I probably don’t have to explain my post title to many. Here three months and already feel overwhelmed by communication, compliance, lack of explanations, lack of support and more expected than can be completed in any given day. I expected so much more from this company but having just started, cannot wait to put in some time and get the hell out. Nothing like wanting to find a career home but feeling like you’re constantly looking over your shoulder.
Here three months and already hate it.
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Yep. Welcome to Lilly. Just wait until you find out how political the awards & promotions are.
We had about 15% of the sales force leave over the past 1.5 year.
My advice. Do no more than the minimum required. 8.5 calls, spend your budget & go home.
Bonus is laughable & depends on how your district performs so why try very hard
We had about 15% of the sales force leave over the past 1.5 year.
My advice. Do no more than the minimum required. 8.5 calls, spend your budget & go home.
Bonus is laughable & depends on how your district performs so why try very hard
Best advice is to create or work on useless projects. By doing this it will get “your name out”. Give them exactly +10_% of the matrix of the day they are monitoring. If you’re in the unlucky position of having a female millennial manager never and I mean never push back. It hurts their sensibilities and your life will be miserable. If your a straight male. Start looking. You have no chance at moving up and promotion is darn near impossible. It’s not a bad company if you can get past the wokeness, lower pay and bonus then most companies and little or no room to grow or move.
This x 100.
If you get promoted to a higher position then they don’t pay you any more base salary.
White males are at a huge disadvantage. Females get the promotions & awards. Don’t believe me? Sit back and watch at the end of the year.
Useless projects is the definition of Lilly lol. What a joke. Talk about wasting time. I’ve seen people make it a second full time job just being in worthless projects. Don’t waste your time there.
If they ask for 8.5 calls a day then give them 9.5. Spend your budget. Smile & act happy on team calls & you’ll most likely have a job for life.
Lilly sucks at selling. It’s like they try not to be good at it. Even if you’re an amazing sales person then you can only control $3k of your bonus per month. And that BEFORE taxes. Most reps aren’t getting out of bed for that until 11 AM lol.
Get ready to feel frustrated ALL the time!
If you get promoted to a higher position then they don’t pay you any more base salary.
White males are at a huge disadvantage. Females get the promotions & awards. Don’t believe me? Sit back and watch at the end of the year.
Useless projects is the definition of Lilly lol. What a joke. Talk about wasting time. I’ve seen people make it a second full time job just being in worthless projects. Don’t waste your time there.
If they ask for 8.5 calls a day then give them 9.5. Spend your budget. Smile & act happy on team calls & you’ll most likely have a job for life.
Lilly sucks at selling. It’s like they try not to be good at it. Even if you’re an amazing sales person then you can only control $3k of your bonus per month. And that BEFORE taxes. Most reps aren’t getting out of bed for that until 11 AM lol.
Get ready to feel frustrated ALL the time!
Wait a minute, I thought this was such a great job with a company car, $150k a year, get to work out at the gym from 2:30 to 5:00, then hit the tanning bed to prep for the next company-sponsored trip to a great destination.
It sounds like that is not the case.
Well, the good news is that the world could always use more Realtors or Insurance Agents.
It sounds like that is not the case.
Well, the good news is that the world could always use more Realtors or Insurance Agents.
No you wait a minute!!!! Very few and I mean very few Lilly reps make $150k. With cell control and the conference calls/ project meetings very few chances to get done before 4. Tanning for company meetings that ended prior to Covid and they were a hot mess anyways. As far as the realtor comment goes. Most Lilly reps are the hardest working and most diligent reps around. Other then the agism (ecp) and wokeness this used to be a great company. Dave ricks made it clear that he didn’t believe reps mattered. So before you jump on you soapbox. Actually get to know what’s really going on at lilly
This post sounds like it could be made by any number of reps I know, not just new starts. More reps than I can count are looking to get out at the first/best opportunity. I’ve had a few pharma gigs over many years and this is by far the worst.
Yeah, it’s tough to pretend like we don’t know what’s going to happen sooner or later when we are primarily co-promoting an 8 year old product with 4 other reps.. Had I known upfront I had so many counterparts, I would have politely declined.
I concur. No wonder there’s been so much attrition here.
The only people in worse shake than PC3 is Neuro Spec but at least they don’t run in to 4-5 co/promote partners in offices
Same. Additionally I have an asshat (new) manager. What a shit show.
No better in immunology! Nothing like selling a 6 year old drug and being told you and your counterpart must conduct 4 p2p’s each quarter! Didn’t pharma stop doing this 100 years ago… come on Lilly if you want to play with the big boys you need to get more creative
I hope the exodus continues and is impactful enough to wake this company the hell up.
This place is a nightmare. Sell your soul to the devils but you have a family to feed so you’re stuck. I don’t see any evidence of upper management really knowing what it’s like in the field these days. Looking to get out of this absolute Toxic Environment.
I’ve been here a while and it has its ups and downs. I came from a corporate culture before here and I’m telling you - it’s a hell of a lot worse out there.
The OP and s probably DBU. No matter where you’re working here there’s a lot of discontent but the PC3 people I hear from are definitely taking it right up the ass. We’ve had a culture problem that is worsening in that division but we all feel it. Hang on if you can, better even to leave when you can.
I started at Lilly in 2014 as a diabetes sales rep. The pay was a joke, but my manager was amazing and we won the team quota trips for the next 4 years but by the last year, they were basically nothing and that was the year they were taken away. I left in 2018 so I don’t know if they were brought back or not. Anyway, it was nice for 1 year at Lilly. Great boss, great trip, nice car (it matters..sorry and they are not free) easy to work for Lilly. Year 2? Boss went to home office, and Lilly turned into a shit show. Every nice thing we had was going to be taken away. We got a new regional director who was cheating on his wife while she was home with their very sick newborn, and he was such an asshole. Everything about the job started to suck and by 2018, I had left. Get out while you can.