Carl-Fl DVP- Karma


I guess "truth" is in the eye of the beholder... I haven't read any "truth" on this thread whatsoever, but if this is your truth, so be it.
Stings? Hardly.
Again, people communicate by speaking directly, not anonymously.
I call it like I see it, it is an anonymous b*tch board. I haven't personally attacked anyone but every other post I read does.

We called it like we lived it. Sorry but your so full of bullshit! This administration has so many "bodies to bury" it's unreal. We did not start out this way, it's your management techniques that produced these results. People are humoring you to your face to save their pay. Its very plain and simple, your crazy and have delusions of grandeur. One thing you maybe missing is the fact that several of us on this board communicate outside of Cafe Pharma. We know who we are. You do not. Your troops are chasing you friend not following you.

You know better or should know better than to under estimate peoples abilities. Especially if you have been in Competitive Karate.
 








Great post to say you are happy but you are calling 50-60 people weak pathetic professionals? I have had great success in other medical sales and I am having success now. I am neither weak nor pathetic.
Xxxx

Who keeps a count on how many people leave in a company? The bottom 10%? I call those who call themselves professionals and get on here and spew lies pathetic losers. You know most of the stuff being posted are lies. The real grievances are being buried by it.

I think you will see more people speaking up against the lies (as clearly becoming evident).
 








Xxxx

Who keeps a count on how many people leave in a company? The bottom 10%? I call those who call themselves professionals and get on here and spew lies pathetic losers. You know most of the stuff being posted are lies. The real grievances are being buried by it.

I think you will see more people speaking up against the lies (as clearly becoming evident).

When 99% of the Sales Force has turned over within a year it's easy to keep track...
We all talk off the board as well...........Just not to you........Making management and
others being held accountable isn't spewing lies.........
I welcome your Vomit...I mean opinion...Just go th the Fact Board....
 








Xxxx

Who keeps a count on how many people leave in a company? The bottom 10%? I call those who call themselves professionals and get on here and spew lies pathetic losers. You know most of the stuff being posted are lies. The real grievances are being buried by it.

I think you will see more people speaking up against the lies (as clearly becoming evident).

Who keeps a count? It isn't hard math when your entire division turns over more then once. Bottom 10%? What are you talking about? Most people are gone within 90 days or less. In fact I would estimate 90% or more are gone within 90 days or less.
 








Hey XXXXX your post remind me of an SS Officer in Hitler's 3rd Reich making up excuses. Your opinion is so far incorrect I get the notion you are talking about an entire different company than Castle. In fact, your opinion is so adulterated it may not even be wrong?

I know thing for sure, SHOW ME THE MONEY ! CASTLE hasn't shown any of us any money. It's becoming a joke. HC1 is just a way to keep all of us off our game! How many accounts is Castle going to loose before they figure that HC1 isn't going to get them sales. It tracks them, DUGH!!!!! You and you group are proven losers. And it's happening today to you. More clinics dropping your services. Check that category on the IPad. XXXXXX. That will explain it all.

This is what happens when you have in effective management of a company. They go out of business. The reason I can figure why more of us haven't been fired is because you can't afford to train anymore. I wouldn't have this negative opinion of this deal except you used fraud to get a lot of us to quit our paying jobs for this .

SHOW US THE MONEY or your the JOKE XXXXX
 








We called it like we lived it. Sorry but your so full of bullshit! This administration has so many "bodies to bury" it's unreal. We did not start out this way, it's your management techniques that produced these results. People are humoring you to your face to save their pay. Its very plain and simple, your crazy and have delusions of grandeur. One thing you maybe missing is the fact that several of us on this board communicate outside of Cafe Pharma. We know who we are. You do not. Your troops are chasing you friend not following you.

You know better or should know better than to under estimate peoples abilities. Especially if you have been in Competitive Karate.

