Discount on Vika-infested Miami??

Personally I'm looking fwd to MIA, I've been to the Fontainebleau it's a nice hotel in the middle of the art deco district.

Have I worked for better companies, absolutely. Have I worked for worse, absolutely. So far the only thing that they could do a little better is yes, some balance. There is a lot is busy work, long meetings, not much care about work-life balance. Hopefully that will level off... I'm glad to have a job. If it gets too much I'll look for better.
 






Personally I'm looking fwd to MIA, I've been to the Fontainebleau it's a nice hotel in the middle of the art deco district.

Have I worked for better companies, absolutely. Have I worked for worse, absolutely. So far the only thing that they could do a little better is yes, some balance. There is a lot is busy work, long meetings, not much care about work-life balance. Hopefully that will level off... I'm glad to have a job. If it gets too much I'll look for better.
Yes Miami and the Fontainebleau are nice. Bur, no! There will not be any balance. Its the way they operate. Keep you housed up and not allow you any free time. Used to be you'd work on these trips but also have some free time as a reward and to say thank you. That practice is long gone thanks to a couple of assholes who think they know what they are doing.
 






OMG! Complain about meeting on the weekend, complain about AZ, complain about meeting in Miami, complain about training, complain about Perry, about KK...STFU already. It's called having a job/career. If you can't handle it without bitching about it then leave, PLEASE. And no, this isn't KK, or a Mgr., just a rep that is sick and tired of all the complaining about everything. If you are so miserable, seriously you need to leave.
Thanks. We could tell you weren't KK just by your post. You do know that this is a site to post and bitch about things right? If you are so sick of it, don't come here in your free time to read! Some of us need an outlet to vent because honestly, this leadership sucks and we all know KK reads this shit religeously!

I have lasted through several regimes, so why should I leave? Soon, this company will be bought or merged and then a new crop of people brought in.

So my advice is stay off this site if you are sick of the complaining. I mean what did you come here for, best practice sharing? Stop being naive.
 






Yes Miami and the Fontainebleau are nice. Bur, no! There will not be any balance. Its the way they operate. Keep you housed up and not allow you any free time. Used to be you'd work on these trips but also have some free time as a reward and to say thank you. That practice is long gone thanks to a couple of assholes who think they know what they are doing.
Boo hoo, we have to stay at a 5 star hotel! F'ing whiners!!
 






Boo hoo, we have to stay at a 5 star hotel! F'ing whiners!!
What good is 5 star hotel when all you do is sit in a meeting room for 10 hours and eat shitty buffet food all day. Whats the point you fucking juvenile?

"Oooh Shire is so great, we go to a top Miami hotel and get treated like a child!" Seriously, this company is filled with clueless idiots. And just for the record you are there because its CHEAP! Miami does great deals in the summer. You want to impress people, kick off the year in January with a meeting in Miami like we used to do. It will never happen now with this 3rd rate crew!
 






Who's brilliant idea was Miami in August again?
Where do you suggest we go? Does it matter, really? How much time will you be spending on the town? Why keep fussing about it? Do you complain about everything? Are you using this as your vacation or something? It's hot everywhere in August. Do you have a personality disorder?
 






Yes Miami and the Fontainebleau are nice. Bur, no! There will not be any balance. Its the way they operate. Keep you housed up and not allow you any free time. Used to be you'd work on these trips but also have some free time as a reward and to say thank you. That practice is long gone thanks to a couple of assholes who think they know what they are doing.[/QUOTE

Why would you want a bunch of free time? I would rather come in later on Monday and leave earlier on Friday like we are doing than have a few hours here and there of free time. If YOU want more time in Miami you can. The rest of us want to clblow through the meeting and get home. Name cimpairs that are still giving everyone a bunch of fun time??? One of my previous companies finished the meeting at 5pm on a Thursday but FORBID anyone to leave until 8am the next day. Give me this schedule anytime.
 






Thanks. We could tell you weren't KK just by your post. You do know that this is a site to post and bitch about things right? If you are so sick of it, don't come here in your free time to read! Some of us need an outlet to vent because honestly, this leadership sucks and we all know KK reads this shit religeously!

I have lasted through several regimes, so why should I leave? Soon, this company will be bought or merged and then a new crop of people brought in.

So my advice is stay off this site if you are sick of the complaining. I mean what did you come here for, best practice sharing? Stop being naive.
No, it's not a bitch site. There are a couple of troubled people, like you, who can find no happiness in their lives, so you sign onto anonymous sites day & night to stroke your sad self. At least your mom still cares. Call her instead. It's getting old for the rest of us.
 






What good is 5 star hotel when all you do is sit in a meeting room for 10 hours and eat shitty buffet food all day. Whats the point you fucking juvenile?

"Oooh Shire is so great, we go to a top Miami hotel and get treated like a child!" Seriously, this company is filled with clueless idiots. And just for the record you are there because its CHEAP! Miami does great deals in the summer. You want to impress people, kick off the year in January with a meeting in Miami like we used to do. It will never happen now with this 3rd rate crew!
OMG! What a loser!! Don't go to the meeting!
 












