Counter offer for FDE

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Did anyone that received an offer counter-offer the salary? If so, what was the result? Do you think it is a good idea? Also, did anyone get hired for a position other than their territory for which they interviewed?
 






Here was my situation. I was making 87k at Pfizer. Was laid off last year- need any job. Lilly offer was 76k- I told Lilly I was making 93k at Pfizer- showed them W2 form from 2009. They then countered offered me 93k to match- and I was told they could go no higher in salary. I'm the same pay grade as an "Executive" representative- what ever that means.

My situation is unique though because I have 7 years experience with an industry leading big pharma company- 2 of my last years was spent as a sales trainer. The 5 years I spent in sales- 3 of them I was president club. I had the success and pedigree to justify the higher salary- not many others do.

Hope this helps.
 




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Here was my situation. I was making 87k at Pfizer. Was laid off last year- need any job. Lilly offer was 76k- I told Lilly I was making 93k at Pfizer- showed them W2 form from 2009. They then countered offered me 93k to match- and I was told they could go no higher in salary. I'm the same pay grade as an "Executive" representative- what ever that means.

My situation is unique though because I have 7 years experience with an industry leading big pharma company- 2 of my last years was spent as a sales trainer. The 5 years I spent in sales- 3 of them I was president club. I had the success and pedigree to justify the higher salary- not many others do.

Hope this helps.
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Hope this helps? Cymbalta can help more ... at destroying your liver
 








The loser above who posted about his experience with Pfizer is officially a LIAR. I called and spoke with HR regarding a counter and was told that there is a cap and salaries are not negotiable for the fixed duration position i was offered. dont waste your time and don't listen to people who over inflate themselves.
 








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The loser above who posted about his experience with Pfizer is officially a LIAR. I called and spoke with HR regarding a counter and was told that there is a cap and salaries are not negotiable for the fixed duration position i was offered. dont waste your time and don't listen to people who over inflate themselves.
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I too call BS. That PFE poster may have countered an offer for a permanent position. The FDE jobs will definitely not go very high in salary. what do you expect from an FDE job? Jeez! They're for newbies or desperados. Not that there's anything wrong with that- just keeping it real.
 




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I too call BS. That PFE poster may have countered an offer for a permanent position. The FDE jobs will definitely not go very high in salary. what do you expect from an FDE job? Jeez! They're for newbies or desperados. Not that there's anything wrong with that- just keeping it real.
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Just keeping it real??? Right. Did you make yourself feel better about your current situation? Why is it that you, and others who have so willingly posted worthless BS about people who chose to accept a FDE position, have to make others feel inadequate or desperate for wanting a change in their life? I've got an idea, try to be happy for those of us that have chosen to take a new job. Be Nice!
 




Thank you above poster! Some of us are happy about the position, and it's a healthier way to live. Maybe some other reps have higher salaries, but don't make those that are starting a new career feel bad about the opportunity
 




Guys it's like dirty politics...put the other down in an effort to lift yourself up. Childish BS. Look, the only reason that FTE reps are giving FDE reps a hard time is because they are worried they will take their job. Right now, about 85% of the reps out there are living the easy life for as long as they can. If you come in and show them up then the half life of that "free ride" is diminished greatly. They would eventually lose their job anyway, you just might make it happen sooner. This is true...don't let anyone rationalize it any other way. Whenever there is an expansion of any sort people get nervous. I would hope like hell that the company hired the best available so I can make more money. But, others feel differently because they are little less self confident in their performance and effort.
 




I seem to have struck a nerve on post #7. I was just saying that the reality is people new to the industry or people who are laid off or have bad pharma job situations would take an FDE job. Don't misunderstand me. I also interviewed for the job because of impending lay offs. Not my first choice to work on a 2 year gig, but it's a paycheck and a good company. I would still take a permanent job over an FDE job when given a choice. Who wouldn't? I'm not dissing you. I may be working along side you.
 