So anyone lacking this "burn Castle to the ground" mob mentality must be the administration? I have never been in Competitive Karate, but from what I am mostly reading (notwithstanding the real grievances), I believe the problem has been peoples' lack of abilities. I just don't understand why I (and the people I communicate with outside of cafepharma) have been kept if this administration is out to get the salesforce randomly. Could it be that I work the system and make it happen rather than make excuses for my failures? What management techniques kept you from being successful but pushed me to be better?
 








So anyone lacking this "burn Castle to the ground" mob mentality must be the administration? I have never been in Competitive Karate, but from what I am mostly reading (notwithstanding the real grievances), I believe the problem has been peoples' lack of abilities. I just don't understand why I (and the people I communicate with outside of cafepharma) have been kept if this administration is out to get the salesforce randomly. Could it be that I work the system and make it happen rather than make excuses for my failures? What management techniques kept you from being successful but pushed me to be better?

That's easy. My DVP and his bullshit micro management. You have no idea about sales if u believe just pulling door handles will make you successful. Do I really need I go any further with you. Your definitely Castle Dumb
 








"Burn Castle to the Ground?" Where do you get this? You are trying to dramatize things to the point of ridiculousness to stop a real conversation. Why are you still there? I can give you my opinion but it is only an opinion.

Castle wants immediate sales. If you sell accounts immediately then they praise you even if you stay at that number for months to come. If you are developing accounts they are blind to it. Your 100 today is the same as my 100 tomorrow. Castle does not have the sales experience or knowledge to know when an account manager is developing accounts that are more likely to be long term. Castle has had most of their success on the direct bill model which is illegal in some states and many physicians are hesitant of. This is evidenced by the fact that most of Castle's success is in the South where direct bill is prevalent.

That is why you are still there. You and a handful. Congratulations to you. Reality for most of us is that we worked hard and started to develop our territory and then were let go. End of story. The facts speak for themselves. You really have no say in this. Carrie on with your success and enjoy.
 








Hey XXXXX your post remind me of an SS Officer in Hitler's 3rd Reich making up excuses. Your opinion is so far incorrect I get the notion you are talking about an entire different company than Castle. In fact, your opinion is so adulterated it may not even be wrong?

I know thing for sure, SHOW ME THE MONEY ! CASTLE hasn't shown any of us any money. It's becoming a joke. HC1 is just a way to keep all of us off our game! How many accounts is Castle going to loose before they figure that HC1 isn't going to get them sales. It tracks them, DUGH!!!!! You and you group are proven losers. And it's happening today to you. More clinics dropping your services. Check that category on the IPad. XXXXXX. That will explain it all.

This is what happens when you have in effective management of a company. They go out of business. The reason I can figure why more of us haven't been fired is because you can't afford to train anymore. I wouldn't have this negative opinion of this deal except you used fraud to get a lot of us to quit our paying jobs for this .

SHOW US THE MONEY or your the JOKE XXXXX

If your grammar is any indication of your sales skills, it is no wonder you haven't been "shown the money". Or maybe English isn't your first language? In any case, let me try to decipher your nonsense and address your attempts at points...

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Xxxx didn't make up a single excuse, but rather addressed the many given on these threads for the poster's inadequacies. Xxxx went on to point out that many of us have become successful under the EXACT same circumstances you complain incessantly of and use as excuses for your failures.

"In fact, your opinion is so adulterated it may not even be wrong?" What does that even mean?

"CASTLE hasn't shown any of us any money" Projecting. Just because you and yours are ineffective and not making money, doesn't mean everyone is having your experience. Many of us are making good money! Castle is STILL growing despite your attempts to make people believe the contrary.

"HC1 is just a way to keep all of us off our game" More of the excuses for your failures that you people are famous for.

"You and you group are proven losers." Again with the Projecting... Let's try to stay in reality, not delusions in your head or begrudging comments spread by others. I and many others are the exact opposite of losers. Losers sit around and complain about why they can't do something, winners go out and do it. Winners find opportunity in adversity, Losers... well they just complain about the adversity.

