Oh my god! You were being sarcastic but I am actually a former enterprise rent a shmuck! Its true!...........fag
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Oh my god! You were being sarcastic but I am actually a former enterprise rent a shmuck! Its true!...........fag
Pharma and corporate america are shit and have hit an all time low! It has turned into only the top execs looking out for themselves and their greed. And ass kissing is the only thing that matters in this job anymore. Best advice on here is to look out for yourself, start your business.
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You guys are unbelievable! the job is what you make it. It sounds like you might be feeling guilty because your work ethic is lousy. Get out there and make a difference.
I made a difference-I told my dumbassed manager, a former unqualified jock, to stick the job up his ass!!!!
And what company do you work for as a manager asshole????
thats the number one requirement for manager: be an asshole.
Most of them are and most of them are lazy fucks.
My manager at Bristol is a total lazy ass. He cares about no one but himself. The guy works about 20 hours a week at most, and talks about how he likes golfing with reps during business hours!!!!! Talk about a waste of space. They need to lay these guys off!!!. Each manager should have 16+ reps under him or her.
It is not until you get out of pharma, that you really realize what a brain dead sloth you have become.
I left pharma, but it was extremely hard finding a real job. I basically lied about all of my skills, basically because I had none, but I wouldn't have gotten the job if I had told the truth.
My new boss asks me to do reports all the time and I can't even sort an excel spreadsheet. I am going to need to take an evening course at the vo-tech (secretly) in order to get my computer skills up to speed. All of the other employees at the company are cranking out reports and are actually getting signatures like I did, but they get them on orders for product, not free samples. They also don't bitch about working 50 hour weeks (real work too, not bullshit like in pharma). God I miss the days of working maybe 15 hours dumping samples. My drugs were on formulary too, so I was a star performer. But I thought I was better and smarter than pharma so I left. Now, I may be fired for being a complete idiot. Is pharma hiring? I want back in!!!!
I was basically a r***** and a shit-for-brains for joining pharma in the first place, I know, but I am not intelligent enough to do a real job. Pharma please hire me back!!!!
I left pharma, but it was extremely hard finding a real job. I basically lied about all of my skills, basically because I had none, but I wouldn't have gotten the job if I had told the truth.
My new boss asks me to do reports all the time and I can't even sort an excel spreadsheet. I am going to need to take an evening course at the vo-tech (secretly) in order to get my computer skills up to speed. All of the other employees at the company are cranking out reports and are actually getting signatures like I did, but they get them on orders for product, not free samples. They also don't bitch about working 50 hour weeks (real work too, not bullshit like in pharma). God I miss the days of working maybe 15 hours dumping samples. My drugs were on formulary too, so I was a star performer. But I thought I was better and smarter than pharma so I left. Now, I may be fired for being a complete idiot. Is pharma hiring? I want back in!!!!
I was basically a r***** and a shit-for-brains for joining pharma in the first place, I know, but I am not intelligent enough to do a real job. Pharma please hire me back!!!!
Do you suppose J&j hired some ex car jockeys to hustle Procrit???
Drug Rep in $3B Procrit Case: "80% of My Sales Were Medicare Fraud"; Carried $400K in "Cash"
By Jim Edwards | Aug 17, 2009
ShareEmailDiggFacebookTwitterGoogleDeliciousStumbleUponNewsvineLinkedInMy YahooTechnoratiRedditPrintRecommend1The whistleblower pharmaceutical sales reps in the Procrit case reinstated in a Massachussetts federal court claim that their careers at Johnson & Johnson’s Ortho Biotech unit were based mostly on lies. Mark Duxbury and Dean McClennan, both former sales reps at J&J, claim that the bulk of their business selling Procrit to hospitals and clinics was conducting Medicare fraud.
Duxbury claims he sold $13 million of Procrit between 1992 through 1998, and that approximately 80 percent of those sales were “false or fraudulent claims for Medicare reimbursement.”
McClennan sold more than $65 million of Procrit, and about 50 percent of his sales were fraudulent Medicare claims, he alleges.
The case — which J&J denies — was revived by a Massachussetts federal appeals court last week. It contains the usual complaints: marketing the spread between the price reimbursed by Medicare and the lower price the company sold it at, and off-label marketing.
