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[Anonymous]

Who wants to be a patterson dental Store Manager - Babysitter ?

Apply Now.

Here's How:

tp://jobs.pattersoncompanies.com/us/united-states/management/jobid3924864-branch-manager-san-francisco?apstr=%2526sid%253D39


What happened to the last babysitter ?

I hear the similar position is open in Arizona

 

[Anonymous]

I am interviewing for a position with Patterson and have a few questions. First, the hiring manager mentioned a local branch. As a sales rep do you have to check in at local branch or do you work out of your house? Also, what is the time off like, vacation, sick...? Are the medical benefits good? I'm in pharma now and just curious if dental is similar.

The only good reason a pharma person should take this position is if they are trying to advance their career and move into medical sales. Unfortunately if you stay in pharma too long med device doesn't want to touch you because you aren't enough of a hunter. So if you go to Patterson and combine that with the medical knowledge you will be right for a med device position in the 2-3 years when you are supposed to go off the base plan.

 

[Anonymous]

The only good reason a pharma person should take this position is if they are trying to advance their career and move into medical sales. Unfortunately if you stay in pharma too long med device doesn't want to touch you because you aren't enough of a hunter. So if you go to Patterson and combine that with the medical knowledge you will be right for a med device position in the 2-3 years when you are supposed to go off the base plan.

Best advice on this entire Board. Use this place to get out of a glorified waiter position, grind your balls Off for no money to show you can do it and get a real sales job that pays fat sales commissions!

PDCO is nothing but a stepping stone. The ones that speak different have their reasons,
Most of which are they have no options. Some Choose to Stay but very few. They usually have a connection higher up or smoke good pole!

 

[Anonymous]

Best advice on this entire Board. Use this place to get out of a glorified waiter position, grind your balls Off for no money to show you can do it and get a real sales job that pays fat sales commissions!

PDCO is nothing but a stepping stone. The ones that speak different have their reasons,
Most of which are they have no options. Some Choose to Stay but very few. They usually have a connection higher up or smoke good pole!

If you look at empirical data, that is retention rates after the first year Patterson ranks higher than almost 90% of US pharmaceutical companies. Since mot pharma positions have a pay plan that is based on "pod" selling its very difficult to attribute sales performance to an individual sales person. Of course that means low performers can do very well if their counterparts are strong sales people or are hungry. In most dental companies you are paid on your performance not the performance of the pod and many times this is the reason an individual like the chronic poster here failed. Individual performance, hard rock under difficult competitive conditions is what the previous poster is ,trying to avoid. Young people these days feel as if they are entitled to an easy ride in life. That's not is Patterson is about. He is a career complainer, and they never achieve much or advance on their careers.

 

[Anonymous]

Where are the facts old timer? And it Still doesn't hide the fact that Patterson pays crap! No matter what the tenure.

 

[Anonymous]

Where are the facts old timer? And it Still doesn't hide the fact that Patterson pays crap! No matter what the tenure.

Patterson pays a progressive commission rate - the higher the sales the higher the commission percentage rate. We have people doing anywhere from $2 mil to 7 mill a year in sales. Specialists and territory reps. We are all a team. You failed and regardless of what the pay plan is or was when you sell little to nothing you make little to nothing- regardless of what company you work for you.

 

[Anonymous]

Patterson pays a progressive commission rate - the higher the sales the higher the commission percentage rate. We have people doing anywhere from $2 mil to 7 mill a year in sales. Specialists and territory reps. We are all a team. You failed and regardless of what the pay plan is or was when you sell little to nothing you make little to nothing- regardless of what company you work for you.

Cut the crap already. First of all not all pharma sales are "pods" there are many that are just one person in a territory, there are hospital and speciality reps that are by themselves. I once covered 1/2 an entire state by myself in pharma so don't give me that crap when you haven't even done the job. Also, if a rep is in infectious disease (HIV) or oncology (cancer) then they really are not in a pod. As far as being waiters, that stuff stopped several years ago.

As far as Patterson goes, you can try to dress it up anyway you like it but for the amount of work you put in, the pay off is not worth it. There are many jobs out there that pay better and have better perks so when you put in that amount of work you get so much more out of it. It makes ZERO sense to work harder for the same or less money when you can get more for your efforts. Don't get mad because there are people who are higher educated or have better experience and therefore can leave and you are stuck.