"This is what happens when you have in effective management of a company. They go out of business." Or they fire the non producing people with all the excuses of why it can't be done and let the producers/believers take the company to new heights. We all have the same management as you, it is simply a matter of perception.

Go out of business? More clinics dropping Castle? So I guess the increasing weekly samples are the misinformation being spread rather than the BS your perpetuating? Right... Our Castle is Expanding... with or without you!

"you can't afford to train anymore." That statement truly shows your ignorance of business. In my experience, it cost way more to keep underperforming complainers than look for fresh, new talent.

"I wouldn't have this negative opinion of this deal except you used fraud to get a lot of us to quit our paying jobs for this." So let me get this straight, Castle called and pursued you. I was not aware that Castle hired headhunters to recruit the salesforce. Admittedly, I guess I wasn't worthy of pursuit as I answered an ad for employment because I was unhappy at my previous job.
Fraud... Hardly. They offered us all the same opportunity, not a guarantee. What you do with it is entirely on you. From your post, I am assuming that you are squandering it while blaming everything on management... Typical, those who complain the most accomplish the least.
 








So anyone lacking this "burn Castle to the ground" mob mentality must be the administration? I have never been in Competitive Karate, but from what I am mostly reading (notwithstanding the real grievances), I believe the problem has been peoples' lack of abilities. I just don't understand why I (and the people I communicate with outside of cafepharma) have been kept if this administration is out to get the salesforce randomly. Could it be that I work the system and make it happen rather than make excuses for my failures? What management techniques kept you from being successful but pushed me to be better?

When a DVP directs your every move everyday and insist on you doing it their way and it is terrible unsuccessful, Dawm right I'm blaming them! Whats a matter with you! I'm out here your too stupid to waist my time with
 








If your grammar is any indication of your sales skills, it is no wonder you haven't been "shown the money". Or maybe English isn't your first language? In any case, let me try to decipher your nonsense and address your attempts at points...

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Xxxx didn't make up a single excuse, but rather addressed the many given on these threads for the poster's inadequacies. Xxxx went on to point out that many of us have become successful under the EXACT same circumstances you complain incessantly of and use as excuses for your failures.

"In fact, your opinion is so adulterated it may not even be wrong?" What does that even mean?

"CASTLE hasn't shown any of us any money" Projecting. Just because you and yours are ineffective and not making money, doesn't mean everyone is having your experience. Many of us are making good money! Castle is STILL growing despite your attempts to make people believe the contrary.

"HC1 is just a way to keep all of us off our game" More of the excuses for your failures that you people are famous for.

"You and you group are proven losers." Again with the Projecting... Let's try to stay in reality, not delusions in your head or begrudging comments spread by others. I and many others are the exact opposite of losers. Losers sit around and complain about why they can't do something, winners go out and do it. Winners find opportunity in adversity, Losers... well they just complain about the adversity.

"This is what happens when you have in effective management of a company. They go out of business." Or they fire the non producing people with all the excuses of why it can't be done and let the producers/believers take the company to new heights. We all have the same management as you, it is simply a matter of perception.

Go out of business? More clinics dropping Castle? So I guess the increasing weekly samples are the misinformation being spread rather than the BS your perpetuating? Right... Our Castle is Expanding... with or without you!

"you can't afford to train anymore." That statement truly shows your ignorance of business. In my experience, it cost way more to keep underperforming complainers than look for fresh, new talent.

"I wouldn't have this negative opinion of this deal except you used fraud to get a lot of us to quit our paying jobs for this." So let me get this straight, Castle called and pursued you. I was not aware that Castle hired headhunters to recruit the salesforce. Admittedly, I guess I wasn't worthy of pursuit as I answered an ad for employment because I was unhappy at my previous job.
Fraud... Hardly. They offered us all the same opportunity, not a guarantee. What you do with it is entirely on you. From your post, I am assuming that you are squandering it while blaming everything on management... Typical, those who complain the most accomplish the least.

