Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ever!!

[Anonymous]

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This is a setup for a Ponzi scheme. Either you will be part of the scamming or you will be scammed or both. You may very well find this person on LINKEDIN, but there is good possibility of finding this person also in LOCKEDUP!

Ponzi scheme. LOL Are you being joking or are just showing your ignorance? There is no scamming here. This is no ponzi scheme unless you consider every sales organization a ponzi scheme. If our company is a ponzi scheme then so is Pfizer, GSK, Merck, Miscrosoft, GM, etc... Do you know how many compounding pharmacies have a sales force even if its just one person? Our company also promotes another company that is in the medical supplies arena. I don't think you actually know what a ponzi scheme is or you would not show your ignorance by saying our company is one.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from their own money or the money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation.

Since no one is investing any money here is no possibility of our simple sales organization of 1099 reps being a ponzi scheme. There is no promise of money unless the rep makes a sale. Please...... stop this nonsense about our company being a ponzi scheme.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

Is English you're first or second language

It is obviously YOUR (you're = you are (an idiot)) second language. How come nobody can get their (they're = they are) "your/you're" correct? Pharma reps...pfff.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

It is obviously YOUR (you're = you are (an idiot)) second language. How come nobody can get their (they're = they are) "your/you're" correct? Pharma reps...pfff.

I typically get my "your" and "you're" correct and was not the poster who made that mistake but I read your reply and now feel like I have to ask a question. Who do you work for? Your post makes it sound like you have no respect for pharma reps and if so why are you judging the whole based on the mistake of one person.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

Ponzi scheme. LOL Are you being joking or are just showing your ignorance? There is no scamming here. This is no ponzi scheme unless you consider every sales organization a ponzi scheme. If our company is a ponzi scheme then so is Pfizer, GSK, Merck, Miscrosoft, GM, etc... Do you know how many compounding pharmacies have a sales force even if its just one person? Our company also promotes another company that is in the medical supplies arena. I don't think you actually know what a ponzi scheme is or you would not show your ignorance by saying our company is one.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from their own money or the money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation.

Since no one is investing any money here is no possibility of our simple sales organization of 1099 reps being a ponzi scheme. There is no promise of money unless the rep makes a sale. Please...... stop this nonsense about our company being a ponzi scheme.

Maybe not a ponzi scheme by definition but the reps will make $10,00o a year in commission and no salary. No thanks. We don't want to work for peanuts

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

Maybe not a ponzi scheme by definition but the reps will make $10,00o a year in commission and no salary. No thanks. We don't want to work for peanuts

I wouldn't want to work for 10K a year but nobody is suggesting that and I would not want a rep who could only earn 10K a year in our business. To be honest it would be hard to sell that little even if you tried assuming you actually made calls. Have you ever heard of Voltaren Gel? Do you know the sales that product alone has generated for Novartis and Endo? You do realize that it is basically a compounded product with only 1 repeat 1 active ingredient. Don't you think that most patients would have a greater chance of getting relief if the medication had several "Active" ingredients that were all designed to work with one another? It's simple logic like this that goes a long way with physicians. They typically like the idea of a product that bypasses the GI tract and therefore has little chance of drug to drug interaction, is fast acting, drastically reduces pain, is non-addictive, non-sedating, minimal hepatic, renal and GI exposure, is targets to the site of the pain, odorless and can be customized to each patient.
Yes sir, that sounds like a tough product to sell. You only wish you have products that had all those advantages most of the time.
I won't even go into all the advantages of our consulting service on medical supplies because that would be a slam dunk without even trying.

