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anonymous said:
By long tern Teva folks leaving, you mean retire? Certainly they cant expect to land with other companies.
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The lucky ones will retire but others will find another job and that is very doable. Might take extra time, but they can and will find other pharma jobs. It is done by older people every day. Most people have extended networks in the industry, if they have been doing this for a long time.
 






anonymous said:
The lucky ones will retire but others will find another job and that is very doable. Might take extra time, but they can and will find other pharma jobs. It is done by older people every day. Most people have extended networks in the industry, if they have been doing this for a long time.
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And there in lies the key statement, "doing this for a long time". This ain't your father's pharma gig anymore. Age-ism is real and companies are trying to do more with less. Throw in new tele-selling, contact sales forces, inside marketing surveys and virtual detailing and lets just see just how long it will take to land another pharma job like we once knew. The days of field sales reps is shrinking before our eyes and everyone knows it and those "extended networks" you speak of are shrinking as well.
 






anonymous said:
The lucky ones will retire but others will find another job and that is very doable. Might take extra time, but they can and will find other pharma jobs. It is done by older people every day. Most people have extended networks in the industry, if they have been doing this for a long time.
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I was pushed out after over 20 years of solid performance, but I had worked my self to,the point that my salary was higher than my managers. Took an early out and went looking for new opportunities. As you might expect, my years of experience and previous salary became more of a liability than an asset. I searched out a start up organization that needed tenured, experienced reps that already knew how to work and produce results. While early on I had some bitterness, it has worked out for the better. I make more money than previously and the big pharma bureaucracy isn’t there.

My old company tried to break my spirit and had me doubt myself, but I’ve proved that I still had what it takes to be a good rep. Big pharma crusades to run out the senior reps is all about cutting expenses, while at the same time overpaying the upper echelons of management. Lower level management does the juggling act of saving themselves and sacrificing the careers of their reps. I don’t agree with it, but I get it.

Bottom line is if your an older rep being pushed out, don’t lose faith in yourself and use the long term relationships you have to open doors. You can do it!
 






anonymous said:
I was pushed out after over 20 years of solid performance, but I had worked my self to,the point that my salary was higher than my managers. Took an early out and went looking for new opportunities. As you might expect, my years of experience and previous salary became more of a liability than an asset. I searched out a start up organization that needed tenured, experienced reps that already knew how to work and produce results. While early on I had some bitterness, it has worked out for the better. I make more money than previously and the big pharma bureaucracy isn’t there.

My old company tried to break my spirit and had me doubt myself, but I’ve proved that I still had what it takes to be a good rep. Big pharma crusades to run out the senior reps is all about cutting expenses, while at the same time overpaying the upper echelons of management. Lower level management does the juggling act of saving themselves and sacrificing the careers of their reps. I don’t agree with it, but I get it.

Bottom line is if your an older rep being pushed out, don’t lose faith in yourself and use the long term relationships you have to open doors. You can do it!
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Start-up pharma is the way to go. I was in this situation too. Big pharma still thinks pretty little reps sell. Startup pharma is looking for people with a book of business. Startup pharma, in my experience, has been paying bigger salaries than old stuffy pharma anyway. By the beginning of q2 I had multiple offers to choose from, all higher pay and I’m older than dirt.
 






If either of these last 2 posts were by someone 60 or older with 20+ years in pharma, all I can say is bless your heart. But then again....what the hell are you doing? Did you not do a better job saving for retirement?
 






anonymous said:
If either of these last 2 posts were by someone 60 or older with 20+ years in pharma, all I can say is bless your heart. But then again....what the hell are you doing? Did you not do a better job saving for retirement?
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I like what I do. Could quit anytime if I wanted. Net worth of 4.5M. Bless YOUR hearrt, asshole
 










































anonymous said:
Unemployment if they're not careful. Not a lot of openings in pharma right now and think twice if you say the grass is greener elsewhere.
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I would have agreed with the "grass isn't greener" sentiment in the past but this place is more metric obsessed than Pfizer, so almost anything would be better. Life is better where there are actual leaders that don't treat reps like primary care rejects.
 


















Good for you tenured rep, tell that little snotty nosed uppity rep where to stick it. It is no ones business if you are over 60 snd want to continue to work. Assholes like this jerk off rep are the ones you just love seeing Karma bite in the butt.
 






anonymous said:
Get ready to see tons of long term Teva folks leave in the next couple of months.
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Well? Who's making the move to Neurocrine today??? What a nice way to recapture the Teva glory days by working for a former Teva manager in a "new" position! If you're smart, you'll jump for the money and then move on fast.
 












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