GOP Debate

[Rocknwolf]

Here's an early take, I think Romney did OK, but the rest of the analysis is spot on. Bawwkmann is done, as is Cain and Santorum. The best thing for Obama is if Perry wins the nomination. He is walking, talking proof that a mind is a terrible thing to waste. His opposition to science and education will guarantee he will lose to Obama.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-gop-debate

 

[libluvsbukkake]

Here's an early take, I think Romney did OK, but the rest of the analysis is spot on. Bawwkmann is done, as is Cain and Santorum. The best thing for Obama is if Perry wins the nomination. He is walking, talking proof that a mind is a terrible thing to waste. His opposition to science and education will guarantee he will lose to Obama.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-gop-debate

Yes the Coward and Chief has had zero gaffes in his 3 years as Community Organizer and Chief. What new ground will he break tomorrow during his TelePrompTer reading?

 

[ThisIsYorCaptnSpkng]

Here's an early take, I think Romney did OK, but the rest of the analysis is spot on. Bawwkmann is done, as is Cain and Santorum. The best thing for Obama is if Perry wins the nomination. He is walking, talking proof that a mind is a terrible thing to waste. His opposition to science and education will guarantee he will lose to Obama.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-gop-debate

Yeah, Obama's record on science and education will be a winning strategy.

Solar, anyone. AGW, anyone.

Come to think of it, what the hell does Obama have to run on that people really give a shit about? Osama capture is cool, but it doesn't feed the family.

 

[Breakingnews]

Yeah, Obama's record on science and education will be a winning strategy.

Solar, anyone. AGW, anyone.

Come to think of it, what the hell does Obama have to run on that people really give a shit about? Osama capture is cool, but it doesn't feed the family.

Caer to actually comment on the OP, which is the GOP debate?

I know the repbublican field is weak and there may not be much to comment on, so you turn to your usual changing the subject tactics and attempt to make the thread yet another one of your lame attacks on President Obama.

 

[ThisIsYorCaptnSpkng]

Caer to actually comment on the OP, which is the GOP debate?

I know the repbublican field is weak and there may not be much to comment on, so you turn to your usual changing the subject tactics and attempt to make the thread yet another one of your lame attacks on President Obama.

Ummm, your guy RockHead, brought up Obama which made comments on him fair game. In due time when we see who the candidate is. Meanwhile it's a lot of wasted air. What we do know though is who your candidate is, and you have to admit, he is really easy pickings.

 

[RockificationSpacification]

Here's an early take, I think Romney did OK, but the rest of the analysis is spot on. Bawwkmann is done, as is Cain and Santorum. The best thing for Obama is if Perry wins the nomination. He is walking, talking proof that a mind is a terrible thing to waste. His opposition to science and education will guarantee he will lose to Obama.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-gop-debate

Hmmm - didn't seem to stop Gore from running did it? I mean he seems to oppose science and education, right?

 

[Breakingnews]

Huntsman was the best candidate on the stage last night, hands down.

Romney held his own against Perry and, in reality, it is now a two man race between them.

MFAS's candidate, Michelle Bachmann will soon take her 6% support and 'pack it in' - That is in reference to her candidacy of course.

 

[Doc Who]

Here's an early take, I think Romney did OK, but the rest of the analysis is spot on. Bawwkmann is done, as is Cain and Santorum. The best thing for Obama is if Perry wins the nomination. He is walking, talking proof that a mind is a terrible thing to waste. His opposition to science and education will guarantee he will lose to Obama.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-gop-debate

I hate to post this but, I said the same thing about BU$H. He could never get elected. Boy was I wrong. Now we are suffering from it. The country is right of center the way I see it. Americans would rather focus on religion or Dancing with the stars than science.

 

[Vagitarian]

Yeah, Obama's record on science and education will be a winning strategy.

Solar, anyone. AGW, anyone.

Come to think of it, what the hell does Obama have to run on that people really give a shit about? Osama capture is cool, but it doesn't feed the family.

I'm afraid it isn't going to be what a candidate believes in this time around, it's going to be what he doesn't believe in.

Rick Perry thinks Social Security is a failure? What's his plan? As someone who has paid Social Security taxes for 40 years, I guaran-damned-tee you he'd better come up with a damned good replacement plan. Our current plan may suck (or is it the way we keep borrowing/stealing money from it?) but he sounds like the kind of wing nut who would end it abruptly causing even more misery to us millions of seniors that have been forced to work it into our projected retirement incomes.