It's Cafe Pharma and it's anonymous! I don't want you to know who iam but u got the Maine point. I pulled you out of the closet didn't I and got you to reveal yourself . That was a quote from Dr. Weinburg, Astro Physicist about being wrong. Pick up a book other than some of that BS your spreading. I eat people like you for lunch. Ha ha ha havbahahab
 








If your grammar is any indication of your sales skills, it is no wonder you haven't been "shown the money". Or maybe English isn't your first language? In any case, let me try to decipher your nonsense and address your attempts at points...

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Xxxx didn't make up a single excuse, but rather addressed the many given on these threads for the poster's inadequacies. Xxxx went on to point out that many of us have become successful under the EXACT same circumstances you complain incessantly of and use as excuses for your failures.

"In fact, your opinion is so adulterated it may not even be wrong?" What does that even mean?

"CASTLE hasn't shown any of us any money" Projecting. Just because you and yours are ineffective and not making money, doesn't mean everyone is having your experience. Many of us are making good money! Castle is STILL growing despite your attempts to make people believe the contrary.

"HC1 is just a way to keep all of us off our game" More of the excuses for your failures that you people are famous for.

"You and you group are proven losers." Again with the Projecting... Let's try to stay in reality, not delusions in your head or begrudging comments spread by others. I and many others are the exact opposite of losers. Losers sit around and complain about why they can't do something, winners go out and do it. Winners find opportunity in adversity, Losers... well they just complain about the adversity.

"This is what happens when you have in effective management of a company. They go out of business." Or they fire the non producing people with all the excuses of why it can't be done and let the producers/believers take the company to new heights. We all have the same management as you, it is simply a matter of perception.

Go out of business? More clinics dropping Castle? So I guess the increasing weekly samples are the misinformation being spread rather than the BS your perpetuating? Right... Our Castle is Expanding... with or without you!

"you can't afford to train anymore." That statement truly shows your ignorance of business. In my experience, it cost way more to keep underperforming complainers than look for fresh, new talent.

"I wouldn't have this negative opinion of this deal except you used fraud to get a lot of us to quit our paying jobs for this." So let me get this straight, Castle called and pursued you. I was not aware that Castle hired headhunters to recruit the salesforce. Admittedly, I guess I wasn't worthy of pursuit as I answered an ad for employment because I was unhappy at my previous job.
Fraud... Hardly. They offered us all the same opportunity, not a guarantee. What you do with it is entirely on you. From your post, I am assuming that you are squandering it while blaming everything on management... Typical, those who complain the most accomplish the least.

Yall remember that one time when Rob talked about his OCD, sorry CDO and said he just could not get past poor grammar? Or that other time when he mentioned that is was more expensive to keep underperforming people on a recent conference call?


Umm, yeah.
 
















Yall remember that one time when Rob talked about his OCD, sorry CDO and said he just could not get past poor grammar? Or that other time when he mentioned that is was more expensive to keep underperforming people on a recent conference call?


Umm, yeah.

"Good English, well spoken and well written, will open more doors than a college degree. Bad grammar will slam doors you didn't even know existed." William Raspberry

I don't have OCD or CDO but it pains me to read poor grammar from an adult who is suppose to be a professional. I do remember Rob speaking to underperforming reps being expensive... I work here to. I have also owned my own company once upon a time and know this truth.

But, yeah, I must be Rob.
 








"Good English, well spoken and well written, will open more doors than a college degree. Bad grammar will slam doors you didn't even know existed." William Raspberry

I don't have OCD or CDO but it pains me to read poor grammar from an adult who is suppose to be a professional. I do remember Rob speaking to underperforming reps being expensive... I work here to. I have also owned my own company once upon a time and know this truth.

But, yeah, I must be Rob.

"I work here to"?! What an f-n' idiot!! The proper use would be, "I work here too". Now get off your soapbox and go crawl back into your hole where you belong. Moron...
 








"I work here to"?! What an f-n' idiot!! The proper use would be, "I work here too". Now get off your soapbox and go crawl back into your hole where you belong. Moron...

