Diabetes Lay off rumors? bring them

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Change is coming....what are people hearing?
Do we think change to all sales forces in the DBU or only Spec?
You corporate friends out there have the insight...share
 
















anonymous said:
Change is coming....what are people hearing?
Do we think change to all sales forces in the DBU or only Spec?
You corporate friends out there have the insight...share
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The last lay-off happened in June of 2018 and it really didn’t affect any Specialty Reps.. There will be a downsize in the Specialty division. Although not as much as you would think just because there are fewer of them. There are some Districts that have “Hybrid” Reps and there may be some reps that will be reallocated.....let go. Some of those Districts can get by with fewer reps.
 








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Will primary care be effected?
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All teams to be hit. This is the final step to reduce those expensive pensions. The 50 y olds that didn’t take the last offer will be cleaned out. Just too damn expensive to keep these highest salaries that have 20% less productivity than the younger grasshoppers
 




anonymous said:
All teams to be hit. This is the final step to reduce those expensive pensions. The 50 y olds that didn’t take the last offer will be cleaned out. Just too damn expensive to keep these highest salaries that have 20% less productivity than the younger grasshoppers
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Business as usual with Age Discrimination?

Pence is VP, why not ask him gently to protect you? Maybe he can put in a good word with General Orangeface
 




Because this is called survival of corporate America. It is all about getting the most out of these young grasshoppers while you have them for 3 to 4.7 years before they are off to a new job opportunity or company. Why do you think we have all this diversity hires and time off during the week of July 4. The young dip shit grasshoppers Don’t care about pensions. All they care about is Traveling OUS, and time off, Vacation. Even though they can’t pay for their vacation time off..... They need this time to Recharge those little brains. Lilly doesn’t need to drop the pension plan because anyone in their 20s and 30s
Won’t be around Lilly’s long enough to ever qualify for any type of Pension security. They just jump from job to Job like a grasshopper in the August sunshine going from spot to spot. But Lilly needs to continue Phase Six of getting
Rid of these expensive, Crusty, Semi Productive Old farts over 49.5 Years old with
Over 22.7 years with the company. These people make way toooo much and we
Can hire 3 grasshoppers for the price of one of these old guys. Sorry for the Reality Check All. This is corporate America, and thank god there is a job shortage this helps us all.
 




anonymous said:
Because this is called survival of corporate America. It is all about getting the most out of these young grasshoppers while you have them for 3 to 4.7 years before they are off to a new job opportunity or company. Why do you think we have all this diversity hires and time off during the week of July 4. The young dip shit grasshoppers Don’t care about pensions. All they care about is Traveling OUS, and time off, Vacation. Even though they can’t pay for their vacation time off..... They need this time to Recharge those little brains. Lilly doesn’t need to drop the pension plan because anyone in their 20s and 30s
Won’t be around Lilly’s long enough to ever qualify for any type of Pension security. They just jump from job to Job like a grasshopper in the August sunshine going from spot to spot. But Lilly needs to continue Phase Six of getting
Rid of these expensive, Crusty, Semi Productive Old farts over 49.5 Years old with
Over 22.7 years with the company. These people make way toooo much and we
Can hire 3 grasshoppers for the price of one of these old guys. Sorry for the Reality Check All. This is corporate America, and thank god there is a job shortage this helps us all.
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You are spot on. They are doing this EVERYWHERE, not just Lilly. Across any corporation with employees that have been there 20+ years. If you are in that boat, take the buy-out. Get an exit strategy and plan in place, just in case. Wake up! One of the reasons for this naivete is because you have been at 1 company for so many years. It is true and it is happening. Get a plan in place.
 




anonymous said:
You are spot on. They are doing this EVERYWHERE, not just Lilly. Across any corporation with employees that have been there 20+ years. If you are in that boat, take the buy-out. Get an exit strategy and plan in place, just in case. Wake up! One of the reasons for this naivete is because you have been at 1 company for so many years. It is true and it is happening. Get a plan in place.
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yes I am spot on and it will be rolled out June and D Day will be November end, just like the big one two years back. SAD!
 




The truth is that doctors who practice in the diabetes field are sick of reps and redily admit and have started to use digital resources as a primary tool for information. With that in mind, it doesn’t matter if you are an infant age rep, an iPad is cheaper, more effective at relaying the tired messages and PI information, and they don’t bitch about cars and work on the 4th of July (just like the customers do by the way)
 




we are all just going through the motions. doctors are sick and tired of an endless parade of reps trying to get into their offices and let’s be honest, reps are faking calls all the time. we all are staying on as long as we can but in all honesty, the job is a total cake ride and smoke and mirrors exercise. the dbu could be cut drastically and still survive.
 




if there are changes, it will magically be with the older, pensioned employees. It’s a huge cost companies want to get away from. Lilly is in love with their acronyms, and their current favorite is “ECP”- early career professionals. Why? Because someone with no Pharma experience and little real world experience won’t know they’re getting boned and will happily work for significantly less than someone who has Pharma experience and real world experience. Your teams, especially in primary care, will start being younger and cheaper going forward.
 




anonymous said:
Because this is called survival of corporate America. It is all about getting the most out of these young grasshoppers while you have them for 3 to 4.7 years before they are off to a new job opportunity or company. Why do you think we have all this diversity hires and time off during the week of July 4. The young dip shit grasshoppers Don’t care about pensions. All they care about is Traveling OUS, and time off, Vacation. Even though they can’t pay for their vacation time off..... They need this time to Recharge those little brains. Lilly doesn’t need to drop the pension plan because anyone in their 20s and 30s
Won’t be around Lilly’s long enough to ever qualify for any type of Pension security. They just jump from job to Job like a grasshopper in the August sunshine going from spot to spot. But Lilly needs to continue Phase Six of getting
Rid of these expensive, Crusty, Semi Productive Old farts over 49.5 Years old with
Over 22.7 years with the company. These people make way toooo much and we
Can hire 3 grasshoppers for the price of one of these old guys. Sorry for the Reality Check All. This is corporate America, and thank god there is a job shortage this helps us all.
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wow this wasn’t written by a young buck or even a young grasshopper this is someone that has been around corporate America. Times are going to get difficult in pharma in the future
 




If spec reps are launching Nasal Glucagon in May...would they announce layoffs in June and release reps in November? I agree layoffs are coming but do we think they would do it in 2019 or wait until spring of 2020 after launch?

curious what our corporate friends know.... PCP reps impacted or Spec only?
 




Nasal glucagon launch won’t be that big. Although it is novel, Lilly will overprice it, it won’t have coverage etc., etc. Same old Lilly story..... I would think reps would find out in October of 2019 or April of 2020.
 








anonymous said:
All teams to be hit. This is the final step to reduce those expensive pensions. The 50 y olds that didn’t take the last offer will be cleaned out. Just too damn expensive to keep these highest salaries that have 20% less productivity than the younger grasshoppers
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what the hell is a grasshopper, why do people look down on the younger generation at Lilly’s
 




A grasshopper is someone that runs from job to job looking for more green each time they stop at the new job. They hate the old grasshoppers that may get in their way. They love red, orange and other colorful grasshoppers that are similar to themselves especially the ones that look exactly like they do. Don’t know how to store food for the winter and love time off. Bottom line they are just plain in it for themselves and can’t stand it when things get too Hot. So they say Bye and are off to a different grassland. These grasshoppers are usually of the age 35
And under. Lilly’s is loaded with these grasshoppers and it is affecting our success but is outstanding for our bottom line.
 




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