I sat by a lake today...

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and just stared outside the window of my Taurus thinking about nothingness. I then entered my fake call notes and drove away towards my home at 1:30PM.

"I enter a call, therefore I was there"
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today some companies have their (field) employee issued electronic devices (and/or company cars) send time stamped GPS location data (unbeknownst to the field employee) which get washed thru a program to compare it to what the rep reports for that time/day
 






anonymous said:
today some companies have their (field) employee issued electronic devices (and/or company cars) send time stamped GPS location data (unbeknownst to the field employee) which get washed thru a program to compare it to what the rep reports for that time/day
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Yup, yet the idiots continue to brag about the all day lie & sitting by lake. Have no one but themselves to blame if AZ follows others with this. I can see it now. A group of HR people do nothing but analyze call entry. If it shows a regular occurrence of BS calls, the call goes out to the DSM with instructions on termination. No deal, no nothing.
 






Anonymous said:
These jobs are about taking a lot of money to put up with total bullshit and then lie your ass off and glad hand to keep them. There is not one thing valuable about being a pharma rep except for the samples and vouches. Please spare me the "we save lives" story. All of these drugs have their studies designed to "win." Very few are novel and most could have been replaced by the patient living a better and healthier life early on in life. . . not to mention choosing organic and filtering your water.

I worked in pharma for 17 years. It was a great run and I was able to get out of debt, own a home and have some nice stuff. It definitely improved my family's quality of life. Over time, the job just became mind numbing, management more and more out of touch, (No, pharma does NOT give a shit about patients! - LMAO), and who needs three reps with the same message calling on 50 doctors? Really?

If you find yourself sinking into a hole of depression, if you are sitting in the parking lot or by the lake faking calls all day and hate yourself for doing it, if you crave being valuable again, give up the money and come back to the workforce. I got a new job and pretty much said just that: "I have to give up pharma and need a real job with hard work, complex problems and real selling or I am not going to make it." They hired me on the spot. I am busy. I am happy. I am not sitting by the lake counting the days until layoff or until I get caught faking calls.
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This post is over 4.5 years old and still hits the nail on the head. Even more today with access getting worse and worse every day.
 






anonymous said:
today some companies have their (field) employee issued electronic devices (and/or company cars) send time stamped GPS location data (unbeknownst to the field employee) which get washed thru a program to compare it to what the rep reports for that time/day
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Let me tell you how bad this career has become because of all of this. Over 50-70% of the offices are closed to Reps in 2019. If any rep, because of this drives to an office and sits in their car for 20-25 minutes because the office will not see reps to make the appearance that they were at the office what does that say about your existence as a contributing adult to society? The job is pathetic, their is no way to do it correctly and not lie or fudge in 2019 and it's been this way for years and years. So, the ALL DAY LIE exists because it has too. DMs are in on it too because they did it when they were Reps. If DMs dared to look hard,100% of the Reps would be found to be living the lie. RMs ditto. There are NO secrets out there concerning the job, it's a pay check of lies and fudge. If that is anyone's definition of a career I feel sorry for all.
 












anonymous said:
Let me tell you how bad this career has become because of all of this. Over 50-70% of the offices are closed to Reps in 2019. If any rep, because of this drives to an office and sits in their car for 20-25 minutes because the office will not see reps to make the appearance that they were at the office what does that say about your existence as a contributing adult to society? The job is pathetic, their is no way to do it correctly and not lie or fudge in 2019 and it's been this way for years and years. So, the ALL DAY LIE exists because it has too. DMs are in on it too because they did it when they were Reps. If DMs dared to look hard,100% of the Reps would be found to be living the lie. RMs ditto. There are NO secrets out there concerning the job, it's a pay check of lies and fudge. If that is anyone's definition of a career I feel sorry for all.
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you are 100% correct on everything you say. I long ago came to the same conclusion. However I'm over 40 and know I can't duplicate my 100K plus salary anywhere else. So I play the game. I give them the metrics that they ask for. I show a positive attitude at meetings. I talk business all the time when with the DM. I get my paperwork in on time. I never lie on my expense report. I never leave my house late or come home early. I hide in my territory in places like starbucks or Panera. It's all a game. I'm not proud but I came to the conclusion years ago this is just a job. A very well paying job with lots of freedom. I gain personal satisfaction with things outside of work. My volunteer activities and stuff with my family. If I wanted to save the world I'd join the peacecorps or be a social worker. Screw that...this is just a job and I couldn't care less about a career. I'm happy and at peace unfortunately you're not.
 












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you are 100% correct on everything you say. I long ago came to the same conclusion. However I'm over 40 and know I can't duplicate my 100K plus salary anywhere else. So I play the game. I give them the metrics that they ask for. I show a positive attitude at meetings. I talk business all the time when with the DM. I get my paperwork in on time. I never lie on my expense report. I never leave my house late or come home early. I hide in my territory in places like starbucks or Panera. It's all a game. I'm not proud but I came to the conclusion years ago this is just a job. A very well paying job with lots of freedom. I gain personal satisfaction with things outside of work. My volunteer activities and stuff with my family. If I wanted to save the world I'd join the peacecorps or be a social worker. Screw that...this is just a job and I couldn't care less about a career. I'm happy and at peace unfortunately you're not.
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Very well said. If you've been here more than 2 years and don't like this work and have half a brain you have two options....One...get out of pharma sales and get a real job or number 2.....follow the advice above. It's that simple....those reps that hate their job and still hang around and complain are idiots.
 












anonymous said:
today some companies have their (field) employee issued electronic devices (and/or company cars) send time stamped GPS location data (unbeknownst to the field employee) which get washed thru a program to compare it to what the rep reports for that time/day
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Yeah, no. This would be completely illegal for the company to track the rep's location WITHOUT their knowledge since we pay for a portion of our vehicles and they are permitted for personal usage by the rep and or their spouse. That would be a huge invasion of privacy to do it without the reps knowledge. What if they take their company vehicle on a vacation day to a swingers club or titty bar?! none of az's business. If az made the reps sign a disclosure or something that said they would be tracking them then that would be a different story.
 






