives a black eye to your company and its products.

 

[Anonymous]

I am a PA in an internal medicine office. I recently had a discussion with my Xanodyne representative that concerns me.

I have written several Zipsor prescriptions over the past six months. My writing for Zipsor has steadily increased as a result of an abundance of samples and good reports of tolerability from my patients.

My last few prescriptions, including one refill, have resulted in complaints of ineffective pain relief. When discussing these results with my rep, she offered some disturbing possible explanations. She told me that Zipsor is can be degraded by light exposure and heat. What really upset me was that I could not find these issues addressed in either the product insert or your website. Furthermore, she told me that her manager instructed her not proactively address these attributes. She also stated that she was told some time ago that reps would be receiving coolers to transport samples, but that this idea seems to have passed. Meanwhile, we are in the middle of the summer's first heatwave.

Until I receive more information from the company or an FDA letter, I will no longer be writing Zipsor prescriptions. I find the fact that your company tries to hide this valuable information to be suspicious and unethical. This behavior gives a black eye to your company and its products.

Xanodyne unethical?? you can't be serious? Say it ain't so!!

 

[Anonymous]

xano rep here. we were told about this at our national meeting in feb and i never heard another peep about it. our medical director quit shortly after that.

 

[Anonymous]

xano rep here. we were told about this at our national meeting in feb and i never heard another peep about it. our medical director quit shortly after that.

guys, don't work for xano, but wouldn't touch this post. if this information is true, this is FDA business now if they decide to report. i know you don't want to get drug into the impending lawsuit that will follow as more people discover this info. this is serious business if all of you knew this info. and lied about it or 'chose' not to disclose. SERIOUS BUSINESS! just some advice, but do what you will.

 

[Anonymous]

None of this should surprise anybody at our company. Short term money for investors and upper management with zero vision for the future is SOP. SB was at Purdue when they were involved in some shady messaging for oxycontin, so I'm sure he has no problem with all of this.

 

[Anonymous]

This is ridiculous. In the PI it does state the temperatures that Zipsor should be stored (between 59 and 86 degrees). I am using a cooler. It is a freaking gel cap. It can melt. That is why we have climate controlled storage units. Reps need to get a brain. Just because the company hasnt told you to go get a cooler doesnt mean that you cant. Just expense it. Treat your job as if it is your own business. Be smart, and stop whining. If we start focusing on what we can do and what we should do, we can make some great bonus money. No, I am not a MGR. I just dont understand why people complain and point fingers instead of finding solutions and helping each other. We all need to be grateful we have a jobs and dont work for Pfizer.

 

[Anonymous]

This is ridiculous. In the PI it does state the temperatures that Zipsor should be stored (between 59 and 86 degrees). I am using a cooler. It is a freaking gel cap. It can melt. That is why we have climate controlled storage units. Reps need to get a brain. Just because the company hasnt told you to go get a cooler doesnt mean that you cant. Just expense it. Treat your job as if it is your own business. Be smart, and stop whining. If we start focusing on what we can do and what we should do, we can make some great bonus money. No, I am not a MGR. I just dont understand why people complain and point fingers instead of finding solutions and helping each other. We all need to be grateful we have a jobs and dont work for Pfizer.

if you don't think this situation is a serious legal and medical affairs issue, you have to be upper management.

who else would say, "reps need to get a brain" and are "whining"?

who else would tell us to treat our job as our business, when xano does not accept free thinking or rep input?

who else would think that this is real money? most pfizer reps make more money on severance than we do period - esp when you consider a lot of their severance packages lasted longer than most of our jobs ultimately will.

why would a rep feel like this topic is a "finger ponted at them"?

do you realize how stupid and transparent you guys are? your post shows either just how dumb you are or how dumb you think everybody else else. this has to be gn or sb. doesn't matter as they are joined at the sphincter.

by the way, i was specifically told i could NOT expense a cooler because the company would be issuing them.

thanks for your helpful post, phuktard. hope the OP or somebody else has fired off a letter to the FDA. i wonder if they think this BS is the rep's fault???? now you go and tell us how it is..... don't forget to remind us also how we're all whiners and how much money xano pays. happy 4th, now go sit on a roman candle - you know you wanna....

 

[Anonymous]

Treat your job as if it is your own business.