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I seem to have struck a nerve on post #7. I was just saying that the reality is people new to the industry or people who are laid off or have bad pharma job situations would take an FDE job. Don't misunderstand me. I also interviewed for the job because of impending lay offs. Not my first choice to work on a 2 year gig, but it's a paycheck and a good company. I would still take a permanent job over an FDE job when given a choice. Who wouldn't? I'm not dissing you. I may be working along side you.
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Who wouldn't? Actually, I wouldn't. Having been in the industry before and caught up in big pharma mass layoffs along with my fellow high-performing award-winning reps, I actually prefer the idea of coming into a situation where I'm expected to perform well for a specific period of time...in this case, two years. It's nice for once not having to wonder and worry when the next shoe will drop. I know going into it that the job will most likely be done in two years and when that time comes, I will choose my next adventure.

So, my point is those of us choosing this type of position may be doing it for positive, not desperate, reasons. Others shouldn't judge when they don't have all the facts. I am a consultant with a particular skill set performing a job well on a specific project. Plain and simple. Uncluttered. Transparent.

Good luck to those who choose this path. For whatever reason.
 




If you think that the company has ANY obligation to keep you, you are setting yourself up for big disappointment.

I have seen people escorted out after a very short period. That being said, just spending an hour on site as an employee should entitle you to some benefit regardless.

However, don't sign any leases... it's all month to month, hey good luck.


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Who wouldn't? Actually, I wouldn't. Having been in the industry before and caught up in big pharma mass layoffs along with my fellow high-performing award-winning reps, I actually prefer the idea of coming into a situation where I'm expected to perform well for a specific period of time...in this case, two years. It's nice for once not having to wonder and worry when the next shoe will drop. I know going into it that the job will most likely be done in two years and when that time comes, I will choose my next adventure.

So, my point is those of us choosing this type of position may be doing it for positive, not desperate, reasons. Others shouldn't judge when they don't have all the facts. I am a consultant with a particular skill set performing a job well on a specific project. Plain and simple. Uncluttered. Transparent.

Good luck to those who choose this path. For whatever reason.
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Anonymous said:
If you think that the company has ANY obligation to keep you, you are setting yourself up for big disappointment.

I have seen people escorted out after a very short period. That being said, just spending an hour on site as an employee should entitle you to some benefit regardless.

However, don't sign any leases... it's all month to month, hey good luck.
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Wow! What is wrong with people? Why do you have to be so cynical???
 








Life doesn't have to be an "either/or" situation all the time. Just because you choose to look at a glass as half full doesn't mean that you're not cautious and guarded and prepared for the glass to spill unexpectedly. It also doesn't mean that you're drinking anyone's Koolaid.

Hope for the best (whatever "best" means for YOU) and prepare for the worst.
 




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Life doesn't have to be an "either/or" situation all the time. Just because you choose to look at a glass as half full doesn't mean that you're not cautious and guarded and prepared for the glass to spill unexpectedly. It also doesn't mean that you're drinking anyone's Koolaid.

Hope for the best (whatever "best" means for YOU) and prepare for the worst.
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Your Kool Aide seems to have fermented somewhat because you are talking nonsense.

Go to any cp company board and you willl hear the term K-A ... it may be an anachronism going back to the acid tests of the 1960s in fact ... if you know your history.

Eli Lilly made a kilogram of the stuff for the CIA.

So, some history for you, now don't you go repeating it.
 




Anonymous said:
Your Kool Aide seems to have fermented somewhat because you are talking nonsense.

Go to any cp company board and you willl hear the term K-A ... it may be an anachronism going back to the acid tests of the 1960s in fact ... if you know your history.

Eli Lilly made a kilogram of the stuff for the CIA.

So, some history for you, now don't you go repeating it.
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Actually, "drinking the kool-aid" refers to the Jim Jones cult mass suicide of 1978 where he ordered his flock to commit suicide by drinking grape kool-aid laced with potassium cyanide. Now it's used to mean don't blindly believe what someone tells you or don't believe too strongly what someone tells you.

Thanks for your attempt to enlighten me though. And it's a reference to an event, not an anachronism. That would be something like a microwave in a colonial kitchen...something out of place in time.
 




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