10K is on the low end of what you should be making a month not year. Since you don't know ANYTHING about either of our product lines or our company you sure talk a lot about things you know nothing about. Why are you afraid of reps taking this opportunity? It may not be for you but that's your decision not everyone else's. A rep will quickly see how successful they will be and there is no slavery in this country so they can quit anytime they want. This isn't some MLM garbage or some business where you have to buy inventory. This is simple selling of transdermal pain medication and other transdermal medications and the selling of a consultation service on medical supplies.
There are lots of companies competing in this market and if you knew ANYTHING about our industry you would not be making these ignorant statements.
I think people need to know that there are people that will argue against anything in this day and age. There are still ignorant people that will try to tell you NOT to get your children vaccinated because they know about as much about vaccinations as this person does about the compounding pharmacy industry and none at all about the medical supply arena.

 

[Anonymous]

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Jennifer Hampton from New York got a job in pharma management consulting after she was laid off in October. I think she makes similar money to what she made a Pfizer. She travels now M -Th so it's a different lifestyle, but since her company pays those expenses she is coming out ahead. Anyone else heard from Jen?

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

I wouldn't want to work for 10K a year but nobody is suggesting that and I would not want a rep who could only earn 10K a year in our business. To be honest it would be hard to sell that little even if you tried assuming you actually made calls. Have you ever heard of Voltaren Gel? Do you know the sales that product alone has generated for Novartis and Endo? You do realize that it is basically a compounded product with only 1 repeat 1 active ingredient. Don't you think that most patients would have a greater chance of getting relief if the medication had several "Active" ingredients that were all designed to work with one another? It's simple logic like this that goes a long way with physicians. They typically like the idea of a product that bypasses the GI tract and therefore has little chance of drug to drug interaction, is fast acting, drastically reduces pain, is non-addictive, non-sedating, minimal hepatic, renal and GI exposure, is targets to the site of the pain, odorless and can be customized to each patient.
Yes sir, that sounds like a tough product to sell. You only wish you have products that had all those advantages most of the time.
I won't even go into all the advantages of our consulting service on medical supplies because that would be a slam dunk without even trying.

10K is on the low end of what you should be making a month not year. Since you don't know ANYTHING about either of our product lines or our company you sure talk a lot about things you know nothing about. Why are you afraid of reps taking this opportunity? It may not be for you but that's your decision not everyone else's. A rep will quickly see how successful they will be and there is no slavery in this country so they can quit anytime they want. This isn't some MLM garbage or some business where you have to buy inventory. This is simple selling of transdermal pain medication and other transdermal medications and the selling of a consultation service on medical supplies.
There are lots of companies competing in this market and if you knew ANYTHING about our industry you would not be making these ignorant statements.
I think people need to know that there are people that will argue against anything in this day and age. There are still ignorant people that will try to tell you NOT to get your children vaccinated because they know about as much about vaccinations as this person does about the compounding pharmacy industry and none at all about the medical supply arena.

If you are who you claim to be, I question your strategy to get new sales people. May I ask a clarifying question: are you looking for potential sales people from a pool of candidates who for the last 6 years have been bound to adhere to a call cycle (calling on people that have heard the same message since the 1st Billy Clinton administration)? These same potential candidates have been legally bound to stick to a marketing message script, as they "detail" drugs that have been out for 15 years, or more.

From what I have seen (I started in 2004) work activity has declined as morale sinks and we lose blockbusters. I am not being facetious, I am just curious. Why would you look for rainmakers here?

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[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

I wouldn't want to work for 10K a year but nobody is suggesting that and I would not want a rep who could only earn 10K a year in our business. To be honest it would be hard to sell that little even if you tried assuming you actually made calls. Have you ever heard of Voltaren Gel? Do you know the sales that product alone has generated for Novartis and Endo? You do realize that it is basically a compounded product with only 1 repeat 1 active ingredient. Don't you think that most patients would have a greater chance of getting relief if the medication had several "Active" ingredients that were all designed to work with one another? It's simple logic like this that goes a long way with physicians. They typically like the idea of a product that bypasses the GI tract and therefore has little chance of drug to drug interaction, is fast acting, drastically reduces pain, is non-addictive, non-sedating, minimal hepatic, renal and GI exposure, is targets to the site of the pain, odorless and can be customized to each patient.
Yes sir, that sounds like a tough product to sell. You only wish you have products that had all those advantages most of the time.
I won't even go into all the advantages of our consulting service on medical supplies because that would be a slam dunk without even trying.

