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It was the Amy V Show

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What a company! A year after Genentech’s number one launch and it became all about her. That quick, very rehearsed, drop of the head with the fake tear was about everyone could take as we all think about the decent jobs we left and sacrificed to get here and may not have a job in July. Then of course the DM from California, in usual fashion, had to brown nose and stand up to lead a standing ovation. Most were completely turned off and didn’t want to stand. It’s anazing these rehearsed speeches with the Teleprompters etc, that anyone can believe that was genuine. You know what a rap leader would do? “I’m going to stick it out here for the good of the franchise as they need a solid laser here.” Let’s be very clear. This was Amy’s decision and she wanted to be a DM. They offered her a lot of $ to do it as well. And like most here at Genentech, it’s all about yourself and getting ahead and trying to beat everyone else to the punch in volunteering for everything. Out of all the companies, I have never seen a company more about SELF-PROMOTION and climbing the ladder to get more prominent positions regardless the cost. It is all about “I” here and nothing about “we.” Have I have kids and a hospice mother in law to take care of while worry whether or not I will have a job when they feel like telling us. You don’t think leadership knows? They know. This meeting was the poorest excuse of a meeting and if you truly made the survey anonymous, you would get a handful. The survey isn’t and is tracked.
 


















anonymous said:
Really a shame...the new GNE has arrived and Art wouldn't know the place. Just another self-serving Big Pharma.
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You have that right. It’s so very sad. Words can’t describe. I was horrified by what people told me at this meeting. They will never get an accurate survey about this complete mess of a meeting because people do not want retaliation for their feedback!!!!!! This was a complete shit show. Besides Amy, there are so many people that should be ashamed of themselves in how they act in this franchise. There are reps that will trample over others to get what they want. I hear a woman was fired due to some cutthroat coworkers wanting her territory. I trust not one person in my division. Not a single person. I agree with the poster, this franchise is filled with venomous snakes. From the outside, Genentech seemed like the holy grail. In reality, it is filled with complete fake people that will take your ideas and sell them as their own. It’s an environment where only the extreme suck ups make it to the top. If you kiss ass and are willing to move to California, you will get promoted. Not because you are great at what you do, it’s because you kiss ass embarrassingly well and will do anything to get promoted. This toxic environment breeds this kind of behavior. It’s who can make the loudest noise and gain the most attention.
 






anonymous said:
You have that right. It’s so very sad. Words can’t describe. I was horrified by what people told me at this meeting. They will never get an accurate survey about this complete mess of a meeting because people do not want retaliation for their feedback!!!!!! This was a complete shit show. Besides Amy, there are so many people that should be ashamed of themselves in how they act in this franchise. There are reps that will trample over others to get what they want. I hear a woman was fired due to some cutthroat coworkers wanting her territory. I trust not one person in my division. Not a single person. I agree with the poster, this franchise is filled with venomous snakes. From the outside, Genentech seemed like the holy grail. In reality, it is filled with complete fake people that will take your ideas and sell them as their own. It’s an environment where only the extreme suck ups make it to the top. If you kiss ass and are willing to move to California, you will get promoted. Not because you are great at what you do, it’s because you kiss ass embarrassingly well and will do anything to get promoted. This toxic environment breeds this kind of behavior. It’s who can make the loudest noise and gain the most attention.
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Exactly why so many quality people have left and more heading for the door. The Dark Side has control.
 






How can they in good conscience keep everyone hanging like this for weeks to months? They have created a toxic work environment and also have the nerve to call us family? My family needs to know. If jobs are on the line, they need to let us know.
 


















anonymous said:
You have that right. It’s so very sad. Words can’t describe. I was horrified by what people told me at this meeting. They will never get an accurate survey about this complete mess of a meeting because people do not want retaliation for their feedback!!!!!! This was a complete shit show. Besides Amy, there are so many people that should be ashamed of themselves in how they act in this franchise. There are reps that will trample over others to get what they want. I hear a woman was fired due to some cutthroat coworkers wanting her territory. I trust not one person in my division. Not a single person. I agree with the poster, this franchise is filled with venomous snakes. From the outside, Genentech seemed like the holy grail. In reality, it is filled with complete fake people that will take your ideas and sell them as their own. It’s an environment where only the extreme suck ups make it to the top. If you kiss ass and are willing to move to California, you will get promoted. Not because you are great at what you do, it’s because you kiss ass embarrassingly well and will do anything to get promoted. This toxic environment breeds this kind of behavior. It’s who can make the loudest noise and gain the most attention.
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Its time to put the blame where it belongs at the NSD level and above. Name names if you expect change to happen. Report them on the 800 ethics line. The Swiss want to know and love firing Americans. Work the system against them.
 












Im so glad I saw this thread. That rehearsed speech Amy gave was a complete emotional buzzkill for me. I was so upset the rest of the meeting. She doesn’t have a clue what a normal person goes through and the emotional roller coaster they put us through. This company has more money than God, yet they can’t guarantee people will have their jobs. I could care less that she is leaving and going to Sweden with her over inflated salary but her lack of any real compassion really showed through. I’m so disappointed in this company and they are not doing the right thing at all.
 






Totally agree with many of the comments in this thread. I really thought Genentech was different, but after this meeting it has become quite obvious that they are nothing special, and are now just another cut throat Big Pharma Company. I am really questioning why I left my previous company now that the true values of this company are being revealed during “transformation”.

