Great plan. Times are tough, new skills are required, new challenges lie ahead - lets go with LESS coaching and LESS supervision as the answer. Awesome plan. I wonder why we haven't handed the reins of the entire organization off to you yet. Oh, wait...it must be because you're dumb. Yes, that must be it. Perhaps if you were so awesome at "doing your job", your solution might make a smidgen of sense for the next 3 months. But, being you struggle to do the basic requirements now, that makes you vastly unprepared to sell in the environment 1-2 years from now. But, you think you should just be left alone. Give me a break!
Guessing you think RFT's are valuable.
Actually, the best part is watching DBMs role play at mtgs.....funniest shit EVER.
Biggest assholes in the field to reps are the absolute worst, take note next time.
(PA region is the best example)
--lowly DCS rep
Honestly we could use less managers... the ride days are ridiculous. They are in our territories so much our doctors think we are in trouble..most offices aren't allowing them back anymore..go back to the old days one manager for like 20-30 reps
Nice story but how does that help us right now? Poor management that has kissed their way to the top has got us where we are now. Everyone saw how we needlessly added CDEs, layers and layers of managers AEs and HS reps who have zero access but just how many of these so called leaders spoke up and said this was uncalled for?
It's not that this post has anything to do with what's being discussed here, rather it's a story about how useless managers really are or can be. But karma is in fact a bitch!
In another job at another company not in the pharma industry, I worked for a guy named Joe. Joe was a nice enough guy, but he was also a huge phony/bullshitter, and just about everybody who knew Joe was well aware of his reputation and that he had used those bullshitting skills to get promoted into his management job.
One day, I decided to explain a complex business problem I had encountered to Joe. I made the decision to do that because he would always tell every one who reported to him "I'm here for you. I'll always try to assist you in any way that I can." I initially approached him with this statement; "Joe, I'd like to get your input/advice on a particularly thorny problem I've got." Of course, he responded enthusiastically with "Sure! That's what I'm here for! Shoot!" So after I was done explaining the problem, I said "Joe, what would you recommend I do?"
Joe's response? "I dunno. You're the expert. You tell me."
At a later date, after things had gone all over the floor and shit had really hit the fan with regard to the problem, Joe pulled me into his office and shut the door. I cant begin to tell you how quick he was to point out that "You should have done this, or you could have done that." I said "Yeah Joe, I guess you're right. I could have and should have done such and such. I'm sorry about how things went. And I'd like to thank you for all of your assistance with the problem" and then I walked out of his fucking office.
About three months later there was a layoff and I was gone.... but Joe stayed on to fight another day. That was in 2009. Just last year, I heard that Joe dropped dead of a heart attack... I heard he had it in the very same office I walked out of.
Sorry Joe didn't do your job for you like you had hoped. That's always the fall back of schmucks like you - you go to your manager and say "I can't do my job. Will you do it for me?" When they don't, you call them a bad manager. Good for Joe for letting you fall flat on your face in a job that you apparently had no idea how to do. It's years later, and you still remember what a fuck-up you were in that situation. Thanks for the story - reminds me of how bad the damage can be from a poor hire who needs someone else to do their job for them. Can't say I'm shocked you were laid off. Great lesson!
I never once asked Joe to "do my job"... YOU said that, not me.
It was Joe that reneged on his offer to help.
But I offer you my heartiest congrats! You're obviously as big an asshole of a manager as Joe was.
