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Describe Eisai's Oncology Management?

The people at Alexion, SeaGen, Onyx, Medavation Alexion, Ariad, Aveo, Exelexis, YM Biosciences just to name a few would disagree with that statement BIG TIME!!!

SeaGen haha is all I have to say. Onyx will co promote with Bayer so they might be happy now but that's a tough call. Medivation will co promote with Astellas and they're getting a ton of cash and the doc's do like the Medivation folks better than the Dndn people. I"m sure Medivation will get approval soon, but they actually have good people (yeah I'm eating my own words) BUT there is talk already of them being bought out. Alexion is too Niche and too small and aren't the territories huge? You think people want out of Eisai? More want out of Alexion. Ariad hmmm can't make a good judgment call on that yet because they're so new and the old MGI folks will do well for five years but they'll be bought. Five years is about the average before a small co is purchased. Excelexis is a BMS company so big pharma fingers are in that bowl. Does YM even have a sales force yet? Aveo has had okay news on the Kidney cancer drug but still a really small and a big company like Celgene will try to swoop in and buy them.

This is fun give me a few more - I love a good debate. Why haven't you gone to work for the above companies you listed? I'll add that I heard Astellas is very hands on and they like the DM's to micro manage.

If you have a good DM any job can be a good. Think about our pharma friends that are miserable they ususally have a pain in the butt manager.
 




SeaGen haha is all I have to say. Onyx will co promote with Bayer so they might be happy now but that's a tough call. Medivation will co promote with Astellas and they're getting a ton of cash and the doc's do like the Medivation folks better than the Dndn people. I"m sure Medivation will get approval soon, but they actually have good people (yeah I'm eating my own words) BUT there is talk already of them being bought out. Alexion is too Niche and too small and aren't the territories huge? You think people want out of Eisai? More want out of Alexion. Ariad hmmm can't make a good judgment call on that yet because they're so new and the old MGI folks will do well for five years but they'll be bought. Five years is about the average before a small co is purchased. Excelexis is a BMS company so big pharma fingers are in that bowl. Does YM even have a sales force yet? Aveo has had okay news on the Kidney cancer drug but still a really small and a big company like Celgene will try to swoop in and buy them.

This is fun give me a few more - I love a good debate. Why haven't you gone to work for the above companies you listed? I'll add that I heard Astellas is very hands on and they like the DM's to micro manage.

If you have a good DM any job can be a good. Think about our pharma friends that are miserable they ususally have a pain in the butt manager.

Well you certainly have an interesting POV. Before I give you mine, what does Eisai have to offer over any of these companies, or any other oncology company for that matter? The culture here is toxic, morale is low, poor senior leadership with very little oncology experience, not great money, week pipeline and bad current oncology portfolio.

First any and all small to mid-cap bio’s are always at risk for being bought…which is GREAT! Work 3-5 years make a boatload of money, move to the next one, repeat! I’ve done it three times and looking for more.

Next I’m not sure who you are talking to at Alexion but that is not the feeling I get. They doubled their share price in a year which does a lot for morale, very little pressure because of the niche, and very low turnover, and decent base, bouns. Who cares about geography? If you are in a major metro the territories are normal, if you live in BFE it is big, just like every other oncology company. The people who left from Eisai to Alexion love it.

Onyx does not co-promote their MM drug, and with the kindey drug they do not ‘co-promote’ they have independent territories with no overlap or interaction with Bayer.

We seem to agree on Medivaiton, YM is ramping up and getting great senior leaders who have successfully launched companies and products so it is looking good so far.

Exelexis has a great culture and BMS has very limited input on the sales and marketing side, thus far. If that changes BMS actually has a decent culture in the oncology group when compared to most of the other big pharma oncology companies.

A couple more, Incyte comes to mind and I have a few friends there and so far so good, and great money.


Again I ask, what does Eisai offer? Eisai arguable has the weakest and least tenured leadership group in terms of oncology, No espp or options, awful training department, and just a horrific culture. Our turnover in oncology since bringing on the Ligand products and the MGI aquisiton has had to reach 90%. People vote with their feet and that was evident over the last 6 years.
 