 

[Rocknwolf]

Huntsman was the best candidate on the stage last night, hands down.

Romney held his own against Perry and, in reality, it is now a two man race between them.

MFAS's candidate, Michelle Bachmann will soon take her 6% support and 'pack it in' - That is in reference to her candidacy of course.

Here is a breakdown of the biggest losers/liars from last night Like the gold ad, "These guys are bad"

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-perry-romney-twist-records-debate-021556685.html

 

[Man For All Seasons]

I'm afraid it isn't going to be what a candidate believes in this time around, it's going to be what he doesn't believe in.

Rick Perry thinks Social Security is a failure? What's his plan? As someone who has paid Social Security taxes for 40 years, I guaran-damned-tee you he'd better come up with a damned good replacement plan. Our current plan may suck (or is it the way we keep borrowing/stealing money from it?) but he sounds like the kind of wing nut who would end it abruptly causing even more misery to us millions of seniors that have been forced to work it into our projected retirement incomes.

You are truly deranged. Can you process and understand anything? You completely misrepresent Perry on SS, but then you continually misrepresent my positions, so I guess it's a bad habit with you.

 

[Man For All Seasons]

Huntsman was the best candidate on the stage last night, hands down.

Romney held his own against Perry and, in reality, it is now a two man race between them.

MFAS's candidate, Michelle Bachmann will soon take her 6% support and 'pack it in' - That is in reference to her candidacy of course.

As usual, you have things completely wrong.

Huntsman and Paul were clearly the worst of the lot.

Everyone else was very strong.

Bachmann had a great debate performance and is still a very viable candidate. That said the one thing you are probably correct about is that it PROBABLY is a two man race - Perry vs Romney. But it ain't over yet and by many measures, last night's debate performance being one, Bachmann is still very much viable.

 

[Man For All Seasons]

Here's an early take, I think Romney did OK, but the rest of the analysis is spot on. Bawwkmann is done, as is Cain and Santorum. The best thing for Obama is if Perry wins the nomination. He is walking, talking proof that a mind is a terrible thing to waste. His opposition to science and education will guarantee he will lose to Obama.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/rick-perry-gop-debate

Again, you are completely delusional.

Perry is not opposed to science and education. He is right on science and education.

He is right on the facts and he is right in terms of public opinion.

Perry, should he get the nomination, will beat Obama.

 

[jasmin]

As usual, you have things completely wrong.

Huntsman and Paul were clearly the worst of the lot.

Everyone else was very strong.

Bachmann had a great debate performance and is still a very viable candidate. That said the one thing you are probably correct about is that it PROBABLY is a two man race - Perry vs Romney. But it ain't over yet and by many measures, last night's debate performance being one, Bachmann is still very much viable.

I'm not a Bachman fan but you can't miss the media preference for Perry as almost every question from Williams was directed to him, with Romney getting a nod now and then.

 

[I Love America]

I'm afraid it isn't going to be what a candidate believes in this time around, it's going to be what he doesn't believe in.

Rick Perry thinks Social Security is a failure? What's his plan? As someone who has paid Social Security taxes for 40 years, I guaran-damned-tee you he'd better come up with a damned good replacement plan. Our current plan may suck (or is it the way we keep borrowing/stealing money from it?) but he sounds like the kind of wing nut who would end it abruptly causing even more misery to us millions of seniors that have been forced to work it into our projected retirement incomes.

Perry was dead on nut right about Social Security being a Ponzi scheme. Everyone knows is but he is the only one who has the balls to tell the truth about it.

I don't blame you for feeling the way you feel about it, but the bottom line is the government fucked us all over and it started the day FDR created the program. Yes, when LBJ decided to move the SS trust fund into the general treasury, it hastened its demise, but it was always on a slow train to ruin. Remember, the first person that ever received a check didn't pay much into it. So it was a Ponzi scheme from the get go. People don't like hearing that. And they can claim that it was "so successful", but it doesn't change the facts.

And now the system will implode. Either we take steps to fix it now or it goes tits up.

People can say what they want about Bush, but he tried to fix it and got shot down.

Math is math. And the math says that there aren't enough people to support paying out the promised benefits. So who gets fucked over? You? Me? Your kids? Your grandkids?

So all of the baby boomers can cling to their "I paid in and I want it" but they just need to know that they are fucking over their kids and grandkids.

That is why I have basically given up on the "system" and I only focus on basic survival. Because while everyone is wringing their hands because they aren't getting their SS check. I will be sitting in the mountains with my guns, fat dumb and happy.