10K is on the low end of what you should be making a month not year. Since you don't know ANYTHING about either of our product lines or our company you sure talk a lot about things you know nothing about. Why are you afraid of reps taking this opportunity? It may not be for you but that's your decision not everyone else's. A rep will quickly see how successful they will be and there is no slavery in this country so they can quit anytime they want. This isn't some MLM garbage or some business where you have to buy inventory. This is simple selling of transdermal pain medication and other transdermal medications and the selling of a consultation service on medical supplies.
There are lots of companies competing in this market and if you knew ANYTHING about our industry you would not be making these ignorant statements.
I think people need to know that there are people that will argue against anything in this day and age. There are still ignorant people that will try to tell you NOT to get your children vaccinated because they know about as much about vaccinations as this person does about the compounding pharmacy industry and none at all about the medical supply arena.

Boring. Don't buy into these lies. Much competition and the money he claims is not true. $10,000 a year is right. $12,000 a year if you work 60 hours a week.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

Boring. Don't buy into these lies. Much competition and the money he claims is not true. $10,000 a year is right. $12,000 a year if you work 60 hours a week.

Full commission sales CAN be lucrative. But can you imagine anyone in your Cluster working full commission jobs? How about the young hot things that always brag about working out 2 hours a day...during the day! And the mommies that cut out early to pick up little Bradley at day care, or to drop him off for another doctor visit?What about those 45 year olds that have doctor so-and-so in her back pocket, so theres no NEED for her to work more than 5 hours a day.

Can you see those people doing full commission sales? I can't.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

Full commission sales CAN be lucrative. But can you imagine anyone in your Cluster working full commission jobs? How about the young hot things that always brag about working out 2 hours a day...during the day! And the mommies that cut out early to pick up little Bradley at day care, or to drop him off for another doctor visit?What about those 45 year olds that have doctor so-and-so in her back pocket, so theres no NEED for her to work more than 5 hours a day.

Can you see those people doing full commission sales? I can't.

I transitioned to device from Pfizer. It was done late, i am in my 40s and it doubled my income. There will be tons of competition since the talent pool is flooded but where there is a will there is a way. My thoughts and prayers are with you all.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

Full commission sales CAN be lucrative. But can you imagine anyone in your Cluster working full commission jobs? How about the young hot things that always brag about working out 2 hours a day...during the day! And the mommies that cut out early to pick up little Bradley at day care, or to drop him off for another doctor visit?What about those 45 year olds that have doctor so-and-so in her back pocket, so theres no NEED for her to work more than 5 hours a day.

Can you see those people doing full commission sales? I can't.

Full commission sales that pay $10,000 a year. NO WAY. This guy is selling smoke and mirrors

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

Boring. Don't buy into these lies. Much competition and the money he claims is not true. $10,000 a year is right. $12,000 a year if you work 60 hours a week.

You are the same person that wrote the first message claiming 10K a year. LOL 12K a year and working 60 hrs per week is total BS.

So what you are saying is that you could only sell about 1 prescription per week? LOL Considering that almost EVERY physician sees a lot of patients every freaking day that is in pain, that there are pain clinics where every patient that the physician sees is in pain, that some physicians such as podiatrists who are easy to see love using transdermal mediations because of the poor circulation to extremities and they along with other physicians treat all sorts of wounds and thus need medication BUT you feel you could not sell but a little more than 1 script per week? LOL LOL If that's the case then you sound like the worst sales rep of all time. I bet you couldn't sell a rowboat in a flood to a drowning man up to his neck in water.