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Yeah, no. This would be completely illegal for the company to track the rep's location WITHOUT their knowledge since we pay for a portion of our vehicles and they are permitted for personal usage by the rep and or their spouse. That would be a huge invasion of privacy to do it without the reps knowledge. What if they take their company vehicle on a vacation day to a swingers club or titty bar?! none of az's business. If az made the reps sign a disclosure or something that said they would be tracking them then that would be a different story.
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You have a law degree? I doubt it. What you say is horseshit.
 
























i took a nap by a lake yesterday. Parked in a shady spot & I put the drivers seat all the way back & turned the AC as cold as it would go. The low vibration & hum of the car running created the perfect white noise to take a nap to. I noticed There was a lithe coyote decoy by the lake, probably to keep the geese out. Geese shit so much. All that goose shit can really wreck the tranquility of the environment that the lake provides. There happened to be an office building located in that same park, which conveniently of my targeted doctors works in. I didn’t go in though, I thought my time would be better spent taking a nap. It was 2:12 when I put my seat back & closed my eyes. My phone buzzed around 2:48, which roused me enough to turn it off & go back to sleep. I awoke again around 3:15 & decided I hadn’t slept long enough so I closed my eyes for another 15 mins. Awoke at 3:30 feeling quite rested. I logged my doctor call, along with a couple of pharmacy calls and drove home for the day. Thought of this thread. Anywho, I gotta back to fake work. I’m heading to Joann’s fabrics for now & then then maybe Marshall’s, or idk Bath n Body Works if I’m feelin it.
 






anonymous said:
you are 100% correct on everything you say. I long ago came to the same conclusion. However I'm over 40 and know I can't duplicate my 100K plus salary anywhere else. So I play the game. I give them the metrics that they ask for. I show a positive attitude at meetings. I talk business all the time when with the DM. I get my paperwork in on time. I never lie on my expense report. I never leave my house late or come home early. I hide in my territory in places like starbucks or Panera. It's all a game. I'm not proud but I came to the conclusion years ago this is just a job. A very well paying job with lots of freedom. I gain personal satisfaction with things outside of work. My volunteer activities and stuff with my family. If I wanted to save the world I'd join the peacecorps or be a social worker. Screw that...this is just a job and I couldn't care less about a career. I'm happy and at peace unfortunately you're not.
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So you’re a thief....
 






anonymous said:
i took a nap by a lake yesterday. Parked in a shady spot & I put the drivers seat all the way back & turned the AC as cold as it would go. The low vibration & hum of the car running created the perfect white noise to take a nap to. I noticed There was a lithe coyote decoy by the lake, probably to keep the geese out. Geese shit so much. All that goose shit can really wreck the tranquility of the environment that the lake provides. There happened to be an office building located in that same park, which conveniently of my targeted doctors works in. I didn’t go in though, I thought my time would be better spent taking a nap. It was 2:12 when I put my seat back & closed my eyes. My phone buzzed around 2:48, which roused me enough to turn it off & go back to sleep. I awoke again around 3:15 & decided I hadn’t slept long enough so I closed my eyes for another 15 mins. Awoke at 3:30 feeling quite rested. I logged my doctor call, along with a couple of pharmacy calls and drove home for the day. Thought of this thread. Anywho, I gotta back to fake work. I’m heading to Joann’s fabrics for now & then then maybe Marshall’s, or idk Bath n Body Works if I’m feelin it.
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anonymous said:
i took a nap by a lake yesterday. Parked in a shady spot & I put the drivers seat all the way back & turned the AC as cold as it would go. The low vibration & hum of the car running created the perfect white noise to take a nap to. I noticed There was a lithe coyote decoy by the lake, probably to keep the geese out. Geese shit so much. All that goose shit can really wreck the tranquility of the environment that the lake provides. There happened to be an office building located in that same park, which conveniently of my targeted doctors works in. I didn’t go in though, I thought my time would be better spent taking a nap. It was 2:12 when I put my seat back & closed my eyes. My phone buzzed around 2:48, which roused me enough to turn it off & go back to sleep. I awoke again around 3:15 & decided I hadn’t slept long enough so I closed my eyes for another 15 mins. Awoke at 3:30 feeling quite rested. I logged my doctor call, along with a couple of pharmacy calls and drove home for the day. Thought of this thread. Anywho, I gotta back to fake work. I’m heading to Joann’s fabrics for now & then then maybe Marshall’s, or idk Bath n Body Works if I’m feelin it.
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You can tell a guy wrote this & then said they were going to JoAnn Fabrics to try to throw us off.
 






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