Although, you are correct and I missed an "o", I can refrain from name calling like a child when backed in a corner.

More of the same..... YAWN!
 
















So anyone lacking this "burn Castle to the ground" mob mentality must be the administration? I have never been in Competitive Karate, but from what I am mostly reading (notwithstanding the real grievances), I believe the problem has been peoples' lack of abilities. I just don't understand why I (and the people I communicate with outside of cafepharma) have been kept if this administration is out to get the salesforce randomly. Could it be that I work the system and make it happen rather than make excuses for my failures? What management techniques kept you from being successful but pushed me to be better?

First you are a not better than me.
Second you are not working the Lou system and being successful.
Third admin is not doing this randomly. It is systematic. If you could and had actually read everything you said you have here you would see it is not random. But systematic.
So Please I BEG you. Remove your head from your nether region znd try the actually comprehend what you have read.
 








If your grammar is any indication of your sales skills, it is no wonder you haven't been "shown the money". Or maybe English isn't your first language? In any case, let me try to decipher your nonsense and address your attempts at points...

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Xxxx didn't make up a single excuse, but rather addressed the many given on these threads for the poster's inadequacies. Xxxx went on to point out that many of us have become successful under the EXACT same circumstances you complain incessantly of and use as excuses for your failures.

"In fact, your opinion is so adulterated it may not even be wrong?" What does that even mean?

"CASTLE hasn't shown any of us any money" Projecting. Just because you and yours are ineffective and not making money, doesn't mean everyone is having your experience. Many of us are making good money! Castle is STILL growing despite your attempts to make people believe the contrary.

"HC1 is just a way to keep all of us off our game" More of the excuses for your failures that you people are famous for.

"You and you group are proven losers." Again with the Projecting... Let's try to stay in reality, not delusions in your head or begrudging comments spread by others. I and many others are the exact opposite of losers. Losers sit around and complain about why they can't do something, winners go out and do it. Winners find opportunity in adversity, Losers... well they just complain about the adversity.

"This is what happens when you have in effective management of a company. They go out of business." Or they fire the non producing people with all the excuses of why it can't be done and let the producers/believers take the company to new heights. We all have the same management as you, it is simply a matter of perception.

Go out of business? More clinics dropping Castle? So I guess the increasing weekly samples are the misinformation being spread rather than the BS your perpetuating? Right... Our Castle is Expanding... with or without you!

"you can't afford to train anymore." That statement truly shows your ignorance of business. In my experience, it cost way more to keep underperforming complainers than look for fresh, new talent.

"I wouldn't have this negative opinion of this deal except you used fraud to get a lot of us to quit our paying jobs for this." So let me get this straight, Castle called and pursued you. I was not aware that Castle hired headhunters to recruit the salesforce. Admittedly, I guess I wasn't worthy of pursuit as I answered an ad for employment because I was unhappy at my previous job.
Fraud... Hardly. They offered us all the same opportunity, not a guarantee. What you do with it is entirely on you. From your post, I am assuming that you are squandering it while blaming everything on management... Typical, those who complain the most accomplish the least.

Xxxx

Well written. Thank you for clarifying my point. This guy's wants me to show him the money. I go out and work my ass off everyday, master my craft, and I am suppose to show you the money??? Sure, how much can I send you every month? Dude, man up and go get your own like the rest of us. Show me the money...pathetic!!
 








Xxxx

Well written. Thank you for clarifying my point. This guy's wants me to show him the money. I go out and work my ass off everyday, master my craft, and I am suppose to show you the money??? Sure, how much can I send you every month? Dude, man up and go get your own like the rest of us. Show me the money...pathetic!!

Yep, I am delusional and yep I have a grammar problem too but what I do have is experience with several of the biggest medical sales companies in the world. And when you work/sale with/for these kinds of global professional sales organizations they provide accurate up to date sales numbers and transparent commission reports weekly, monthly and even daily to their sales force. You xxxx and your friend are so full of shit I can't hardly stand to work at the same company as you. You are a fraud, period