 

[Anonymous]

Cut the crap already. First of all not all pharma sales are "pods" there are many that are just one person in a territory, there are hospital and speciality reps that are by themselves. I once covered 1/2 an entire state by myself in pharma so don't give me that crap when you haven't even done the job. Also, if a rep is in infectious disease (HIV) or oncology (cancer) then they really are not in a pod. As far as being waiters, that stuff stopped several years ago.

As far as Patterson goes, you can try to dress it up anyway you like it but for the amount of work you put in, the pay off is not worth it. There are many jobs out there that pay better and have better perks so when you put in that amount of work you get so much more out of it. It makes ZERO sense to work harder for the same or less money when you can get more for your efforts. Don't get mad because there are people who are higher educated or have better experience and therefore can leave and you are stuck.

BAAAAAZINNNGA!

 

[Anonymous]

Cut the crap already. First of all not all pharma sales are "pods" there are many that are just one person in a territory, there are hospital and speciality reps that are by themselves. I once covered 1/2 an entire state by myself in pharma so don't give me that crap when you haven't even done the job. Also, if a rep is in infectious disease (HIV) or oncology (cancer) then they really are not in a pod. As far as being waiters, that stuff stopped several years ago.

As far as Patterson goes, you can try to dress it up anyway you like it but for the amount of work you put in, the pay off is not worth it. There are many jobs out there that pay better and have better perks so when you put in that amount of work you get so much more out of it. It makes ZERO sense to work harder for the same or less money when you can get more for your efforts. Don't get mad because there are people who are higher educated or have better experience and therefore can leave and you are stuck.

Unfortunately you make one very incorrect assumption, and that assumption is I am a territory rep. This shows how short sighted you are. I put the time in as a territory rep several years ago. Actually took me 6 years to go from territory rep to branch manager of a $20 million branch with 50 employees. Yea I deal with the negative, Patterson sucks, lack of sales ability you show all the time. If you love selling in a pod situation that's great. We don't, we have individual responsibility here. That's not for you. We get stock grants and over the years that has swelled my net worth significantly. I am younger than 33 years old. Where you stand depends on where you sit.

 

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately you make one very incorrect assumption, and that assumption is I am a territory rep. This shows how short sighted you are. I put the time in as a territory rep several years ago. Actually took me 6 years to go from territory rep to branch manager of a $20 million branch with 50 employees. Yea I deal with the negative, Patterson sucks, lack of sales ability you show all the time. If you love selling in a pod situation that's great. We don't, we have individual responsibility here. That's not for you. We get stock grants and over the years that has swelled my net worth significantly. I am younger than 33 years old. Where you stand depends on where you sit.

That's great ! You are under 33 and barely make $100k! Congrats! Sounds like you like the title on your business card more than you like the numbers in your bank account!

But hey, atleast you have your "swelled" head- I mean significant net worth from your incredible stock shares! Get off you high horse- you are a worthless middle management branch manager who babysits spreadsheets all day! Haha. You people are hilarious

 

[Anonymous]

That's great ! You are under 33 and barely make $100k! Congrats! Sounds like you like the title on your business card more than you like the numbers in your bank account!

But hey, atleast you have your "swelled" head- I mean significant net worth from your incredible stock shares! Get off you high horse- you are a worthless middle management branch manager who babysits spreadsheets all day! Haha. You people are hilarious

Do you even work here? Or did you? You obviously don't know too much about the dynamics of a Branch. I'm not the guy above, but I can tell you don't know too much because you are so far off on a couple things..... First, Patterson Branch Managers make WELL over $100K. Like any sales job, there is also a huge upside if their branch performs well. It's not a middle management position either- Branch Managers have a ton of control over their branch, the staff who work there, and they are responsible for the entire P&L of the division- with decision making authority. Not a babysitting job by any means.

Yes, the Territory rep is not easy and it can take quite a long time to see any real money. It is hard work and nothing is given to you. If you put in your dues and can hack it, you will enjoy an income and lifestyle that most would envy. If you can't, you will likely just be sitting here on the board complaining to make yourself feel better and trying to justify your failure.