But it also names names. Dozens of them: Doctors, hospitals, and clinics. In each case it describes how the doctor or institution took advantage of J&J’s schemes to lower the price it sold Procrit to doctors at, while asking the government to reimburse at the higher “average wholesale price.”
The whistleblowers’ lawyer says Medicare was defrauded of $3 billion.
Broadly, the complaint states (download here), J&J is accused of:
… giving providers unreported unlawful front end and back end payments in the form of “off-invoice” discounts, rebates, account credits, and other cash or cash equivalent payments such as phony “grants”, “advisory board honoraria”, and “donations” directly tied to the providers’ purchase of Procrit.
J&J did this by making presentations to hospitals demonstrating the savings they could make by overbilling Medicare, the suit claims. Here’s one example:
Seattle District Manager Robert Nelson instructed Relator Duxbury to analyze profits gained by the spread at St. Peter’s [in Olympia, Wash.,] and St. Joseph’s [in Tacoma, Wash.,] hospitals and present them in writing as a “financial analysis” of the benefits of purchasing Procrit.
J&J had a software program, called MVP, designed to generate rebates and discounts that would make Procrit sales profitable for such institutions.
The pair also carried $400,000 in Procrit discount cards that they could hand out to customers. The cards were referred to within the company as “cash” because, to doctors, that’s exactly what they were worth:
There were thousands of “Patient Trial Cards” provided to sales representatives, each of which was worth well over one thousand dollars ($1,000) in free Procrit. For example, Relator McClellan had over 400 Patient Trial Cards in his possession at one time. Medicare was billed for free Procrit and the free Procrit was not accounted or in calculating AWPs.
And, of course, there were the bogus grants:
One example of this type of “kickback” given to Providers to purchase Procrit is Relator Duxbury possesses documentation of a ten thousand dollar ($10,000) and twenty thousand dollar ($20,000) unrestricted grants that Defendant gave St. Joseph’s Hospital in Tacoma, Washington in 1992 and 1993 conditioned upon the purchase of Procrit.
J&J argues (download here) the case should be dismissed because the allegations were previously disclosed and the pair are merely jumping on the bandwagon.
very gay post.
FYI gay boy: 50hrs a week in a while collar job is not that hard.
then again, your gay ass probably never worked blue collar in your life, so you don't know what hard work is, right?
You're right. I am gay and that's why I want to get back into pharma. White collar, blue collar, I don't care. I can't hack any job in the real world. I liked catering lunches, dropping off samples and chatting with the office cows. I'm a pussy and that's why pharma is the right job for me. Damn I made a mistake leaving pharma.
Did Pfizer hire ex car jockeys to do their dirty selling???
Pfizer to pay record $2.3B penalty for drug promos
Repeat offender Pfizer paying record $2.3B settlement for illegal drug promotions
By Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer
On Wednesday September 2, 2009, 6:43 pm EDT
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fizer Inc.Wyeth WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal prosecutors hit Pfizer Inc. with a record-breaking $2.3 billion in fines Wednesday and called the world's largest drugmaker a repeating corporate cheat for illegal drug promotions that plied doctors with free golf, massages, and resort junkets.
"Huckster" pretty well sums up the Pfizer story doesn't it? This poster (from MSN) shows why our entire industry has gone down the drain when it comes to respect:
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:14:30 PM
One poster is sadly - amongst numerous others - speaking off the top of his uninformed head. None of you know Pfizer, nor the ethical drug and chemical industry. I do. On both counts.
For starters, Pfizer's World Headquarters are at 235 East 42nd Street. Not on Madison Avenue, three blaocks to the East.