If I treated my job as my own business, I would have cleaned house, starting with managment, then moved down to rm's in Texas,I sure as hell would not keep calling on these fucked up targets the company gave us, I would have opened up the territories from day one, I would have had every podiatrist on my list, I would have had every ob/gyn on my list, and finally, I would have priced my product around .90-1.00 a pill, remember, xano did not invent the product, they make it liquid, whoopee

 

[Anonymous]

This is ridiculous. In the PI it does state the temperatures that Zipsor should be stored (between 59 and 86 degrees). I am using a cooler. It is a freaking gel cap. It can melt. That is why we have climate controlled storage units. Reps need to get a brain. Just because the company hasnt told you to go get a cooler doesnt mean that you cant. Just expense it. Treat your job as if it is your own business. Be smart, and stop whining. If we start focusing on what we can do and what we should do, we can make some great bonus money. No, I am not a MGR. I just dont understand why people complain and point fingers instead of finding solutions and helping each other. We all need to be grateful we have a jobs and dont work for Pfizer.

Why would you buy a cooler? Managers don't need coolers, dummy!

Guess what, Scott? My samples are delivered in the back of a very hot cargo van from a very long distance. My delivery driver told me that they are warehoused in a NON climate controlled environment. But, hey, who ever experiences temps of 86F in the summer?

Guess what buddy, I"M gonna be the one to turn this info into the FDA. I hope I'm the first. Maybe if you beg they'll let you go back to hawking Oxycontin as a safe, nonabusable alternative to other opioids.

 

[Anonymous]

I am a PA in an internal medicine office. I recently had a discussion with my Xanodyne representative that concerns me.

I have written several Zipsor prescriptions over the past six months. My writing for Zipsor has steadily increased as a result of an abundance of samples and good reports of tolerability from my patients.

My last few prescriptions, including one refill, have resulted in complaints of ineffective pain relief. When discussing these results with my rep, she offered some disturbing possible explanations. She told me that Zipsor is can be degraded by light exposure and heat. What really upset me was that I could not find these issues addressed in either the product insert or your website. Furthermore, she told me that her manager instructed her not proactively address these attributes. She also stated that she was told some time ago that reps would be receiving coolers to transport samples, but that this idea seems to have passed. Meanwhile, we are in the middle of the summer's first heatwave.

Until I receive more information from the company or an FDA letter, I will no longer be writing Zipsor prescriptions. I find the fact that your company tries to hide this valuable information to be suspicious and unethical. This behavior gives a black eye to your company and its products.

Sir or Madam
If this is true then you need to demand an adverse event reporting form from your rep. If they don't comply you need to call Xanodyne compliance to report it. If you care about your patients and other practitioners patients then don't waste time posting on this crappy board. Be a professional and handle it responsibaly

 

[Anonymous]

Treat your job as if it is your own business.

If I treated my job as my own business, I would have cleaned house, starting with managment, then moved down to rm's in Texas,I sure as hell would not keep calling on these fucked up targets the company gave us, I would have opened up the territories from day one, I would have had every podiatrist on my list, I would have had every ob/gyn on my list, and finally, I would have priced my product around .90-1.00 a pill, remember, xano did not invent the product, they make it liquid, whoopee

Well said....

 

[Anonymous]

Treat your job as if it is your own business.

If I treated my job as my own business, I would have cleaned house, starting with managment, then moved down to rm's in Texas,I sure as hell would not keep calling on these fucked up targets the company gave us, I would have opened up the territories from day one, I would have had every podiatrist on my list, I would have had every ob/gyn on my list, and finally, I would have priced my product around .90-1.00 a pill, remember, xano did not invent the product, they make it liquid, whoopee

So what you are saying is you would be out of business already. Let's see get rid of the people that are bringing in the most sales...that makes sense, I do agree on the targets though but you just killed any advantage to doing that because you under priced the drug. If you sell on price it's no wonder you aren't doing well. However, you more than likely no longer work here and are a disgruntled person that got let go....that is obvious.

 

[Anonymous]

So what you are saying is you would be out of business already. Let's see get rid of the people that are bringing in the most sales...that makes sense, I do agree on the targets though but you just killed any advantage to doing that because you under priced the drug. If you sell on price it's no wonder you aren't doing well. However, you more than likely no longer work here and are a disgruntled person that got let go....that is obvious.

Yeah you're right.. we should be doing what you dipshits have been telling us to do with no variation whatsoever. Because the results have been just outstanding to date. Last question Scott, are you a worse manager or strategist? Do you think that you and your band of cretins and lackeys will ever realize that you are not where you are because of any special talents, work ethic, knowledge, or skill set? You were simply at the right place, at the right time, with your tongue in the correct orifice.

I do not know if the person you are responding to has left or been let go, but what does that matter? I do know that I'm here and I am disgruntled as hell. I'm glad that you think us reps do not earn our paychecks. Believe me, I have been doing the absolute minimum to earn mine recently. I thank you and Dan and the whole band of Newport dummies for that!

