Just curious about how many of the 100+ reps have been placed on a new inVentiv contract. Please post your current status. I will start it by saying that I have not and I am still unemployed.
Displaced Cephalon Reps
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Could someone please post a brief history of this contract and its future.
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Thanks!
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Thanks!
Walking Eagle
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- Walking Eagle Mar 10, 2011 at 06:30: PM
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History: Great start. After 6 months, downhill slide began. Year frought with unreasonable expectations; abrupt, erratic, questionable, unexplained, changes that always screwed the sales force with no benefit to the company. It just seems to be on a downhill roll to oblivion. Cephalon will still exist, Ventiv will be out of the picture, Amrix will be the responsibility of other divisions but will never receive the promotion and corporate backing it deserves, lack of third party support effort and declining coverage by third party payors may cause the product to disappear or be sold off to another company. All this in spite of the consistent sales increases posted by the Ventiv force.
Thanks for your reply. Why are there people displaced? Has there been a reorg? Hearing buzz about contract but no info is being released -- seems they are quietly recruiting.
How do you quietly recruit? Original contract was about 125 reps with large territories. Year later they expanded to 325 with smaller territories. Now back to about 200. I imagine any hires now are nothing more than backfilling from smart reps that exit this dead beat contract.
Hoping it lasts until mid summer than I'm out of here!!! The big issue with this contract is lack of coverage. Although they have a pretty reasonable coupon that ensures a covered patient only pays $10, they HAVE to be covered. No cash benefit and a very large chunk of ins companies do not cover it or have crazy PA's. And there has been NO progress. We have seen company after company jump ship on their coverage. Ask yourself this: What was that last big Ins Co to actually sign on? You hear all about them leaving but never about them signing up... United was the last big flop. I am treading water and hoping they don't cut us before the middle of summer. Then Cephalon, their holier than thou - soon to be unemployed CNS reps, and their horrible managed care morons can all suck it for wasting 3 years of my life.
Why should ANY insurance co. pay $9 a pill when you can get one with the same active ingredient for pennies. the benefit isn't worth the cost
If you think inventiv is going to help you once displaced, think again. Don't waste anymore of your valuable time or efforts with this company. Do not ever believe theat they have your back. If you are displaced, move on a try to get a job with a real pharma company. Good luck.
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- Walking Eagle Mar 11, 2011 at 06:23: PM
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Once daily dosing with little sedation gets people backto work instead of saying on the sofa sleeping through daytime TV drivel. I believe this was covered in training. Sell it. Get the doctor convinced and committed to fight for it. Do the same with nurses, etc who make the calls to the insurance companies. Keep in them as they will tire of the fight. Convince them to not let some minimum wage insurance company clerk reading off a script beat them down. Every time they get approval, they will feel better about themselves for winning each battle.
The irony in your statement is pretty funny... rather let an over paid pharma rep who is reading off their own script dictate what's best for the patient. lol classic stuff here.
no news for anyone out here on the left coast. Well at least the other 4 people I talked to in my district that were let go.
What InVentiv, PDI, Innovex, Publicis and any other sales or clinical out sourcing organization has as their #1 goal is THE CONTRACT. What ever way the powers that be can keep a contract going will be done. Chop half the sales team, ditch your top producers, realignment small territories into grossly larger ones, put in place unattainable quotas/goals, whack your monthly promotional budget, do you get the idea? inVentiv is paid on a per call basis. They first get paid to hire and train a sales team and then paid when they're t deployed. Why do think nearly every contract inVentiv ever had, there is such a difference in the daily call average between inVentiv and the client? Go ahead, get your scripts up, get more targets prescribing, get your market share up, get your positive market share up. But start dropping your daily call average, your manager will be talking to you because his/her manager is calling them because Whitney or Tom or Al or Tony will be calling them first. A contract organization is about THE CONTRACT plain and simple. You're only kept employed if it's beneficial to THE CONTRACT.
True, true, true. Tom SoTeal left inVentiv probably when his contractual obligations expired lmao.
employed after 3 months but not with this lame ass company.. got a 40k increase in pay and the same perks along with it... the way this reorg was done i will never work for this company again ... stay far away and dont go back.. positions were open in my area and posted for them and these incompetent recruiters play the dumb card when you ask about it.. gave up on them after a month.. dont trust anybody at inventiv.. there worthless and where they belong, at inventiv with all the other rejects incompetents
still unemployed; and with over 10 years as a loyal inVentiv rep. What a joke! looking to get out of pharma into health care sales. Pharma will be over in < 10 years tops...get out while you still can!!!
Employed with a giant increase in commission structure that people are actually making. "Per unit sold" style commission with a new product in medical device sales.
I am glad for re-employment happening so quickly in this economy and I doubt I'll ever go back to pharmaceuticals as I think it's (obviously) experiencing a slow death.
I am glad for re-employment happening so quickly in this economy and I doubt I'll ever go back to pharmaceuticals as I think it's (obviously) experiencing a slow death.