That's also assuming that you never make a sell in the medical supply arena either for my company. LOL

I ask the reps thinking about this to do some checking on their own. Never take anything stated on Cafepharm as factual until you do some checking on your own.
Go ask your Novartis reps how many scripts they sell of Voltaren Gel. Then ask them how many active ingredients there are in their medication. Its (1)!!! We typically have 5-6.
Ask the Abbott reps and Endo reps and Lilly reps how prescriptions of Testosterone Gel they sell, go ask the doctors how many BIHR therapy scripts are sold. I feel like I am in a battle of wits with an ant. Surely you can come up with something better than this nonsense.

Tell us all about the consulting service we offer and how little a rep would make there?

Tell us any fact you can come up with.
You will not answer. We are still waiting............. I repeat, tell us anything at all about that business!

You know nothing and are only spreading lies but that's ok. People have a way of seeing through to the truth. I am giving facts and you are simply spreading lies and presenting it as the truth but with no factual information to back it up.

If you get a physician to write 5 scripts this month then you would get your commission on all 5. The next month let's say he writes 5 new prescriptions plus you hopefully will get paid on 5 refills too so that month you might get 10 prescriptions just off that 1 physician the second month. The next month you might get 15 and so on for the whole year. You get your full commission whether its a new script or a refill.

Go ask this question to any of your physicians: "How many of your patients are totally pain free?"and the answer will ALWAYS be "None of them are pain free".

Then ask the physician would they rather write a script for a non-sedating, non narcotic, non-addictive, fast acting, minimal drug interaction risk medication that is targeted to the site of the pain OR take the risk of writing a potentially lethal narcotic which they must then monitor by pill counts and drug screening. I don't really have to answer that question do I?

I keep coming up with facts and you offer NOTHING in return. Tell me what's the commission structure and reimbursement for these products? Tell me the commission structure on the medical supply consulting service. If you don't know what we are offering then you can't make any informed opinion about what is really possible and you should not be trying to steer people away. I say let them do some digging on their own and let them decide.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

Boring. Don't buy into these lies. Much competition and the money he claims is not true. $10,000 a year is right. $12,000 a year if you work 60 hours a week.

I don't know where you are getting your information but I have to agree with the person saying that there is a ton of money to be made in the compounding pharamcy industry. I have a friend that just started a couple months ago and he is already up to 10K a month and is growing fast. It doesn't sound too boring to me. I have another friend that was making BIG bucks with Endo and left them to take a job working for a compounding pharmacy too but they are not authorized in my state.

 

[Anonymous]

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I don't know where you are getting your information but I have to agree with the person saying that there is a ton of money to be made in the compounding pharamcy industry. I have a friend that just started a couple months ago and he is already up to 10K a month and is growing fast. It doesn't sound too boring to me. I have another friend that was making BIG bucks with Endo and left them to take a job working for a compounding pharmacy too but they are not authorized in my state.

A buddy of mine was just supeaned by the Feds on a big compound pharmacy scam. Crawl back into your hole you scam artist!

 

[Anonymous]

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A buddy of mine was just supeaned by the Feds on a big compound pharmacy scam. Crawl back into your hole you scam artist!

And because some big pharma companies rip off the federal government does tha mean all do. I had a physicians recently trade pain pill prescriptions for sexual favors from some of his female patients. Does that mean all physicains do that? You logic is about as useful as as rubber lips on a woodpecker. If your friend just bought a lottery ticket and won does that mean everyone who went out and bought one would win? Your job must be to spread ignorance. Its clear that te same person is making up stories when they don't have any facts to back up their claims. Why don't you tell us the name of the pharamcy and where your friend was selling?

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Good Luck finding a better job, as high a job worth, it will never ever happen ev

I don't know where you are getting your information but I have to agree with the person saying that there is a ton of money to be made in the compounding pharamcy industry. I have a friend that just started a couple months ago and he is already up to 10K a month and is growing fast. It doesn't sound too boring to me. I have another friend that was making BIG bucks with Endo and left them to take a job working for a compounding pharmacy too but they are not authorized in my state.

You can make more money working at The Gap. Don't be fooled by scam artists selling you the Brooklyn Bridge when they see blood in the water.