 

[Anonymous]

Do you even work here? Or did you? You obviously don't know too much about the dynamics of a Branch. I'm not the guy above, but I can tell you don't know too much because you are so far off on a couple things..... First, Patterson Branch Managers make WELL over $100K. Like any sales job, there is also a huge upside if their branch performs well. It's not a middle management position either- Branch Managers have a ton of control over their branch, the staff who work there, and they are responsible for the entire P&L of the division- with decision making authority. Not a babysitting job by any means.

Yes, the Territory rep is not easy and it can take quite a long time to see any real money. It is hard work and nothing is given to you. If you put in your dues and can hack it, you will enjoy an income and lifestyle that most would envy. If you can't, you will likely just be sitting here on the board complaining to make yourself feel better and trying to justify your

Who cares who "works for you" - Your a douche!

 

[Anonymous]

Many Patterson branches do $30 plus million a year in business. The are run like as a separate independent business entity from corporate - completely decentralized. The branch manager is solely responsible for all activities of that entity. Anyone who feels that is a babysitting job is just an idiot, plain and simple idiot. When you manage all HR, P&L, billing, marketing amromotional,activities, inventory and building you in fact running all aspects of a business. Not anything like an unemployed ex Patterson rep who just shoots off his mouth all day As he waits for that weekly direct deposit from the state unemployment office. Branch managers make,no where near $100K jr. Salary is significantly hirer, bennies galore and guess what people from all areas of medical, dental and pharma knocking on your door trying to get you to jump ship for even more dough.
Hope is near dude, Obamacare starts in January at least your get your unemployment dd and some insurance. Get yourself hooked up with SNAP and Section 8 and your pretty much good to go.

 

[Anonymous]

Yes, the Territory rep is not easy and it can take quite a long time to see any real money. It is hard work and nothing is given to you. If you put in your dues and can hack it, you will enjoy an income and lifestyle that most would envy. If you can't, you will likely just be sitting here on the board complaining to make yourself feel better and trying to justify your failure.

So you've already forgotten how hard it was for you to be one of the "lucky ones" after 6 years of slaving to become a BM. Now you're that same BM drinking the PDCO koolaid and sticking it to the new hires and making it almost impossible to succeed. You know you hold their future in your little BM hands and you choose to stick it to them just like your BM stuck it to you 6 years ago.

That's why things never improve for PDCO. Always turnover instead of trusting your own new hires and helping them get on their feet with a couple of decent accounts and a customer list that isn't full of dead weight and long time Schein and Benco loyalists.

 

[Anonymous]

So you've already forgotten how hard it was for you to be one of the "lucky ones" after 6 years of slaving to become a BM. Now you're that same BM drinking the PDCO koolaid and sticking it to the new hires and making it almost impossible to succeed. You know you hold their future in your little BM hands and you choose to stick it to them just like your BM stuck it to you 6 years ago.

That's why things never improve for PDCO. Always turnover instead of trusting your own new hires and helping them get on their feet with a couple of decent accounts and a customer list that isn't full of dead weight and long time Schein and Benco loyalists.

This is why you have a failed career. For what reason would a BM want a Territory Rep to fail? We are all share holders we all get paid on profit why the hell would a BM work in an adversarial position with the TR. you offer no reason a failing TR would benefit a BM or corp.

 

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately you make one very incorrect assumption, and that assumption is I am a territory rep. This shows how short sighted you are. I put the time in as a territory rep several years ago. Actually took me 6 years to go from territory rep to branch manager of a $20 million branch with 50 employees. Yea I deal with the negative, Patterson sucks, lack of sales ability you show all the time. If you love selling in a pod situation that's great. We don't, we have individual responsibility here. That's not for you. We get stock grants and over the years that has swelled my net worth significantly. I am younger than 33 years old. Where you stand depends on where you sit.

When did I say you were a TR? You seem very dense to me though. You didn't see where I said not all Pharma reps work in pods. I started off like that for about two years. Then I went into speciality and hospital. I can pretty much bet that I made as much or more than you do as BM. I also don't have to baby sit a bunch of reps or pull my hair out because of the branch problems. Why would I want all that stress and worry when I make the same or more by myself?

