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Welcome to NNI where the new hires make 20% high base salaries than legacy reps. New hires are being hired in as Senior reps. Meanwhile, you have reps that have been with the company through the troubles and trials of the past few years that are still OCS2 or DCS2. Honestly, NNI should hire inexperienced reps. They thrive off of micromanagement and making every decision. This is not a company that lets you run your territory as you would your own business.
 






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Welcome to NNI where the new hires make 20% high base salaries than legacy reps. New hires are being hired in as Senior reps. Meanwhile, you have reps that have been with the company through the troubles and trials of the past few years that are still OCS2 or DCS2. Honestly, NNI should hire inexperienced reps. They thrive off of micromanagement and making every decision. This is not a company that lets you run your territory as you would your own business.
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Yup. They’d rather let a tenured rep walk and replace them with a college grad making 25% more than just give that tenured rep a 10% raise and make them happy. Here, take your 5% and be happy.

And they wonder why people are leaving in droves.
 


















anonymous said:
Welcome to NNI where the new hires make 20% high base salaries than legacy reps. New hires are being hired in as Senior reps. Meanwhile, you have reps that have been with the company through the troubles and trials of the past few years that are still OCS2 or DCS2. Honestly, NNI should hire inexperienced reps. They thrive off of micromanagement and making every decision. This is not a company that lets you run your territory as you would your own business.
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This is not new to pharmaceuticals - any company. It is the same at Novo as anywhere else...if a rep wants to make more $$$ then you have to leave. Pharmaceuticals is like this everywhere and has been for forever.
 






And let me say...man, you are not wrong to be pissed. It is an absolute ignorant way to do business - but pharma has done it for as long as I have been around (20+ years)

You would think it is logical to reward the people that have been with you, know your culture, have helped build your business...the people that make your company what it is. But, unfortunately, that is not how it works. Every time I have gotten a significant pay increase, it has been because I have left the company I was with and went with a new company. It is ridiculous, but that is how things are.
 






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And let me say...man, you are not wrong to be pissed. It is an absolute ignorant way to do business - but pharma has done it for as long as I have been around (20+ years)

You would think it is logical to reward the people that have been with you, know your culture, have helped build your business...the people that make your company what it is. But, unfortunately, that is not how it works. Every time I have gotten a significant pay increase, it has been because I have left the company I was with and went with a new company. It is ridiculous, but that is how things are.
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Yup…and then they blame millennials for job hopping.
 






anonymous said:
Welcome to NNI where the new hires make 20% high base salaries than legacy reps. New hires are being hired in as Senior reps. Meanwhile, you have reps that have been with the company through the troubles and trials of the past few years that are still OCS2 or DCS2. Honestly, NNI should hire inexperienced reps. They thrive off of micromanagement and making every decision. This is not a company that lets you run your territory as you would your own business.
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In my area, it is a regular practice to hire and promote people with zero sales or management experience. You heard me right. Zero. I’m not exaggerating—wish I was. People who have never been in pharma being hired for rep or manager. The other things you mentioned are also happening—promotions are faster for newer reps over tenured reps. I don’t understand the logic in this. Neither do customers. They are quite sick of all the changes in reps and territory. Horrible continuity. Look around though—there are great jobs out there with companies who appreciate experience and will pay for it. Best of luck!
 












anonymous said:
Welcome to NNI where the new hires make 20% high base salaries than legacy reps. New hires are being hired in as Senior reps. Meanwhile, you have reps that have been with the company through the troubles and trials of the past few years that are still OCS2 or DCS2. Honestly, NNI should hire inexperienced reps. They thrive off of micromanagement and making every decision. This is not a company that lets you run your territory as you would your own business.
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When did we become a company of whiners? Can someone please tell me? If you don't like it here, stop whining and hit the bricks. With all of the out of work people from tech giants, I'm pretty sure that we could replace each snowflake with someone that would be more than happy to make what we legacy reps make. Especially when they see how little time a DCS spends in front of a customer each day.
 






anonymous said:
In my area, it is a regular practice to hire and promote people with zero sales or management experience. You heard me right. Zero. I’m not exaggerating—wish I was. People who have never been in pharma being hired for rep or manager. The other things you mentioned are also happening—promotions are faster for newer reps over tenured reps. I don’t understand the logic in this. Neither do customers. They are quite sick of all the changes in reps and territory. Horrible continuity. Look around though—there are great jobs out there with companies who appreciate experience and will pay for it. Best of luck!
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Must be good ole SADI. He has hired some real winners.
 






anonymous said:
Yup. They’d rather let a tenured rep walk and replace them with a college grad making 25% more than just give that tenured rep a 10% raise and make them happy. Here, take your 5% and be happy.

