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The test questions at the end of each module? You will never see any of those questions again. Ever. So memorizing those is wasting your time. You need to focus on concepts. Some small nit-picky things were asked, and others weren't- I felt it was very random. I studied so hard 12-14 hours for 14 days, felt unprepared going into it, but made a 99. So even if you feel unprepared, as long as you tried your best, you are okay. Make posters of concepts, hang them over your house and your hotel room so you burn them into your brain. When you get to Princeton you will be shocked at how many people have "the questions" and the "answers" - and how many are wrong on both accounts. Ignore them, and stay in your room and study on your own Sunday night. Believe in yourself. Don't get lost in the weeds. You can do this, I promise!
 












I was just in your shoes 15 months ago and I have to tell you...it was truly a challenging test... When they say know EVERY thing in the modules hey mean it...I studied from 7am-9pm with short break for meals mon-Sunday ...I had a diabetes background from my previous job and the test really makes you think and APPLY what you know, not just spit out random facts... We had nurses in our training class that struggled with the test... Approx 70% passed the first time ... Only 4 people didn't pass the 2nd time and the guy I helped was just an ago rant jerk who thought he'd never need to know this stuff so why study it ...he ultimately was fired .... The thing is, you will use this knowledge in the field not just on the test... It's refreshing to be at a company that doesn't rely on its saleforce to just spit out a canned message, we have educated conversations with our physicians and they do hold us above many of the other pharma reps because of the value we bring ... So study and really learn ALL the info ... And then enjoy all the perks of working for such a great company. Good luck!
 




Oh yes, please remember boys and girls that the physicians are counting on you to tell them what to prescribe. They wait with baited breath for your arrival to their clinic, and you will get undivided attention from them, as they will hang on every word that you utter.

You truly are their source for medical information!
 




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I was just in your shoes 15 months ago and I have to tell you...it was truly a challenging test... When they say know EVERY thing in the modules hey mean it...I studied from 7am-9pm with short break for meals mon-Sunday ...I had a diabetes background from my previous job and the test really makes you think and APPLY what you know, not just spit out random facts... We had nurses in our training class that struggled with the test... Approx 70% passed the first time ... Only 4 people didn't pass the 2nd time and the guy I helped was just an ago rant jerk who thought he'd never need to know this stuff so why study it ...he ultimately was fired .... The thing is, you will use this knowledge in the field not just on the test... It's refreshing to be at a company that doesn't rely on its saleforce to just spit out a canned message, we have educated conversations with our physicians and they do hold us above many of the other pharma reps because of the value we bring ... So study and really learn ALL the info ... And then enjoy all the perks of working for such a great company. Good luck!
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Ya lost us on those last few sentences. We DO work for a great company, of that I am proud. Other than that, the last few sentences are just wrong. For new DCA or DCS to think that docs want to have an educated conversation with them is misleading, at best. Docs know that we are payed to move drug, and that we can not go off of a tightly regulated script (using Madison Avenue agency stuff approved by our PRB). Value in that?
 




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I was just in your shoes 15 months ago and I have to tell you...it was truly a challenging test... When they say know EVERY thing in the modules hey mean it...I studied from 7am-9pm with short break for meals mon-Sunday ...I had a diabetes background from my previous job and the test really makes you think and APPLY what you know, not just spit out random facts... We had nurses in our training class that struggled with the test... Approx 70% passed the first time ... Only 4 people didn't pass the 2nd time and the guy I helped was just an ago rant jerk who thought he'd never need to know this stuff so why study it ...he ultimately was fired .... The thing is, you will use this knowledge in the field not just on the test... It's refreshing to be at a company that doesn't rely on its saleforce to just spit out a canned message, we have educated conversations with our physicians and they do hold us above many of the other pharma reps because of the value we bring ... So study and really learn ALL the info ... And then enjoy all the perks of working for such a great company. Good luck!
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Educated conversations? Are you kidding me? You must be on crack. You show up and throw up a message that is on TV commercials now. My partners all just get signatures for samples and leave. I hated it so bad that I quit after a short period of time. You don't sell here. I am a sales person. The test is not what you use in the field. Just read the modules and hope for the best. I did great and just read through most of the modules. I ran out of time and couldn't get through all of them. You will hate this job, so you should just fail it to get out early instead of being miserable here. I had to take my son to the doctor because my wife couldn't take off work. My manager acted fake like everything was fine. When I gave my notice to quit, he held it against me.
 




