Loosing Januvia scripts to EVERYONE!

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Anonymous said:
well you had to know that the dpp-4 window was narrow and is now closing fast. soon it will be like arb's and statins - every company will have one. then the micro increases will go to the best marketers (diovan) most agressive w/mco's (benicar) or most effective (lipitor). Which is all to say - history is not in merck's corner.
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Januvia's Lipitor is coming. Then job security is all but trashed.
 






If you're losing scripts either you're a dumbass or your docs are dumbasses! More studies and information out there on Januvia than anything else coming or going and it's all positive! Just go look at the studies in humans in que right now and look at how the theory came about and you'll wonder why all diabetics (yes doris I said all) are not on Januvia or maybe Januvia and a little kicker! Do your homework asshole and then go out and sell with pride! Either get your head out of the sand or your ass! You don't promote with this stuff but if you know it you will know why everyone should be on it! POS like Galvus and the others don't stand a chance because of safety! Peter Kim earned his money on this one (now if he can only keep it up with CETP) and you should quit bitching!
 












Anonymous said:
If you talk high science Januvia is the product. It makes sense. If you talk money and managed care, then metformin and SFU's look mighty attractive.
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Some rep at our launch meeting in Houston said you can't buy Beta cells at any price..always remembered that quote! Get your customers to remember it!
 






Anonymous said:
Some rep at our launch meeting in Houston said you can't buy Beta cells at any price..always remembered that quote! Get your customers to remember it!
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Did something like that. You can say people are short sighted and too money-driven these days. One physician politely informed me his ultimate goal is to provide for his family and bonus and incentive are important to him. Sigh. Five years from now and with all the beta cells gone, that patient may not be with him anymore with all the changes. Kind of tragic in a way.
 






Anonymous said:
Did something like that. You can say people are short sighted and too money-driven these days. One physician politely informed me his ultimate goal is to provide for his family and bonus and incentive are important to him. Sigh. Five years from now and with all the beta cells gone, that patient may not be with him anymore with all the changes. Kind of tragic in a way.
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Of course his family, bonus and incentives are important to him, why would any doctor put a patient above them?
 






Anonymous said:
Of course his family, bonus and incentives are important to him, why would any doctor put a patient above them?
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Along the same line, why is the saying of George Merck relevant anymore? They should stop showing that "sacred" slide at meetings and admit we no longer subscribe to the silly thought of "...for the people..." anymore and stop pretending. It's kind of self delusional.
 






Anonymous said:
"We don't just test drugs the way we test cars...we use research from experts at the Drug Effectiveness Review Project,,,based in Oregon.
Free Report:www.ConsumerReports Health.org/BestBuyDrugs covers 25 classes of drugs for more than 35 conditions.They show the consumer $100/drug/mos savings.
Generic is the road to savings.
Do you think Merck in these uncertain moments of the future is going to take all of their monies and invest in new drugs?....hell, no!! You better keep some cash for the lawsuits and the TAXES from Oblabla's presidency. Can hardly wait until the big O is gone--2012 election can not come soon enough!!
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How ignorant you sound. No I am not a Obama fan but what the hell does he have to do with all over priced drugs? Stop making someone the skape goat for your issues, and Corporate America greediness, which we all will pay the price for in some form or fashion. Obama, Bush or probably your favorite Palin( air head) is not going to be able to do nothing about the cost of drugs, and job secruity. Do what you can today because no one can or should put their trust in any goverment party that's childish and irresponsible on your part. Better yet, why don't you take your self "entitled" attitude and help someone not as fortunate as you.
 






Anonymous said:
How ignorant you sound. No I am not a Obama fan but what the hell does he have to do with all over priced drugs? Stop making someone the skape goat for your issues, and Corporate America greediness, which we all will pay the price for in some form or fashion. Obama, Bush or probably your favorite Palin( air head) is not going to be able to do nothing about the cost of drugs, and job secruity. Do what you can today because no one can or should put their trust in any goverment party that's childish and irresponsible on your part. Better yet, why don't you take your self "entitled" attitude and help someone not as fortunate as you.
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Who's the airhead here? "...is not going to be able to do nothing" is a double negative. How did you make it through college? And it's "scapegoat", not "skape goat". Your sentence structures are pathetic. Palin beats you hands down. She's a class act, while you are an embarassment. Put your application in to Wal-Mart.
 






