I wonder how serious these guys are in building a sales force

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I've gone back and forth with a hiring manager recently. Kinda feels like they posturing -- going through the motions to show they are making efforts to build a sales organization around Xtampza, but in the background they are shopping the company around to sell it to another pain focused pharma (i.e. Purdue, Endo, Teva, Depomed).

Anyone else get this feeling going through this hiring process?
 






I've gone back and forth with a hiring manager recently. Kinda feels like they posturing -- going through the motions to show they are making efforts to build a sales organization around Xtampza, but in the background they are shopping the company around to sell it to another pain focused pharma (i.e. Purdue, Endo, Teva, Depomed).

Anyone else get this feeling going through this hiring process?
 






I've gone back and forth with a hiring manager recently. Kinda feels like they posturing -- going through the motions to show they are making efforts to build a sales organization around Xtampza, but in the background they are shopping the company around to sell it to another pain focused pharma (i.e. Purdue, Endo, Teva, Depomed).

Anyone else get this feeling going through this hiring process?
Very much so! Kinda strange! It's been one thing after another! I've been talking withe recruiter or hiring manager since the first week in December!
 






You actually have a point. The manager I interviewed with in Chicago stated that without a salesforce on paper, that the company can't proceed. I kind of scared to give my notice to my previous company. I don't want to give up a good job for a job that is shaky. The managers are very skeptical themselves. Most of them needed jobs so it was the next best thing. Sure they are looking too while going through this circus building. They don't want to pay anything and hackle about your car amount. Not sure if I want to go on……. Please help if you know anything.
 






One sales trainer and we were told at the town hall meeting before interviews that those that came on board first would fill in to do the need to do items. They aren't hiring an internal team at all. I am not resigning from my job. I'm just playing the game. Not sure what to do when the deadline comes. Not stable at all….
 


















One sales trainer and we were told at the town hall meeting before interviews that those that came on board first would fill in to do the need to do items. They aren't hiring an internal team at all. I am not resigning from my job. I'm just playing the game. Not sure what to do when the deadline comes. Not stable at all….
It's a start up. Risk and perceived instability are just part of the deal and much of this commercial scale up is being done on the fly and probably on the cheap. But don't kid yourself. Senior management is most definitely crunching the numbers a few more times before they pull the trigger on committing to a large number of reps in the field. Could very well be scaling this back a bit. Always easier to ramp up than ramp down.
 






Understandable. Perhaps I am looking into the feeling that i got WAY too much.
Nonetheless, sounds like a great opportunity. Congrats!

I too got a great impression in Chicago...from the people I met, to the townhall meeting and the managers I interviewed with. I also took the position and feel great about this move over. Any company in Pharma can get bought out, but that would be great for my stock in that company then. I learned a long time ago you can't worry about that in this industry. And I'm looking forward to the bonus money I can make here (2X target). My soon to be manager is great too.
 






It's a start up. Risk and perceived instability are just part of the deal and much of this commercial scale up is being done on the fly and probably on the cheap. But don't kid yourself. Senior management is most definitely crunching the numbers a few more times before they pull the trigger on committing to a large number of reps in the field. Could very well be scaling this back a bit. Always easier to ramp up than ramp down.

Startups are a rare thing these days and often=opportunity, career growth, stock options, and the ability to be known/recognized by everyone in the company. 12,000 applicants, 50 hired in Chicago. If you can embrace change and want opportunity then this might be the place.
 












Startups are a rare thing these days and often=opportunity, career growth, stock options, and the ability to be known/recognized by everyone in the company. 12,000 applicants, 50 hired in Chicago. If you can embrace change and want opportunity then this might be the place.
Well said! Please tell me about the Chicago interviews. I plan to interview the first week of April. Thank you.
 






Not much to tell you about Chicago. Interviews with your manager and another interview with another manager or the Area Sales Director. STAR format questions for everybody. They debrief afterwards and decide who they want.
 






Well said! Please tell me about the Chicago interviews. I plan to interview the first week of April. Thank you.

Interviews were pretty pressure free in my opinion. Everyone was friendly, typical STAR questions you would expect in this industry, interview with 2 individuals then your manager. You'll hear back in a week. You may be going up against one other person interviewing for the same territory.
 






Interviews were pretty pressure free in my opinion. Everyone was friendly, typical STAR questions you would expect in this industry, interview with 2 individuals then your manager. You'll hear back in a week. You may be going up against one other person interviewing for the same territory.
Thank you
 












Startups are a rare thing these days and often=opportunity, career growth, stock options, and the ability to be known/recognized by everyone in the company. 12,000 applicants, 50 hired in Chicago. If you can embrace change and want opportunity then this might be the place.


There wasn't 12k applicants who applied for this job...unless you are counting those that don't have pharma experience without a job. The recruiters have been in a panic to try and get people to come on board. Most people who take the risk to join this company are doing just that. It may pay off big...but it is a risk. Only have 1 product that is in a very competitive market. If you haven't sold a scheduled product then its a whole different animal. Weigh out all options, but be realistic about the opportunity. They could hire top talent if they would be willing to pay a higher salary and offer better benefits. That's the reason it has taken over 5-6 months just to possibly fill some territories. Then the dates have been pushed back due to legal constraints over patent infringement and litigation. The only thing I would say is that you need to be open to embracing change like OP stated...bc the first year will be very tough in launch mode with managed markets/access/cost. Personally, this wasn't a good fit for me and I turned down the offer, but the reward may just outweigh all the risks if stock rises and product does well. Good luck to all and God Bless!
 






There wasn't 12k applicants who applied for this job...unless you are counting those that don't have pharma experience without a job. The recruiters have been in a panic to try and get people to come on board. Most people who take the risk to join this company are doing just that. It may pay off big...but it is a risk. Only have 1 product that is in a very competitive market. If you haven't sold a scheduled product then its a whole different animal. Weigh out all options, but be realistic about the opportunity. They could hire top talent if they would be willing to pay a higher salary and offer better benefits. That's the reason it has taken over 5-6 months just to possibly fill some territories. Then the dates have been pushed back due to legal constraints over patent infringement and litigation. The only thing I would say is that you need to be open to embracing change like OP stated...bc the first year will be very tough in launch mode with managed markets/access/cost. Personally, this wasn't a good fit for me and I turned down the offer, but the reward may just outweigh all the risks if stock rises and product does well. Good luck to all and God Bless!