A lot of the info you won't use in the field, but you will be surprised what you will. And for those not having good conversations, it's usually about asking the right questions. And granted, this usually happens at lunch and not every lunch, but I have had some interesting discussions. Not as many as when I sold Valtrex, but still...
 




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A lot of the info you won't use in the field, but you will be surprised what you will. And for those not having good conversations, it's usually about asking the right questions. And granted, this usually happens at lunch and not every lunch, but I have had some interesting discussions. Not as many as when I sold Valtrex, but still...
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Thank you for a breath of fresh air! All of this pap about how we help save lives by providing life saving medical information cracks me up! I have done my share of field rides over my time here, and the overwhelming majority of what I see and experience are quick and dirty stand up presentations while waiting for a signature. As you mentioned some lunches are real opportunities to ask probing open ended questions, but those types of lunches are decreasing in frequency in our part of the world.
But hey, I like what I do and it sure sounds better during shmooze time at happy hour than "5 or 6 times a day I sit around for half an hour and wait for a signature and the chance to sell a drug thats been out for awhile. And more good news: a few more times during the week, someone from my team comes behind me and does the same thing to the same office".
 




Anonymous said:
I was just in your shoes 15 months ago and I have to tell you...it was truly a challenging test... When they say know EVERY thing in the modules hey mean it...I studied from 7am-9pm with short break for meals mon-Sunday ...I had a diabetes background from my previous job and the test really makes you think and APPLY what you know, not just spit out random facts... We had nurses in our training class that struggled with the test... Approx 70% passed the first time ... Only 4 people didn't pass the 2nd time and the guy I helped was just an ago rant jerk who thought he'd never need to know this stuff so why study it ...he ultimately was fired .... The thing is, you will use this knowledge in the field not just on the test... It's refreshing to be at a company that doesn't rely on its saleforce to just spit out a canned message, we have educated conversations with our physicians and they do hold us above many of the other pharma reps because of the value we bring ... So study and really learn ALL the info ... And then enjoy all the perks of working for such a great company. Good luck!
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Your full of it, everyone in my group passed the test...it was VERY easy
But yes it is a great company with awesome benefits! Made close to six figures, company car, part time work and did the nasty with hot married rep and some young morsel coeds at sales meetings, wrote off bar tab as well...life couldn't be better
 




Agh test tomorrow. I didn't memorize ANYTHIng, but I read and understood everything. Hopefully this is enough to pass, I'm pretty good at remembering material as I read.
 




Anonymous said:
Your full of it, everyone in my group passed the test...it was VERY easy
But yes it is a great company with awesome benefits! Made close to six figures, company car, part time work and did the nasty with hot married rep and some young morsel coeds at sales meetings, wrote off bar tab as well...life couldn't be better
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Livin large for little. NNI forever homeboy!
 




I passed. Was fairly easy. Just general knowledge stuff. Some people made 50s and 60s. I guess they didn't even crack open the book. I'm sure they will do fine after studying hardcore this week.
 








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I passed. Was fairly easy. Just general knowledge stuff. Some people made 50s and 60s. I guess they didn't even crack open the book. I'm sure they will do fine after studying hardcore this week.
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I can't believe they give people multiple chances! You shouldn't get second and third chances to pass a test-if you can't pass the first time you don't deserve to be here. This is why some of our teammates are idiots.
 




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