Anonymous said:
Along the same line, why is the saying of George Merck relevant anymore? They should stop showing that "sacred" slide at meetings and admit we no longer subscribe to the silly thought of "...for the people..." anymore and stop pretending. It's kind of self delusional.
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There was a time (now more than just a few years ago) where the guiding principle was "do the right thing". Short term set-backs, inconsequential political squirmishes, and situations that might cause embarrassment were deemed secondary to doing the right thing - a la George Merck. You still see some of that attitiude in companies that have a strong founding family presence but rarely do you see it in publicly traded companies that work from quarter to quarter seemingly trying to please analysts. This loss of core value is probably part of the entire malaise that the industry finds itself. The lack of this core value certainly makes it less satisfying to work, for sure. The number of shallow people that have prospered in this industry - and now lead it - is daunting. Anyone trying to do the right thing seems to be a fool and certainly is at a career disadvantage.
 






Anonymous said:
There was a time (now more than just a few years ago) where the guiding principle was "do the right thing". Short term set-backs, inconsequential political skirmishes, and situations that might cause embarrassment were deemed secondary to doing the right thing - a la George Merck. You still see some of that attitude in companies that have a strong founding family presence but rarely do you see it in publicly traded companies that work from quarter to quarter seemingly trying to please analysts. This loss of core value is probably part of the entire malaise that the industry finds itself. The lack of this core value certainly makes it less satisfying to work, for sure. The number of shallow people that have prospered in this industry - and now lead it - is daunting. Anyone trying to do the right thing seems to be a fool and certainly is at a career disadvantage.
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I just read about George Merck as "Man of the Year" in 195 at : http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19520818,00.html

That Merck was like the one I joined years ago. The current one is run by bunch of career self-centered people which look and feel entirely different from the Merck & Co. described in the article from almost 60 years ago.
 






Anonymous said:
I just read about George Merck as "Man of the Year" in 195 at : http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19520818,00.html

That Merck was like the one I joined years ago. The current one is run by bunch of career self-centered people which look and feel entirely different from the Merck & Co. described in the article from almost 60 years ago.
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Cover of Time Magazine - signifying a potent driver in that year's world - but not Man of the Year. It seems that his model was to always drive towards excellence and value for society and in so doing drive the cost of access for drugs and commodity chemicals down. This, in turn, attracted ideas and talent to Merck. And it set the stage for Merck's reputation for more than a generation. But that generation is gone and the past history strategy is to determine how high the cost of access can be made. This strategy has already set the stage for Merck's reputation for the next generation.
 






Anonymous said:
I just read about George Merck as "Man of the Year" in 195 at : http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19520818,00.html

That Merck was like the one I joined years ago. The current one is run by bunch of career self-centered people which look and feel entirely different from the Merck & Co. described in the article from almost 60 years ago.
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Ah yes, but the facts on George Merck are selectively remembered. Who was the person leading the feasibility studies on using biological warfare in WW2? Yup, it was George Merck. Not saying it couldn't be justified in the face of total war, but just remember that George wasn't all sunshine and saving lives......
 






The first thing that came to my mind is, "Where is the classiness we used to have?" Now we are kind of like bunch of monkeys. :-( We no longer hear this statement from physicians anymore which was, "I can always count on or trust you Merck people."
 






Anonymous said:
The first thing that came to my mind is, "Where is the classiness we used to have?" Now we are kind of like bunch of monkeys. :-( We no longer hear this statement from physicians anymore which was, "I can always count on or trust you Merck people."
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So the judge in the OT alwsuit didn't have it all wrong when he equated us to Starbucks baristas? Merck has abused its tradition of claiming superiority in order to use people only to cause them to become embittered. That is undeniable. The question is whether it is any different anywhere else in pharma.
 






Anonymous said:
So the judge in the OT lawsuit didn't have it all wrong when he equated us to Starbucks baristas? Merck has abused its tradition of claiming superiority in order to use people only to cause them to become embittered. That is undeniable. The question is whether it is any different anywhere else in pharma.
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Old farts like myself were brainwashed to be knowledgeable and we studied and read and read. Then we are told recently to forget about the science and that we are not slick enough like the vacuum salesman.
 






























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