Joe Jiminez fired several Managers for misconduct...Who and why ?

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Breaking news on the financial wires claim that Joe fired several Managers after recent visits to their local markets and witnessing professional misconduct. WHAT ?

Ouch,,,that has got to hurt their resumes, don't ya think ?

It is reported that good 'ol Joe sent out a very terse memo to all 10,000 employees....It would be great if someone could post that here.
 






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Breaking news on the financial wires claim that Joe fired several Managers after recent visits to their local markets and witnessing professional misconduct. WHAT ?

Ouch,,,that has got to hurt their resumes, don't ya think ?

It is reported that good 'ol Joe sent out a very terse memo to all 10,000 employees....It would be great if someone could post that here.
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The PR grandstanding is just pathetic............Novartis was happy to look the other way for years while all this unethical conduct was considered business as usual. The pendulum might actually be swinging in the right direction but for years there were employees who spoke up and tried to right the wrongs only to be fired or managed out. I guess Novartis only feels compelled to act once there is some external pressure applied.
 






If you have seen any managers at any level retire early you can bet they either were told to do so or knew they were dirty and had to jump ship. Screw the reps if they get caught but managers get away with murder.
 






Now just might be the time to start submitting all that saved materials and reporting your managers for wrongful treatments! Its one thin to manage but yet another to abuse the power of control. Watch out, you may be next!
 






If you have not read the Whistleblowers and BPO threads then do it and you'll have your answer what this is about. Brief translation of Joe's speak: the fired ones were not fired for doing the misconduct but for doing it wrong. They allowed for somene to collect evidence, who in trurndid the thing they supposed to by Novartis' codes of conduct, report it to management internally. The canning of managers is just scapegoating to blame it on someone while the whole thing is covered up. The pendulum has not swung and it never will, for doing the misconduct has been and will be part of this Co's biz culture and will contnue in new and improved ways.
And it was not done (it never is ) by rogue manager(s) but under orders and by planning. Once and for all, the misconduct your co uses as part of its business approach (MO) and it will never give it up unless those involved start getting some jail time on top of the fines they pay. The $422M fine paid recently did not involve any criminal charge but only an agreement to pay the fine without even admitting aything was done wrong. Funny though the document Novartis signed calls for them nover to do it again. Isn't that fucking crazy. You do not admit you did wrong but agree never to do it again.
So tell us Joe who were the ones that did not do anything wrong but admitted they did it wrong so they had to be canned.And they say "there is no business like show business". Guess they never worked in this one.
 






The Wall Street Journal reported that Joe Jiminez sent out a company wide memorandum that was "strongly worded" about who was recently let go and why...and also a "warning" that all future misconduct would not be tolerated.

Did a letter really go out to all of you? If so, please cut and paste it right here on CafePharma.
 






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The Wall Street Journal reported that Joe Jiminez sent out a company wide memorandum that was "strongly worded" about who was recently let go and why...and also a "warning" that all future misconduct would not be tolerated.

Did a letter really go out to all of you? If so, please cut and paste it right here on CafePharma.
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We can not cut and paste anything from Novartis computers. We can only get onto cafe pharma with personal computers where they are not blocked from viewing this and many other deemed sights Big Pharma Novartis wants.

Thank you!
 












Anonymous said:
We can not cut and paste anything from Novartis computers. We can only get onto cafe pharma with personal computers where they are not blocked from viewing this and many other deemed sights Big Pharma Novartis wants.

Thank you!
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You can cut and paste to g-mail .yahoo mail or whatever then you can cut/paste again on another computer to CP!
 












Does anyone have any actual information about what happened? Who was let go? How many were let go? What were the "violations"? How about what countries were involved? Anything?!
 












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Does anyone have any actual information about what happened? Who was let go? How many were let go? What were the "violations"? How about what countries were involved? Anything?!
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What are the "violations"? We may never know but what ever they are they are not ONLY unethical they are also illegal, criminal and immoral at least. So in other words someone committed some kind of crime ON THE BEHALF of Novartis NOT AGAINST it. And that is what "unethical misconduct" is all about. It is planned, approved and implemented by the management and if things go wrong in such a way that this crime becomes obvious and/or exposed in some way, this is what you have. Cover up in which some of the shit is announced by someone on the management food chain. The bibgger the crime the higher up the announcer is. So to have Joe do this means the crime is bigtime and they are very lucky that it was not taken outside the Co. However this is still possible if the evidence of the crime is in the hands of potential whistleblower(s) who may decide to do the right thing and start qui-tam against the Co as those 3 brave WBs did last year.
If they are smart this is what they must do and again get this Co fined big time. Maybe after number of these we'll have them close to honest that they claim they are now. Big lie is what Joe said. All they do deny, lie, deny, lie .....when they don't practice OMERTA as they most often do. For Joe to come forward something unusual must have happened so he had no choice but to. Otherwise you'd never heard from him or anyone else about this one.
 






Sooo ... that's a no? No, we have no idea what happened?

I think we all get that it's unethical, etc but some of us want real information! How about what countries were involved? That's a good start!
 












Anonymous said:
The Wall Street Journal reported that Joe Jiminez sent out a company wide memorandum that was "strongly worded" about who was recently let go and why...and also a "warning" that all future misconduct would not be tolerated.

Did a letter really go out to all of you? If so, please cut and paste it right here on CafePharma.
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it was actually first reported on pharmalot, which has a link to joe's memo -

http://www.pharmalot.com/2011/05/novartis-fires-senior-managers-for-ethical-misconduct/
 






Anonymous said:
it was actually first reported on pharmalot, which has a link to joe's memo -

http://www.pharmalot.com/2011/05/novartis-fires-senior-managers-for-ethical-misconduct/
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Great memo. The whole thing smells to me like there is a Federal investigation going on.
I assume he is not commenting on the daily little harassment here and there.
Do you think it will be enough to chop off some useful idiots' heads and then say 'well, this was the past, there were different people in charge, we took action, now it's all different and together we should all look forward'? May give you a little breathing space or 100B discount in fines, but it's not going to cure the root cause. Just Swiss business with ketchup as a side dish.
 


















J.J.

If you think sacraficing a few lambs will mitigate the damage, you are wrong.

Too many people are in the know, it will leak.

Trying to act ethically NOW does not exempt you from years of previous crimes.


I'm sure you guys and gals in the Basel In-house legal team are pretty relieved at the judge's decision on the GSK Steven's case.

Maybe next time the defendent will not find such a cooperative judge

;)
 






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