I am considering checking with my attorney to investigate a potential law suit depending on the “July Announcement”. I wonder if the geniuses in our legal department know about emotional distress? Hostile work environment? Bias?

Lastly in regards to the character of some of the employees in this franchise. I was raised to be respectful, humble, courteous, and to exhibit great work ethic. I have found that a number of the people in this franchise that are on about every committee possible are the true cut throats. A number of them were with Genentech prior to the Ocrevus start up hiring. I too have pulled back after granting trust to many, and will not from this point on. I am talented and have been successful during my whole career, but have been totally disrespected since I got here due to being an older white guy in a company obsessed with political correctness. I made a mistake believing this company and the people here were different. Now I anxiously await my fate for the next couple of months..if I don’t have a breakdown prior to July.
 






anonymous said:
Totally agree with many of the comments in this thread. I really thought Genentech was different, but after this meeting it has become quite obvious that they are nothing special, and are now just another cut throat Big Pharma Company. I am really questioning why I left my previous company now that the true values of this company are being revealed during “transformation”.

I am considering checking with my attorney to investigate a potential law suit depending on the “July Announcement”. I wonder if the geniuses in our legal department know about emotional distress? Hostile work environment? Bias?

Lastly in regards to the character of some of the employees in this franchise. I was raised to be respectful, humble, courteous, and to exhibit great work ethic. I have found that a number of the people in this franchise that are on about every committee possible are the true cut throats. A number of them were with Genentech prior to the Ocrevus start up hiring. I too have pulled back after granting trust to many, and will not from this point on. I am talented and have been successful during my whole career, but have been totally disrespected since I got here due to being an older white guy in a company obsessed with political correctness. I made a mistake believing this company and the people here were different. Now I anxiously await my fate for the next couple of months..if I don’t have a breakdown prior to July.
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So well said and I agree. Someone once described Genentech as the company to aspire to be a part of. I just don’t see it. I’m with you regarding the attorney as they have put me in a tailspin of anxiety.
 






Speaking as a veteran GNE rep for over 15 years I am saddened to see how far this company has fallen. Very sorry for those of you who left other companies believing the 'stories of old' about GNE. That company no longer exists. Good luck.
 






I think many of us that came over were sold a bill of goods about Genentech. It had a reputation as the best company around. My experience is also like many of the above experiences. What troubles me is many of us seem to have been used by the company simply for the launch of Ocrevus. We were all the top of the class at our old companies and proven performers. It’s like a bait and switch type situation. It’s sad that now that Ocrevus is the most successful launch in Genentech history, and has put a billion dollars in the bank, we are now simply disposable. I really feel for the people like one of the posters above that came over, and not only was discriminated against because of his demographic, but also those that recieved low volume barely viable territories. I would think they all may have cause for litigation. Sad that this company talks about values and family and acts like we are simply mercenaries.
Genentech please think about the many lives you are destroying, and cut the bs about putting people/patients first. We aren’t buying it.
 






anonymous said:
I think many of us that came over were sold a bill of goods about Genentech. It had a reputation as the best company around. My experience is also like many of the above experiences. What troubles me is many of us seem to have been used by the company simply for the launch of Ocrevus. We were all the top of the class at our old companies and proven performers. It’s like a bait and switch type situation. It’s sad that now that Ocrevus is the most successful launch in Genentech history, and has put a billion dollars in the bank, we are now simply disposable. I really feel for the people like one of the posters above that came over, and not only was discriminated against because of his demographic, but also those that recieved low volume barely viable territories. I would think they all may have cause for litigation. Sad that this company talks about values and family and acts like we are simply mercenaries.
Genentech please think about the many lives you are destroying, and cut the bs about putting people/patients first. We aren’t buying it.
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You are nothing more than a pawn on a chess board. You are the sacrificial lamb. There to take the hit on the front line in order for the king/queen (Amy V) to march over your dead pawn body to succeed, prosper and win. Remember, in order to win, you only need to be the last one standing. Amy V thanks all of her sacrificial little pawns. No move out of her way as she sprints over the victory line. Soon, you will be discarded.
 












anonymous said:
What a company! A year after Genentech’s number one launch and it became all about her. That quick, very rehearsed, drop of the head with the fake tear was about everyone could take as we all think about the decent jobs we left and sacrificed to get here and may not have a job in July. Then of course the DM from California, in usual fashion, had to brown nose and stand up to lead a standing ovation. Most were completely turned off and didn’t want to stand. It’s anazing these rehearsed speeches with the Teleprompters etc, that anyone can believe that was genuine. You know what a rap leader would do? “I’m going to stick it out here for the good of the franchise as they need a solid laser here.” Let’s be very clear. This was Amy’s decision and she wanted to be a DM. They offered her a lot of $ to do it as well. And like most here at Genentech, it’s all about yourself and getting ahead and trying to beat everyone else to the punch in volunteering for everything. Out of all the companies, I have never seen a company more about SELF-PROMOTION and climbing the ladder to get more prominent positions regardless the cost. It is all about “I” here and nothing about “we.” Have I have kids and a hospice mother in law to take care of while worry whether or not I will have a job when they feel like telling us. You don’t think leadership knows? They know. This meeting was the poorest excuse of a meeting and if you truly made the survey anonymous, you would get a handful. The survey isn’t and is tracked.
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You do know they bring them in 2 days early just to work with a coach and rehearse their lines. Everything here is fake. It is SSF.
 












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