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah you're right.. we should be doing what you dipshits have been telling us to do with no variation whatsoever. Because the results have been just outstanding to date. Last question Scott, are you a worse manager or strategist? Do you think that you and your band of cretins and lackeys will ever realize that you are not where you are because of any special talents, work ethic, knowledge, or skill set? You were simply at the right place, at the right time, with your tongue in the correct orifice.

I do not know if the person you are responding to has left or been let go, but what does that matter? I do know that I'm here and I am disgruntled as hell. I'm glad that you think us reps do not earn our paychecks. Believe me, I have been doing the absolute minimum to earn mine recently. I thank you and Dan and the whole band of Newport dummies for that!

You have proven you don't earn your paychecks. Start selling and getting to 25 and you will...simple. Oh and BTW- I am way above you...you little minion serf. Take my orders now!!! The targets suck I know but I will never admit I was wrong!!!! yours truly SB

 

[Anonymous]

You have proven you don't earn your paychecks. Start selling and getting to 25 and you will...simple. Oh and BTW- I am way above you...you little minion serf. Take my orders now!!! The targets suck I know but I will never admit I was wrong!!!! yours truly SB

2 great quote byColin Powell
1.Experts often possess more data than judgment
2.Leadership is solving problems. The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help or concluded you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.

Clearly this company does not have any good leaders

 

[Anonymous]

So what you are saying is you would be out of business already. Let's see get rid of the people that are bringing in the most sales...that makes sense, I do agree on the targets though but you just killed any advantage to doing that because you under priced the drug. If you sell on price it's no wonder you aren't doing well. However, you more than likely no longer work here and are a disgruntled person that got let go....that is obvious.


did not say get rid of the reps, get rid of worthless rm from texas, as for underpricing, might have helped us out regarding formulary, kind of hard to get on any forumlary when the product is a me too product except we work 45 minutes quicker, why the hell would I sell on price, I dont even mention it, physician would throw me out of his office if he knew what the cost of the product was, patient is the one that finds out the price when he goes to pharmacy and it is not covered, get a clue moron, or better yet watch another sports movie and play us another clip, as the famous quarterback from dallas cowboys said, turn out the lights the party is over

 

[Anonymous]

The party will be over soon. I don't recall seeing it on these boards, but were some key home office positions laid off as well. The type of positions needed only if your company is planning to have a future. Somebody in the know posted the day before the last layoff with very accurate information... if you're out there, will you please shed some light on what we should expect next and when?

 

[Anonymous]

regional manager from the west, y everytime do you post a comeback to someones reply about something that is wrong with the company, they must be recently layed off or fired, you must believe everyone with the exception of the 30 some districts that are doing okay are happy here at this company, me, I am just collecting a paycheck now until my pink slip comes in, not going to bust my ass anymore for what? Kind of wish I did get layed off to collect a severance package also, but I have a feeling xanodyne won't being doing that again, territories that aren't reaching the goal, I'm sure you will start with the pips again and then give us are walking papers, but you are not getting a full day out of me anymore,

 

[Anonymous]

regional manager from the west, y everytime do you post a comeback to someones reply about something that is wrong with the company, they must be recently layed off or fired, you must believe everyone with the exception of the 30 some districts that are doing okay are happy here at this company, me, I am just collecting a paycheck now until my pink slip comes in, not going to bust my ass anymore for what? Kind of wish I did get layed off to collect a severance package also, but I have a feeling xanodyne won't being doing that again, territories that aren't reaching the goal, I'm sure you will start with the pips again and then give us are walking papers, but you are not getting a full day out of me anymore,

ever notice how no one complains about the other 2 Rd's? no wonder the West is doing so bad. well except texas

 

[Anonymous]

ever notice how no one complains about the other 2 Rd's? no wonder the West is doing so bad. well except texas

OMG you are back again! You must be that same person who had a really strange fettish for the West RD. My gosh go away who the freak cares already. I am in another region and guess what I don't work for the RD I work for a DSM. That is all that matters. You are deranged and have a thing at trying to get back at the RD for something. Get over it. You will never move on with anything by harboring so much hate for another person. I have also heard that the new DSM's hired in the West are loved by their reps. I know people in at least one of those districts and they are thrilled to get rid of their old DSM's and get the new one. Who knows maybe you are one of those DSM's that were let go. Move on it is the best thing for your health and then we don't have to read your stupid posts anymore. It's old news...we get it already you hate him. Who cares.....