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Divesting Dermagraft at the end of 2013

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DG is gone soon, 3 new products that are 1.5 to 3 years out. Two of the products have achieved significantly higher closure rates than the pathetic 39% DG squeaked out. The third is redoing their clinical trial.. The first go around they used 4 applications with 90% closure on most patients over 12 weeks....now they are bumping it up to 8 for the new trial... Trials are looking good.. DG will be squeezed out....RM is Toast soon!!!! Start looking for a new job
 






Anonymous said:
DG is gone soon, 3 new products that are 1.5 to 3 years out. Two of the products have achieved significantly higher closure rates than the pathetic 39% DG squeaked out. The third is redoing their clinical trial.. The first go around they used 4 applications with 90% closure on most patients over 12 weeks....now they are bumping it up to 8 for the new trial... Trials are looking good.. DG will be squeezed out....RM is Toast soon!!!! Start looking for a new job
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What product?
 






Anonymous said:
DG is gone soon, 3 new products that are 1.5 to 3 years out. Two of the products have achieved significantly higher closure rates than the pathetic 39% DG squeaked out. The third is redoing their clinical trial.. The first go around they used 4 applications with 90% closure on most patients over 12 weeks....now they are bumping it up to 8 for the new trial... Trials are looking good.. DG will be squeezed out....RM is Toast soon!!!! Start looking for a new job
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Mimedx making stuff up again to make themselves fee better! Hows that FDA investigaton going ober there for you? You cause a DOJ investigation over here and then you bring it over there with Mimedx! Same talking heads that love illegla stuff!
 






Same old misinformed Shire rep counting on corporate and their pharma boss to give them the tools to succeed while you watch the new technologies take all your business. Wait until you have to deal with MiMedx and Osiris at the same time. Kiss it good bye. FDA investigation? What the hell are you talking about? Get your facts straight you misinformed corporate puppet. Regardless of how the FDA regulates the micronized products, you should probably be worried about the products that your doctors keep using, EpiFix grafts, while yours keep expiring because they don't want to throw 90% in the trash every time.
 






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Mimedx making stuff up again to make themselves fee better! Hows that FDA investigaton going ober there for you? You cause a DOJ investigation over here and then you bring it over there with Mimedx! Same talking heads that love illegla stuff!
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There is an FDA investigation? Dumbass. It's called a discussion with FDA whether or not certain injectables should be regulated as 361 or not. You are probably googling that now since you're a tool.
 






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You are such an idiot! There is no way that it will to $850...On nvember 1st we will all find out we still have a job and Appligraf and Dermagraft will be the only PMA approved products under their own umbrella...mark my words!
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What a joke! Please don't tell me you EVER really thought this was really ever an option??!
 












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Organogenesis is going to lay off 200. Not that many in the salesforce.
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I don't believe there will not be layoffs. Things must change and reducing head count is one way to assist margins. I would rather have them say nothing instead of mislead in the hopes of squeezing everything out of us so they can in turn sell the product then lay us off
 






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I don't believe there will not be layoffs. Things must change and reducing head count is one way to assist margins. I would rather have them say nothing instead of mislead in the hopes of squeezing everything out of us so they can in turn sell the product then lay us off
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A simple search on the internet will tell you that Shire feels this was a bad purchase. Unfortunately with the ACA, who would buy this.
 






I wonder what Shire RM is going to do....with Apligraft reducing their price, will Shire get in the game, or once again come late to the dance because our leadership can't make a decision. I'm guessing that if we don't lower our price in the HOPD segment that this is a pretty good indicator that Fleming has had enough. It's gonna be a pretty tough sell to get physicians to use Dermagraft and lose $200 a pop. Oh, but in the 10% of their business that is commercial, they can offset their losses. That's like saying that 9 times out of 10 you have to kiss your sister, but that one time, you get to kiss the homecoming queen. I'm not sure that the decision makers have a clue what I'm facing when I walk into an account that I've brought value to for the last several years. Sure, the way Dermagraft and Apligraft got bundled was a little bit of a surprise, but is this the best strategy we can come up with? Give a discount that allows an account to break even if they've used a certain amount of DERMAGRAFT over the last quarter. Seriously? There are regions that don't have an account that orders that much. Then if they don't reach that incentive the next quarter, they go back to losing $200 for each Medicare graft....I'm sure that their numbers will grow at an amazing rate when they lose their pricing break. Yes, that is a little sarcasm. I'm just curious if we're gonna sit on our hands or come out swinging. Please tell me that our message isn't going to be around us being a PMA product. The market could care less what path a product took to get into their hands. That's obvious by the decision that was made in the ruling. Adjust, and move forward with a different message. And please don't tell me that we have a marketing piece getting approved that's going to separate us from the pack. I guess we'll see what is going to happen......
 






As a taxpayer I am glad the govt. Is finally wising up to all the fraudulent spend in Medicare. You folks have been overcharging this penis skin for years. As a wound care provider, it is all about debriding and cleaning the wound. I don't need your overpriced penis skin to get good outcomes.
 






I've seen your kind all too often. "Debride and Rinse Wound Specialist".....I agree that Dermagraft is overpriced and doesn't heal everyone, but the specialist that only debrides with no advance care......it makes me wonder if you're taking advantage of people. You make accusations about a skin substitute and how it takes advantage of the taxpayer, but what about a "specialist" that keeps their patients from closing only to have them keep coming back over and over and over and over. It's kind of like the doc that keeps his people sick.....you're right, conventional wound care is job security for you. Some of my old school wound specialists quit using Dermagraft because it was shortening the duration of wound healing. Sad, but true. It was hurting their "business" of keeping people needing their services. I do get your point about the overall price of "penis skin", it should be reduced and available in smaller sizes, but don't be content with minimal care to your patients.
 






I close nearly all wounds. You know why? Because I'm a skilled debrider and take care of that wound bed like no other. You are right about aome of those so called wound care scoundrels whi keep those patients coming in week after week. I see it with Dermagraft and other penis sjin as well. These ethically challenged doctors dont usually debride properly. I do and I get results with good ROI on the health care system.
 






If you're closing nearly all wounds, that's wonderful. Please take a tour of the United States and demonstrate to others how to debride. Honestly, as a rep for Dermagraft, that is the most frustrating part of watching an application......too many providers that are scared of a little blood dripping on the drape. Sounds like you do a great job. Keep up the good work...
 












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If you're closing nearly all wounds, that's wonderful. Please take a tour of the United States and demonstrate to others how to debride. Honestly, as a rep for Dermagraft, that is the most frustrating part of watching an application......too many providers that are scared of a little blood dripping on the drape. Sounds like you do a great job. Keep up the good work...
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Sometimes you need to create a wound to heal a wound. Bleeding is a good thing, get the vascular system moving. Surgical debriding is the way to go, not this enzymatic shit. I loved when panafil was used everywhere and they claimed it was a wound healing agent. great shit.

Wounds must also be low in MMP's to allow the healing process to truly move forward.
 






























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