This entire episode traces itself back to Ed Pratt, former head of Pfizer three times removed. It was Pratt, the first outsider to the firm, tragically hired by his predecessor, Jack Powers (John J. Powers, Jr.) who started the ethical ruination/decline at Pfizer. Jack Powers was a nice, sweet, decent and dare I say innocent man, who, from childhood had been groomed to work at Pfizer via his father, a renowned and loved Pfizer employee. Jack tragically - mistakenly - stupidly hired Pratt away from the Pentagon - where he worked under MacNamara (think about that!). When Pratt finally took the reigns at 235, he went about radically changing the manner by which Pfizer conducted itself in many of its operational areas, starting with medical sales. Pratt did away with the heretofor ethical standards and demanded hard, aggressive, near cuthroat techniques, much to the progressive shock of the medical delivery industry. Pratt also stabbed a number of long-standing, class act executives in the back such as Gerrie Laubach, John Teeter and Bob Feeney, just to mentoin but a handful. Pratt was, to be sure, a near sociopath, altogether distant, aloof, ruthless and beyond imperious. His average time at his SE corner 23rd floor office/lair was only 12-15 hours per week, for his typical 40 week "year". Pratt was unlike anyone before... He was not about Pfizer, only himself. His ultimate coup de grace was the "re-design" of Dr. Bjork Shiley's superb heart valve. When Pfizer (Pratt) took over the patent, Pratt did away with the perfected/superb design and manufacturing location (Scandinavia), cheapened the design and moved the "manufacturing" plant to the Dominican Republic. To date, over 700 patients have died (were murdered).
When Pratt retired the reigns were turned over to the Stanford MBA grad huckster Bill Steere, only a few levels above Pratt. Many year veteren Hank McKinnell replaced Steere for a brief period of time but could not undo all that had dreadfully come before him in the face of Pratt & Co and "retired".
One interesting tell card.... A year before Pratt died a few years back he donated $38M to his alma mater, Duke University, who gladly took his blood money........, in return for re-naming the engineering school at Duke, to today, The Edmund T. Pratt School of Engineering. It's nice when one can diefy themselves and go on into perpetuity. I wonder how many engineering students and graduates from Duke realize how ruthless Pratt was..............?
Today, Pfizer is run by an entire cavalcade of outsiders, all newbies, starting with Jeff Kindler, the chieftan. His subordinate staff, as mentioned, are all outsiders and, unlike their historic predecessors, have no experience within nor knowledge of the industry. It's all about revenue. Revenue is great. It's just that how you go about making it defines you.
Gone is the once great, decent, ethical and honest Pfizer of before. The likes of honest, decent, dedicated, hard working, brilliant class acts such as the Andersons, Bert Teeter, Elmer Otto, Bill Erhart, Jasper Kane, John Smith, John McKeen and Jack Powers are today names only in history. This is a real tragedy. Between Bert Teeter and Jasper Kane..., many Americans alone (yourself included in all likelihood) are alive solely due to these two brilliant and decent men. It was these men and many, many others who, for decades, made Pfizer one of the world's greatest company's. No more. You people have no idea how bad Pratt was. His "legacy" tragically still continues.
The lawsuit was fitting. There is another Pfizer lawsuit possibly in the wind. This one's another Pratt "doozy".
Pfizer lawsuits are like the vitimans "One a Day",lol,lol.
True, some people just can't hack it in pharma. Quotas are tough to meet for some folk....
Quick note on the bashing of "ex car rental" reps. While it is true the entry level position is grueling for about 30% of an average Pharma pay check, opportunity does present iteself quickly and within 2 - 3 years, it is likely that "rental car" rep will be making just as much as any MM pharma rep on their W2.....but working 60 hours a week. Getting closer but still not there. Now lets get that kid promoted to Area Manager and he's bringing in 130- 160 range. From there its gravy. Yes, I was an ex car rental rep turned Pharma, but I have no regrets. Like Pharma, its not real sales. However, it did provide an excellent learning ground for running ones own business. It cracks me up to talk with other reps and they are always saying their going to open a business doing A or B or whatever. After speaking with them for 5 minutes I realize they have no idea. Up from Area Manager is City Manager and when I left, he was making 350K to 450k. Dont cry BS. At the end of each month we all can see how the numbers shake out and can figure what all management makes. Very transparent system. Up from City Manager was GM and he was making 2Mil a year. Again, I can prove so dont yell BS and be blinded. Were all in this for the money. Pharma or any other business. Yes I am glad I left that industry and I more than likely will be glad when this gig is up and I move on. The point is, dont discredit and belittle other jobs or industies if you A.)Have never worked in them, or B.)Know nothing about them. Its not that these so called "car rental" reps were in the wrong industry. They just decided to take an opportunity to move on and try other ventures. Earlier posts have said it best, if your life is your job, your in bad shape. The daily grind should just be a means to an end. Your real life full of family, activities, personal growth, etc, etc should be the driving force behind your daily existense.