All I hear is that there’s lots of politics, game playing by managers and lots of turnover. Worse than other places. For jobs at the Jersey site.
BS or not? Scared to apply but heard pay is good.
Yes, it is true. If you are not accustomed to lie, kiss up to managers and be their weapon in their dirty deeds to frame the associates who are not part of their click, do not bother to apply. You will have no life or have a disgusting one.They will get rid of you the second they suspect you are not one of them. Pay is good but you will pay with your health and conciosness. You will either sell your soul or you will be out. Think long and hard before you apply. Good luck!
Yes, it is true. If you are not accustomed to lie, kiss up to managers and be their weapon in their dirty deeds to frame the associates who are not part of their click, do not bother to apply. You will have no life or have a disgusting one.They will get rid of you the second they suspect you are not one of them. Pay is good but you will pay with your health and conciosness. You will either sell your soul or you will be out. Think long and hard before you apply. Good luck!
Omg. Right on. I am in medical, and all I can say is you nailed it with your impression. I have seen lots of silly politics and reorgs at many previous companies, but this place is like no other.I'd wait for something better to come before going there. Heard it hasn't changed since 2015 when I checked out.
The place basically goes from periods of awful to periods of just barely tolerable. And everything affects morale. Whether it is going from one crazy CMO to another or the influx of the international Novartis people who all think they are so great until they realize they are not or the marketing teams that keep being rehashed or the constant propaganda that claims that they care about you so much that you have to bother with all sorts of silly career documents that no one reads or makes use of or the reorganizations and general shuffles that go on or the budget management BS where they tell you to go go go and then the money, where is the money... And it all happens constantly and only like that there.
It also is a place that screws with your head as we all saw the vindictive leadership periodically culling out the people that should be kept on because the management is too paranoid and everyone has to pretend it makes sense when it makes no sense at all. A lot of people living with their cowardly selves.
The biggest improvement leaving? More stable. Less assholes.
Yep one messed up dysfunctional company. They treat the sales force like shit because they fu_cked up. The beatings will continue until the moral improves !!!Omg. Right on. I am in medical, and all I can say is you nailed it with your impression. I have seen lots of silly politics and reorgs at many previous companies, but this place is like no other.
I'd wait for something better to come before going there. Heard it hasn't changed since 2015 when I checked out.
The place basically goes from periods of awful to periods of just barely tolerable. And everything affects morale. Whether it is going from one crazy CMO to another or the influx of the international Novartis people who all think they are so great until they realize they are not or the marketing teams that keep being rehashed or the constant propaganda that claims that they care about you so much that you have to bother with all sorts of silly career documents that no one reads or makes use of or the reorganizations and general shuffles that go on or the budget management BS where they tell you to go go go and then the money, where is the money... And it all happens constantly and only like that there.
It also is a place that screws with your head as we all saw the vindictive leadership periodically culling out the people that should be kept on because the management is too paranoid and everyone has to pretend it makes sense when it makes no sense at all. A lot of people living with their cowardly selves.
The biggest improvement leaving? More stable. Less assholes.
The above is good. There are so many reasons not to be near NVS. Here is another, the NUMBERS, The numbers are a joke yet you will be having important conversations w/ your ABL concerning them in addition your bonus is allegedly based on them. However the bonus structure is a whole other issue that someone else can address. Getting back to these numbers , they randomly change! But yet your ABL will want to have serious conversations about your territory numbers. I mean this stuff is twilight zone material. Everyone knows the numbers are bogus yet the conversations keep coming!
NVS places you into Groups, at the end of ever TRIMESTER your Group changes. Basically everyone has a time at the TOP / MIDDLE / BOTTOM as you progress through these Trimesters. So if you wait long enough, a few months your ranking is going to completely change to either better or worse. There is no need to stress out over it except that the ABLS talk to you as if the rankings are constant, so there is needless anxiety over a bizarre conversation that is going to happen in the near future. It's the luck of the Group you are in at the time.
If you ever talk to an NVS employee and they tell you that they have constantly high rankings and win Presidents Club award every year, It's BS!!!! Totally made up!! I met one ABL that said in a 19 year career he won 17 Presidents Club!!! Seriously in any other company that person should be Promoted directly to the top! Basically it didn't happen, it's all BS Smoke and Mirrors.
Firstly, this thread is about home office personnel, not field sales. Secondly, your info regarding "groups" is WAY old. That hasn't been the case in a couple of years. Thirdly, I know who you are and you SERIOUSLY need to move on with your life. Stop looking back and try looking forward for once. Stop dwelling on the past. Sorry your huge ego was hurt but get over it already.
I'd wait for something better to come before going there. Heard it hasn't changed since 2015 when I checked out.
The place basically goes from periods of awful to periods of just barely tolerable. And everything affects morale. Whether it is going from one crazy CMO to another or the influx of the international Novartis people who all think they are so great until they realize they are not or the marketing teams that keep being rehashed or the constant propaganda that claims that they care about you so much that you have to bother with all sorts of silly career documents that no one reads or makes use of or the reorganizations and general shuffles that go on or the budget management BS where they tell you to go go go and then the money, where is the money... And it all happens constantly and only like that there.
It also is a place that screws with your head as we all saw the vindictive leadership periodically culling out the people that should be kept on because the management is too paranoid and everyone has to pretend it makes sense when it makes no sense at all. A lot of people living with their cowardly selves.
The biggest improvement leaving? More stable. Less assholes.
Does the CV division even have anyone working in marketing ? Don't think they do seriously. Where's the auto ship of the holiday piece ? What brainless numbscull came up with a sealed blank white envelope for one of the best resources in our bag ?I'm there now and it's the same as when you were there!
CV division currently:t he blind leading the blind pretty much sums up marketing & senior mgtJust about Everyone who was there in medical has either left or if stil there is wanting to go. Not good. Over a short cycle. The left overs? Be afraid of them.
Compliance is BS. CMO is a joke. Death by meetings. Too tight with $. Don’t dare to say what you think. Expect your best colleagues to switch and go elsewhere. Churn. Marketing uses medical to blame for their problems. Political issues and turf issues are rampant. Very little trust.
