Inconsiderate of Shire to make employees travel/work on the sabbath

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The poster regarding being a single parent has a valid point and it's understandable. As is the person with religious beliefs. However, with the whining I've been hearing aroind Sunday travel I'm not getting the impression they are the exception not the rule. Most people just feel pissed for having to work or travel outside of their cushy 9-5 M-F job. And my counter to that is this shouldnt be considered that type of job. We are salaried employees is Sales. I've often done work outside of the 9-5 time frame. We do not punch a clock people and will be asked to do extras from time to time. I don't have an issue with it because it's also the exception and not the rule. I also realize as sales people we do have a some flexibility to get something done during the day that most people do not. Don't act all holier than thou and claim you've never done something personal on company time. So sick it up buttercup, put your big boy/girl panties on and do your job!
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With all the time wasted today we could have easily flew in on Monday and covered the exact same amount of material. You want to really save money KK? How about we skip all the BS night events and long breaks. Take your Vyvanse and stay focused. Work 8-5 M-Th. give us the standard per Diem for dinner on our own and you could save lots of money including a extra night hotel.

This is a time management issue. There is no reason to work weekends or nights other than the occasional dinner program. This is an easy job. If you are working outside 8-5 you are in the wrong business or work for a complete moron.
 






Anonymous said:
With all the time wasted today we could have easily flew in on Monday and covered the exact same amount of material. You want to really save money KK? How about we skip all the BS night events and long breaks. Take your Vyvanse and stay focused. Work 8-5 M-Th. give us the standard per Diem for dinner on our own and you could save lots of money including a extra night hotel.

This is a time management issue. There is no reason to work weekends or nights other than the occasional dinner program. This is an easy job. If you are working outside 8-5 you are in the wrong business or work for a complete moron.
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I liked and needed those breaks. I didn't even mind flying in on Sunday. The reception should have been optional as well as the nightly events. Everyone learns and prepares differently. I need 8-9 hours of sleep and like to be in bed by 8 to be regenerated for the next work day. I don't drink and don't like to feel forced into bar situations. I am engaged during the meetings and put forth 100%. I network effectively throughout the meeting and many people will recognize my face if not know my name accross the nation. These meetings are set up so that you are judged if you don't have the stamina for a 3 hour dinner every night. I think that should change. Let those that want to party...party and those that like to workout or otherwise regenerate. Do that. I think you will find the meeting will be much more exciting for everyone and people may not care as much about giving up their Sunday.
 






Anonymous said:
I liked and needed those breaks. I didn't even mind flying in on Sunday. The reception should have been optional as well as the nightly events. Everyone learns and prepares differently. I need 8-9 hours of sleep and like to be in bed by 8 to be regenerated for the next work day. I don't drink and don't like to feel forced into bar situations. I am engaged during the meetings and put forth 100%. I network effectively throughout the meeting and many people will recognize my face if not know my name accross the nation. These meetings are set up so that you are judged if you don't have the stamina for a 3 hour dinner every night. I think that should change. Let those that want to party...party and those that like to workout or otherwise regenerate. Do that. I think you will find the meeting will be much more exciting for everyone and people may not care as much about giving up their Sunday.
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If you like to be in bed by 8, then why you posting at 1:18?
 






^^^^^this!!! Great point. I honestly didn't mind the Sunday travel and expect these meetings to being days etc... But these breaks are way too long. With better planning and 15-20 minute breaks instead of an hour break we could have flown in Monday morning. Or, we could at least have a 9am start or earlier finish. I'd be willing to have shorter breaks in order to be able to either work out, call family etc.... Before meetings or evening dinners. Pretty poor time management by these guys.
 












Anonymous said:
^^^^^this!!! Great point. I honestly didn't mind the Sunday travel and expect these meetings to being days etc... But these breaks are way too long. With better planning and 15-20 minute breaks instead of an hour break we could have flown in Monday morning. Or, we could at least have a 9am start or earlier finish. I'd be willing to have shorter breaks in order to be able to either work out, call family etc.... Before meetings or evening dinners. Pretty poor time management by these guys.
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Agree. We have wasted at least 1/2 a day. Worst planning of a meeting in Shire history for me.
 






Anonymous said:
Agree. We have wasted at least 1/2 a day. Worst planning of a meeting in Shire history for me.
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You have to understand. In Kathy's world, it's not about giving you break time or even about the content of the meeting. It's all about the fact that we now start at 8 and roll through 5:30 every day. At least CES would build time in at end of the day so if we finished early, we finished early>>>go have fun! Not in this world anymore.
 






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You have to understand. In Kathy's world, it's not about giving you break time or even about the content of the meeting. It's all about the fact that we now start at 8 and roll through 5:30 every day. At least CES would build time in at end of the day so if we finished early, we finished early>>>go have fun! Not in this world anymore.
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How long ago was it that everyone was on here complaining about CES and her meetings, style, etc...?
That doesn't seem so bad now.
 






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How long ago was it that everyone was on here complaining about CES and her meetings, style, etc...?
That doesn't seem so bad now.
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At least CES had the backs of the sales force. Although je won't admit it, PS has thrown the sales force under the bus several times in front of senior leadership. He did this to show that Kobe was needed. She honestly believes she needs to "fix" this sales team. Imagine that! Ironically she has fucked it up!
 










































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No why are you? Say what you will, but CES was a normal person who cared about the sales force. That is a stark contrast from this flat-affected, Aspergers suffering, robot with daddy issues!
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I don't disagree with your assessment of the current leader, but that doesn't make CES any better. You obviously didn't see/hear her attitude towards the sales force. She was awful.
 






























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