And they wonder why people are leaving in droves.
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Guys, we need to get over ourselves. It's a business decision. The products stand out by themselves, OK? Dont sit on here and pretend that a recent college grad with half a brain cant do what a tenured rep can do, and at a significant cost savings. And they dont "wonder why people are leaving in droves. They want those of us with 15+ years in the field to leave. In addition, excellent reps recently let go from, GSK, Pfizer, Merck, Novartis, Sanofi and former award winners from contract companies will be happy to take our spots, and at 33.333% less than a lot of us make.
 






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The "good ole Novo" left the building in 2015.....
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Good Old Novo was escorted out of the building, with security guards making sure that they didn't take anything other than coffee mugs and family photos. Stop revising history! Most, if not all of leadership from College Road and Scudders Mill that were around when I started were fired.
 






anonymous said:
Guys, we need to get over ourselves. It's a business decision. The products stand out by themselves, OK? Dont sit on here and pretend that a recent college grad with half a brain cant do what a tenured rep can do, and at a significant cost savings. And they dont "wonder why people are leaving in droves. They want those of us with 15+ years in the field to leave. In addition, excellent reps recently let go from, GSK, Pfizer, Merck, Novartis, Sanofi and former award winners from contract companies will be happy to take our spots, and at 33.333% less than a lot of us make.
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They don’t replace tenured reps with lower paid employees. They replace them with higher paid employees with less experience.

Clearly you work at home office, otherwise you’d know that the job is not about “delivering a message” (which yes, anyone can do), but rather the business relationships that tenured reps build over years, which generate trust, credibility, and access that some college grad would never be able to get.
 






anonymous said:
They don’t replace tenured reps with lower paid employees. They replace them with higher paid employees with less experience.

Clearly you work at home office, otherwise you’d know that the job is not about “delivering a message” (which yes, anyone can do), but rather the business relationships that tenured reps build over years, which generate trust, credibility, and access that some college grad would never be able to get.
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Bravo! Well said
 






anonymous said:
They don’t replace tenured reps with lower paid employees. They replace them with higher paid employees with less experience.

Clearly you work at home office, otherwise you’d know that the job is not about “delivering a message” (which yes, anyone can do), but rather the business relationships that tenured reps build over years, which generate trust, credibility, and access that some college grad would never be able to get.
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The job as NNI as as easy as it gets. Great products with great coverage. They hire people with less experience for more money because there’s value in having someone on board who doesn’t bitch all the time. They’d rather pay someone else more just so they don’t have to listen to you cry about an easy fucking job that you make lots of money doing. They’re paying for a positive culture. And, it’s money well spent.
 






anonymous said:
The job as NNI as as easy as it gets. Great products with great coverage. They hire people with less experience for more money because there’s value in having someone on board who doesn’t bitch all the time. They’d rather pay someone else more just so they don’t have to listen to you cry about an easy fucking job that you make lots of money doing. They’re paying for a positive culture. And, it’s money well spent.
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That might be the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever read on this site and that’s saying something.
 












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That might be the dumbest fucking thing I’ve ever read on this site and that’s saying something.
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Really? Companies don’t invest financially in creating a positive culture? You’re an idiot if you don’t see that a positive hard working rep with less experience is worth more than an old veteran who bitches and cries about everything.
 






anonymous said:
They don’t replace tenured reps with lower paid employees. They replace them with higher paid employees with less experience.

Clearly you work at home office, otherwise you’d know that the job is not about “delivering a message” (which yes, anyone can do), but rather the business relationships that tenured reps build over years, which generate trust, credibility, and access that some college grad would never be able to get.
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"Business relationships"? Get over yourselves. A cute 25 year old phys ed major with 1 year of experience can get the same 25 seconds of face time that you can. Why do you think that most companies are cutting head count and ramping up contract sales reps, ro switching to a call center model?
 






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