'Dopesick' series on Hulu

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Anyone else watching this? Wondering if anyone who was here back then can comment on the show's accuracy, particularly on the sales training, and personalities of the Sacklers.
 






anonymous said:
Anyone else watching this? Wondering if anyone who was here back then can comment on the show's accuracy, particularly on the sales training, and personalities of the Sacklers.
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Dead on accurate. You also need to read Empire of Pain, The Sacklers needed to be put in prison along with the management and many of the reps
 




































Why would anyone believe that a wildly sensationalistic version of a f’d up narrative would be true? Sure, deaths and dates are true (though over 90% had other drugs and/or alcohol in their systems) but the way they depicted training and marketing? Total bullshit! We were never Insys nor anything like it!
 






some hilarious accuracy like they way they nailed the Richard character and Howard Udels jowls. Big Red was horribly portrayed though. Haddox character was decently captured.

However - this purposefully myopic and sensationalized smear campaign had NO CLINICAL regard or balance to millions of patients that actually needed the med and the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY that took it appropriately. Go ask doctors today on the clinical merit of the product and they'll tell you its still a valued medication.

Fun watch though!
 






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Why would anyone believe that a wildly sensationalistic version of a f’d up narrative would be true? Sure, deaths and dates are true (though over 90% had other drugs and/or alcohol in their systems) but the way they depicted training and marketing? Total bullshit! We were never Insys nor anything like it!
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Worked at Purdue in the sales training department for 5 years. Omg what I know now that I didn't know then. Everyone in the department strutting around like they were the best sales people in the world. What a joke. Every rep who got promoted to a sales trainer position from the field ALL came from areas of the country where pill mills were everywhere. There were plaques on the walls of their office with district rep of the year. One sales trainer was even sleeping with one of her pill mill docs. But when you're making $80,000 a quarter in bonus plus company car, 70k salary and free vacations......out the window goes any type of decency and responsibility for creating thousands of heroin addicts and destroying the community in which you are living and working in. Shame on them all. I hope they are all blacklisted from the industry. Keep in mind it's really easy to sell ANYTHING that people are breaking into pharmacy's to steal.

And to the poster who says its bullshit? I've got one company name for you that says it all IMS Data. You knew every script that was being prescribed to every doctor. Purdue pioneered the road to the Opioid epidemic. Period.
 






Former employee here for 8 years and i can tell you that this is not 100% accurate —more like 30%. I worked in various areas—training, sales, and management and did not come from a pill mill territory either. Agree with previous poster that no one says a thing about Percocet, Vicodin, fentanyl, and opana. I was never once told to promote off-label when i was a rep or told my team to do so. I sold both when it wasn’t formulated and when it was as well.

However, entertaining from Hollywood on the characters.
 






anonymous said:
Former employee here for 8 years and i can tell you that this is not 100% accurate —more like 30%. I worked in various areas—training, sales, and management and did not come from a pill mill territory either. Agree with previous poster that no one says a thing about Percocet, Vicodin, fentanyl, and opana. I was never once told to promote off-label when i was a rep or told my team to do so. I sold both when it wasn’t formulated and when it was as well.

However, entertaining from Hollywood on the characters.
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The problem was the bogus label. So stop with the BS.
 






anonymous said:
After seeing this , I'd be embarrassed to work for your company. Some sick sheit.
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AGREE

I think a lot of it is true. I remember being a rep in small Southern towns and every primary care office was FULL! They were all in there for oxy.

Today, the pcps I go to , even busy ones, maybe have 3 or 4 patients MAX waiting.

Small town docs had patients back then waiting for hours for oxy.
 






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AGREE

I think a lot of it is true. I remember being a rep in small Southern towns and every primary care office was FULL! They were all in there for oxy.

Today, the pcps I go to , even busy ones, maybe have 3 or 4 patients MAX waiting.

Small town docs had patients back then waiting for hours for oxy.
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Oh yeah, which 'small southern towns' specifically? I think ur full of shit and never worked at Purdue.
 












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agree. Reps never called it that and what kinda POS Rep is still selling to PCPs if you've been in the industry long enough to so-call "remember offices being packed"? U turd
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I WAS a pop rep. Now I"m speciality !

I totally remember Primary Care offices being packed in the late 90's and early 2000's. They were filled with patients lining up for OXY.

I never worked for Purdue. I just watched this series, and I believe not much is far fetched.
 


















Just finished binge watching it. Even if it is fictionalized to a degree, I can say as a rep at different companies for the past 20 years, the sales training hits the mark. I always felt dirty and depressed for a week after going to sales meetings. And the video taping…I sold a sleep med and we repeated slogans based on what I now realize were isolated short-term bullshit studies that created great talking points. Yuck- I was just glad that the reps didn’t take the fall alone in the movie like upper management has been allowing to happen for so long.
 






anonymous said:
Just finished binge watching it. Even if it is fictionalized to a degree, I can say as a rep at different companies for the past 20 years, the sales training hits the mark. I always felt dirty and depressed for a week after going to sales meetings. And the video taping…I sold a sleep med and we repeated slogans based on what I now realize were isolated short-term bullshit studies that created great talking points. Yuck- I was just glad that the reps didn’t take the fall alone in the movie like upper management has been allowing to happen for so long.
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I binge watched it too. It kind of makes me feel dirty about what I do in this industry. I abhor the sales meeting anyway.
 






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