 

[Vagitarian]

Perry was dead on nut right about Social Security being a Ponzi scheme. Everyone knows is but he is the only one who has the balls to tell the truth about it.

I don't blame you for feeling the way you feel about it, but the bottom line is the government fucked us all over and it started the day FDR created the program. Yes, when LBJ decided to move the SS trust fund into the general treasury, it hastened its demise, but it was always on a slow train to ruin. Remember, the first person that ever received a check didn't pay much into it. So it was a Ponzi scheme from the get go. People don't like hearing that. And they can claim that it was "so successful", but it doesn't change the facts.

And now the system will implode. Either we take steps to fix it now or it goes tits up.

People can say what they want about Bush, but he tried to fix it and got shot down.

Math is math. And the math says that there aren't enough people to support paying out the promised benefits. So who gets fucked over? You? Me? Your kids? Your grandkids?

So all of the baby boomers can cling to their "I paid in and I want it" but they just need to know that they are fucking over their kids and grandkids.

That is why I have basically given up on the "system" and I only focus on basic survival. Because while everyone is wringing their hands because they aren't getting their SS check. I will be sitting in the mountains with my guns, fat dumb and happy.

I agree it's unsustainable as is but when you criticize something this important to so many Americans, you need to have a plan to replace it. I would have loved to have opted out years ago but wasn't allowed to - so now they want to take my forced contributions away? How is that not theft?

Bush had the right idea but a bad plan (IMO). The average American is not equipped to manage their own stock purchase program. Collect the money and buy them annuities.

 

[Vagitarian]

Perry was dead on nut right about Social Security being a Ponzi scheme. Everyone knows is but he is the only one who has the balls to tell the truth about it.

I don't blame you for feeling the way you feel about it, but the bottom line is the government fucked us all over and it started the day FDR created the program. Yes, when LBJ decided to move the SS trust fund into the general treasury, it hastened its demise, but it was always on a slow train to ruin. Remember, the first person that ever received a check didn't pay much into it. So it was a Ponzi scheme from the get go. People don't like hearing that. And they can claim that it was "so successful", but it doesn't change the facts.

And now the system will implode. Either we take steps to fix it now or it goes tits up.

People can say what they want about Bush, but he tried to fix it and got shot down.

Math is math. And the math says that there aren't enough people to support paying out the promised benefits. So who gets fucked over? You? Me? Your kids? Your grandkids?

So all of the baby boomers can cling to their "I paid in and I want it" but they just need to know that they are fucking over their kids and grandkids.

That is why I have basically given up on the "system" and I only focus on basic survival. Because while everyone is wringing their hands because they aren't getting their SS check. I will be sitting in the mountains with my guns, fat dumb and happy.

Oh I'll be able to live without Social Security just but what about the all the boomers who were given retirement worksheets by their corporations and forced (keyword is forced) to make monthly contributions? And now he wants them?

 

[Man For All Seasons]

I agree it's unsustainable as is but when you criticize something this important to so many Americans, you need to have a plan to replace it. I would have loved to have opted out years ago but wasn't allowed to - so now they want to take my forced contributions away? How is that not theft?

Bush had the right idea but a bad plan (IMO). The average American is not equipped to manage their own stock purchase program. Collect the money and buy them annuities.

You miss the main point, as usual.

A drunken monkey with a dart board could pick stocks that would outperform the "return" they get on SS contributions. What would be so tough about putting money is large market funds. You make this too complicated. The Bush plan would have been a great step in the right direction. And here you whine about personal freedom all the time!

 

[Vagitarian]

You miss the main point, as usual.

A drunken monkey with a dart board could pick stocks that would outperform the "return" they get on SS contributions. What would be so tough about putting money is large market funds. You make this too complicated. The Bush plan would have been a great step in the right direction. And here you whine about personal freedom all the time!

Yeah, great step. Let's see - what did the DOW get down to on his watch? I'd rather see the money put into a fund and buy annuities for people. That'd be good for P Ho too.

 

[Man For All Seasons]

Yeah, great step. Let's see - what did the DOW get down to on his watch? I'd rather see the money put into a fund and buy annuities for people. That'd be good for P Ho too.

Yeah, the Dow did tank once the Dims took over in Congress. YOu are right. But long term, even with the tank, people would have come out ahead, genius. Also it was what? 10% of their fund that would have been eligible. You are flailing again. Give it up.