Where do you suggest we go? Does it matter, really? How much time will you be spending on the town? Why keep fussing about it? Do you complain about everything? Are you using this as your vacation or something? It's hot everywhere in August. Do you have a personality disorder?
Seattle, SF are both beautiful in the summer. DC, LA, CO is great as well. Oh and guess what? No zika!

KK and PS are horribly unoriginal, meetings at BL WERE ALWAYS in AZ or FL constantly. Oh BTW Where's the next NSM? (oh that's right, same damn hotel or was this year, how original!) They don't know how to pick anything else.
 












Most pharma companies are now limiting their meetings to be held at airport Hyatts, Marriotts, and Hiltons. We should be happy that we are not going to a runway hotel!! Yeah Shire!!
 






Most pharma companies are now limiting their meetings to be held at airport Hyatts, Marriotts, and Hiltons. We should be happy that we are not going to a runway hotel!! Yeah Shire!!
Um no their not. A bunch of my friends in pharma just got back from their meetings one the Aria, another in Napa, another CO Springs, and one from Puerto Rico. So I think you're full of shit.
 






Um no their not. A bunch of my friends in pharma just got back from their meetings one the Aria, another in Napa, another CO Springs, and one from Puerto Rico. So I think you're full of shit.
No Puerto Rico - zika capital of the world!! What a sh*tty company!! I say y'all are full of crap, B&L troll!
 






Seattle, SF are both beautiful in the summer. DC, LA, CO is great as well. Oh and guess what? No zika!

KK and PS are horribly unoriginal, meetings at BL WERE ALWAYS in AZ or FL constantly. Oh BTW Where's the next NSM? (oh that's right, same damn hotel or was this year, how original!) They don't know how to pick anything else.

You little cry baby. Thiese meeting were planned months in advance. There was no threat of Zika at the time. Do you have a brain? How in the world did you get hired for this job?

I suggest you leave this company and go work for an event company. Then get back to us.

I have never seen a site so full of immature brats. Go check out the other eyecare sites. No crybabies there. And most of us have worked for a at least one of them. They do not make as much as we do. The dont have our bonus structure. Their vacation package is far worse, their benefits suck. Their meetings are no different than ours, but not quite as nice. All of them have at least a TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM HOME training period-you did HOME STUDY and a weekend meeting. Their fleet cars are not as nice They have nothing but tired old drugs and if you think KK is bad, go work for them. Seriously. The people at the top of alcon, allergan and bausch are more micro. One of the companies track reps with location devices. We have not made the first dime for this company and some of you act like a bunch of entitlement brats. Grow up.
 












You little cry baby. Thiese meeting were planned months in advance. There was no threat of Zika at the time. Do you have a brain? How in the world did you get hired for this job?

I suggest you leave this company and go work for an event company. Then get back to us.

I have never seen a site so full of immature brats. Go check out the other eyecare sites. No crybabies there. And most of us have worked for a at least one of them. They do not make as much as we do. The dont have our bonus structure. Their vacation package is far worse, their benefits suck. Their meetings are no different than ours, but not quite as nice. All of them have at least a TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM HOME training period-you did HOME STUDY and a weekend meeting. Their fleet cars are not as nice They have nothing but tired old drugs and if you think KK is bad, go work for them. Seriously. The people at the top of alcon, allergan and bausch are more micro. One of the companies track reps with location devices. We have not made the first dime for this company and some of you act like a bunch of entitlement brats. Grow up.
AMEN!
 






You little cry baby. Thiese meeting were planned months in advance. There was no threat of Zika at the time. Do you have a brain? How in the world did you get hired for this job?

I suggest you leave this company and go work for an event company. Then get back to us.

I have never seen a site so full of immature brats. Go check out the other eyecare sites. No crybabies there. And most of us have worked for a at least one of them. They do not make as much as we do. The dont have our bonus structure. Their vacation package is far worse, their benefits suck. Their meetings are no different than ours, but not quite as nice. All of them have at least a TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM HOME training period-you did HOME STUDY and a weekend meeting. Their fleet cars are not as nice They have nothing but tired old drugs and if you think KK is bad, go work for them. Seriously. The people at the top of alcon, allergan and bausch are more micro. One of the companies track reps with location devices. We have not made the first dime for this company and some of you act like a bunch of entitlement brats. Grow up.
I've never worked in eye care before so EXCUSE ME! Good gosh just giving my opinion.
 






You little cry baby. Thiese meeting were planned months in advance. There was no threat of Zika at the time. Do you have a brain? How in the world did you get hired for this job?

I suggest you leave this company and go work for an event company. Then get back to us.

I have never seen a site so full of immature brats. Go check out the other eyecare sites. No crybabies there. And most of us have worked for a at least one of them. They do not make as much as we do. The dont have our bonus structure. Their vacation package is far worse, their benefits suck. Their meetings are no different than ours, but not quite as nice. All of them have at least a TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM HOME training period-you did HOME STUDY and a weekend meeting. Their fleet cars are not as nice They have nothing but tired old drugs and if you think KK is bad, go work for them. Seriously. The people at the top of alcon, allergan and bausch are more micro. One of the companies track reps with location devices. We have not made the first dime for this company and some of you act like a bunch of entitlement brats. Grow up.
You think that iPad you carry isn't tracked? Lol