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I usually don't post here but I wanted to respond to last poster. The Atlanta area has great potential. The manager is fine everyone has lots of stress and sometimes it comes out in different ways. My husband also took Qsymia and has pretty much kept the weight off . Thats why we have the maintenance indication. Its not rocket science that people will gain weight after they quit but it does change the way a patient sees how their intake of calories and what the proper amount needs to be to attain their goals. This place is by no means perfect but the drug is awesome and the Atlanta area probably has the most patients that can afford Qsymia. The reps before were fine and worked hard they just had better opportunities that you just don't have with a contract.I agree with above posters that the uncertainty of the company is your main concern not the drug or manager.
 












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Adding to above some of the original reps are still here they are now in a different district !
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As I said, there are know original hires still around. One got moved over and the rest are gone. Check every region to see how many are left of the originals, maybe 1-2 in each region. By the way, who can afford the maintance dose of 15mg. Check with your local pharmacy if you don't believe me. Patients are not going to pay that kind of money forever to get a 10-15% reduction. Sorry for you kool-aid drinkers, but we are on a short term deal, time is running out. Poster above does not work in this region, as a sales rep I could out manage my drill Sargent. It's a joke!! I have to tell him whats going on and give him direction on what we need to do.
 






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Thank you John, unfortunately you didn't tell the whole truth. This company is a dog. Run as fast as you can from any vivus position. People are leaving like crazy. The Atlanta region does not have one original rep that started with the company two years ago if that tells you anything. Qsymia is a good product but it's way to expensive and believe me Drs let us know this daily. Another problem is a slow weight lost rate and that means most patients give up on it after a month or two. And when you stop the medication you gain it back quickly. My husband did ok on it, but gained the weight back very quick. Again, run run run!! P.S. Manager is ex military and a joke for a manager. Very surprised that John has not let him go.
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Sorry but i am a Joan andi still believe everything i said. I also have a lot of people i care about come to this company. Some have deided to go and some are still here. Yes it is hard but they still believe in what we are doing.
 






If the company made the vouchers $100 off and made the 15/92 affordable we would see much less abandonment. We keep trying to justify the price but, how many of us would keep paying $130-200 month? Cost is more important than efficacy to the patients. MC isn't jumping at the bit to cover Q, lets face it, most people are cash pay. The strategy needs to be changed.
 






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If the company made the vouchers $100 off and made the 15/92 affordable we would see much less abandonment. We keep trying to justify the price but, how many of us would keep paying $130-200 month? Cost is more important than efficacy to the patients. MC isn't jumping at the bit to cover Q, lets face it, most people are cash pay. The strategy needs to be changed.
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I agree with you completely. Most of my calls turn into a price war. I called CVS, Walgreens, and walmart and the avg 15 mg price is $400 a month. How can we justify telling a patient that you will pay this cost forever if you want to keep off your 10-15% weight loss. Be honest, would you?? I wanted this so bad to be a huge blockbuster. We had no chance with this being a PDI contract and only 150 people. We can't change anything but work hard everyday, but if I can find something better, I will leave.
 






I can't figure out why they don't adjust. They know the problem is price but they still don't get it. We wouldn't need DTC if the price was right. Word of mouth would work.
 






I agree price is the main issue, but I disagree about not needing DTC. We need to drive motivated patients into the doctors office. I think at this point that's where we are missing the boat. We wouldn't need more reps, access to physicians is getting worse everyday. I care about this drug and I've been here since the beginning, trying to stick it out with so many other talented people here.
 






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I agree price is the main issue, but I disagree about not needing DTC. We need to drive motivated patients into the doctors office. I think at this point that's where we are missing the boat. We wouldn't need more reps, access to physicians is getting worse everyday. I care about this drug and I've been here since the beginning, trying to stick it out with so many other talented people here.
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Stock is a $4.02.
 






Anonymous said:
I agree price is the main issue, but I disagree about not needing DTC. We need to drive motivated patients into the doctors office. I think at this point that's where we are missing the boat. We wouldn't need more reps, access to physicians is getting worse everyday. I care about this drug and I've been here since the beginning, trying to stick it out with so many other talented people here.
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DTC did not help or helped very little with Belviq. The reason Vivus does not lower the price of Qsymia is because they have their own costs to manufacture the drug and I think based on the contracts they have there is not much room to move the price lower.
 






Anonymous said:
DTC did not help or helped very little with Belviq. The reason Vivus does not lower the price of Qsymia is because they have their own costs to manufacture the drug and I think based on the contracts they have there is not much room to move the price lower.
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The cost to make Qsymia is extremely cheap. It could be lowered but instead the company will bankrupt first.
 






There are definitely more than 2 reps left in each region from the original 150. One district near Atlanta has 7 of the original 9 . Not perfect but not nearly as bad as some other companies I have previously worked for. Biggest issue with the original reps is not getting equal pay as new reps coming on board are receiving . No hard feelings toward the new reps but management promised a rose garden and huge bonus potential and top reps have never made over 17k for semester. Not what most were expecting from product launch + the low balled salary that majority were given because of small company. Slap in the face to the original reps. Don't mention finding another job because I'm finding something out of pharma and working into a family owned business and will be done with all the BS. Also,Im sure upper management will say you don't get a rose garden when drug flopped well look yourself in the mirror and asked WHO who really screwed up this launch? Mail order fiasco, poor programs, co-pay cards not working, HUB biggest waste of money and the beat goes on an on and on.
 






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There are definitely more than 2 reps left in each region from the original 150. One district near Atlanta has 7 of the original 9 . Not perfect but not nearly as bad as some other companies I have previously worked for. Biggest issue with the original reps is not getting equal pay as new reps coming on board are receiving . No hard feelings toward the new reps but management promised a rose garden and huge bonus potential and top reps have never made over 17k for semester. Not what most were expecting from product launch + the low balled salary that majority were given because of small company. Slap in the face to the original reps. Don't mention finding another job because I'm finding something out of pharma and working into a family owned business and will be done with all the BS. Also,Im sure upper management will say you don't get a rose garden when drug flopped well look yourself in the mirror and asked WHO who really screwed up this launch? Mail order fiasco, poor programs, co-pay cards not working, HUB biggest waste of money and the beat goes on an on and on.
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Ok, one region and that's only because BC/BS is paying for Q. It makes me so angry that we had to all the hard work and the new reps make more than us. What is up with that? Why? I asked my dumb manager and he played like he had no idea. Thank you PDI-Vivus for being so loyal to us and all we have had to put up with. That's why I will never give 100% and I will work my hours as I want. You have made us this way for crapping on us. Y'all have cheated us out of money from day one and have not kept any of your promises.
 




































Anonymous said:
You are wrong!! Walmart is charging more than that for the 7.5 dose. Believe me, my Drs let me know this daily.
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I have not checked on our pricing in awhile. So today I called several stores and our 15mg pricing was crazy expensive. Walmart was $398 and Walgreens was $418. Have we had another price increase without being told? I urge everyone to check on your stores as we'll.
 












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