Until you work as a speciality or hospital pharma rep, dont talk.

 

[Anonymous]

When did I say you were a TR? You seem very dense to me though. You didn't see where I said not all Pharma reps work in pods. I started off like that for about two years. Then I went into speciality and hospital. I can pretty much bet that I made as much or more than you do as BM. I also don't have to baby sit a bunch of reps or pull my hair out because of the branch problems. Why would I want all that stress and worry when I make the same or more by myself?

Until you work as a speciality or hospital pharma rep, dont talk.

I'm an outsider working for neither PDCO or pharma. What I do know is that where your pay may be some what in the same ballpark, PDCO gives their employees large chunks of stock every year, 10-18% of the pay. Plus, those stocks pay dividends which you can reinvest. Add that up over a 10 year period and see where that puts the BM, pharma boy. It says a lot about someones character & true intentions when they come on another board to boast about who gets paid the most. You need to read some sales books & learn how to take care of your clients. I would start with an easy one because from what I take from you so far you probably do not care to improve yourself as long as your ba lls are bigger. Try Ziglar Selling 101. True salesmen not money who res

 

[Anonymous]

This is why you have a failed career. For what reason would a BM want a Territory Rep to fail? We are all share holders we all get paid on profit why the hell would a BM work in an adversarial position with the TR. you offer no reason a failing TR would benefit a BM or corp.

I don't have a failed career. You must be talking about someone else.

As for PDCO's management style, you are honestly going to tell me that you don't put new hires at a HUGE disadvantage giving them the scraps of your branch? What is the average sales of the "customer" list you give your new hires? The fact you agree that it is ok to have one rep with $7mil and a new hire $200k is mindblowing.

All you care about is the bottom line, you've already said that. So it is in your best interest to keep your old timers happy and if you get lucky to find that new hire diamond who can grow his shit list into $1 mil you make extra bonus while he gets scraps and a $2 mil goal for the next year or he's gone.

SHITTY business model.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm an outsider working for neither PDCO or pharma. What I do know is that where your pay may be some what in the same ballpark, PDCO gives their employees large chunks of stock every year, 10-18% of the pay. Plus, those stocks pay dividends which you can reinvest. Add that up over a 10 year period and see where that puts the BM, pharma boy. It says a lot about someones character & true intentions when they come on another board to boast about who gets paid the most. You need to read some sales books & learn how to take care of your clients. I would start with an easy one because from what I take from you so far you probably do not care to improve yourself as long as your ba lls are bigger. Try Ziglar Selling 101. True salesmen not money who res

You aren't just an outsider you are a moron. How do you know that pharma and biotech companies don't give stock to their employees either? I worked for two companies that were start ups that gave me plenty of stock options. Who are you people? Complete idiotic morons I tell you.

I've read sales books and I've read ZigZiglar as well as seen him in person 3 times. Him along with Tom Hopkins and others.

Go sit down and don't post, you just stuck your big fat foot in your mouth.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't have a failed career. You must be talking about someone else.

As for PDCO's management style, you are honestly going to tell me that you don't put new hires at a HUGE disadvantage giving them the scraps of your branch? What is the average sales of the "customer" list you give your new hires? The fact you agree that it is ok to have one rep with $7mil and a new hire $200k is mindblowing.

All you care about is the bottom line, you've already said that. So it is in your best interest to keep your old timers happy and if you get lucky to find that new hire diamond who can grow his shit list into $1 mil you make extra bonus while he gets scraps and a $2 mil goal for the next year or he's gone.

SHITTY business model.

A new TR at Patterson is at a serious disadvantage if they get a scratch territory with no buying accounts.

Think about it, at training Jim said that 20% of a list are PDCO customers, the next 60% are gray and go either way. The bottom 20% are never going to do business with Patterson. So given that formula, don't you think that the house accounts used to make up a scratch territory are comprised of the 20% that people threw back over the years who aren't going to do business with PDCO that Jim talked about? It doesn't take too much to figure out that you are pretty much doomed for failure unless the BM throws you some accounts from reps who leave or you poach your own some how.