You can mention all the reason this company is a bad place to work. However, we stay because the huge paycheck and our loving leader named OB. He gives us many words of encouragement. We go home thinking how much we are loved and respected by OB everyday. Thus, we are very content swimming in the muck.
 




You can mention all the reason this company is a bad place to work. However, we stay because the huge paycheck and our loving leader named OB. He gives us many words of encouragement. We go home thinking how much we are loved and respected by OB everyday. Thus, we are very content swimming in the muck.

Now that is funny!!!
 




Well you certainly have an interesting POV. Before I give you mine, what does Eisai have to offer over any of these companies, or any other oncology company for that matter? The culture here is toxic, morale is low, poor senior leadership with very little oncology experience, not great money, week pipeline and bad current oncology portfolio.

First any and all small to mid-cap bio’s are always at risk for being bought…which is GREAT! Work 3-5 years make a boatload of money, move to the next one, repeat! I’ve done it three times and looking for more.

Next I’m not sure who you are talking to at Alexion but that is not the feeling I get. They doubled their share price in a year which does a lot for morale, very little pressure because of the niche, and very low turnover, and decent base, bouns. Who cares about geography? If you are in a major metro the territories are normal, if you live in BFE it is big, just like every other oncology company. The people who left from Eisai to Alexion love it.

Onyx does not co-promote their MM drug, and with the kindey drug they do not ‘co-promote’ they have independent territories with no overlap or interaction with Bayer.

We seem to agree on Medivaiton, YM is ramping up and getting great senior leaders who have successfully launched companies and products so it is looking good so far.

Exelexis has a great culture and BMS has very limited input on the sales and marketing side, thus far. If that changes BMS actually has a decent culture in the oncology group when compared to most of the other big pharma oncology companies.

A couple more, Incyte comes to mind and I have a few friends there and so far so good, and great money.


Again I ask, what does Eisai offer? Eisai arguable has the weakest and least tenured leadership group in terms of oncology, No espp or options, awful training department, and just a horrific culture. Our turnover in oncology since bringing on the Ligand products and the MGI aquisiton has had to reach 90%. People vote with their feet and that was evident over the last 6 years.


BMS has the worse culture in Oncology- check out the cafe pharma board and you will see.
 




BMS is a mess in Onc. The whole company. A VP was busted for insider trading. Their pipeline is zilch. They have too many reps per territory stumbling over each other. Their bonus is LESS than Eisai target if you can believe that? Some biotech environment. LOL.
 




BMS has the worse culture in Oncology- check out the cafe pharma board and you will see.

Really? If CP is the litmus then Eisai is the worst company that ever existed, in any industry. BMS is not all that bad. I did five years there and certainly was better than Pfizer and Novartis. Also BMS has no sales and marketing oversight or management at Exelexis.
 




Really? If CP is the litmus then Eisai is the worst company that ever existed, in any industry. BMS is not all that bad. I did five years there and certainly was better than Pfizer and Novartis. Also BMS has no sales and marketing oversight or management at Exelexis.

Um yes lower bonus, too many reps. What's your response to that?
 




Um yes lower bonus, too many reps. What's your response to that?

The bonuses are all about the same at plan at most of these companies $35K to $45K, and at least BMS pays theirs in a timely manner and it can be trusted. Can’t say the same for Eisai! What does too many reps mean? They have big drugs in big tumors. Not salvage breast, supportive care and a dog MDS drug. Lastly for the reading comprehension impaired, BMS has no day to day management or influence on the sales marketing side of Exelixis, only a research partnership. Unless they buy them out which if they haven’t at $4 a share I’d be surprised if they do anytime soon.

That’s what I say to that.
 




Um BMS had a huge territory for a "specialty" Onc opening and only had a bonus of $28,000. Lol. Way too many reps no matter how big the drug. Eisai is much better situation with one rep per territory.
 




Um BMS had a huge territory for a "specialty" Onc opening and only had a bonus of $28,000. Lol. Way too many reps no matter how big the drug. Eisai is much better situation with one rep per territory.

Keep dreaming fucko. I'll take seeking new cutting edge drugs than our bootleg crap. 28k 35k who cares!!!!