Can I retire yet?


That's not the issue. You need 3 million+ because people are living longer and retiring earlier. My plan projects money to last until I am 95, based on family history. Because of the need for healthcare and perhaps even long term care, financial planners project 3- 5 million. If you retire at 60, that's 35 years of income for which you need to plan. Now if you retire at 65 and die at 75, that's another story.

Did your family history reveal your hooded klan granddaddy?
 



That's not the issue. You need 3 million+ because people are living longer and retiring earlier. My plan projects money to last until I am 95, based on family history. Because of the need for healthcare and perhaps even long term care, financial planners project 3- 5 million. If you retire at 60, that's 35 years of income for which you need to plan. Now if you retire at 65 and die at 75, that's another story.

This guy gets it.
 



No actually he does not get it.
The income you need is contingent upon your lifestyle and expenses.
I don't care if you live an additional 50 yeas or 10.
You people simply ignore facts.

Take 1 million dollars. Invest that principal and receive on average an 8% rate of return. Take 40-50,000 annually in income plus your social security. Adjusting for inflation and you will never touch the principal. Have long term care insurance. If your debt free, then you are fine. It does not matter how long you live.
Anyone telling you different is lying. Financial planners are definitely lying. They get paid by the size of your portfolio they manage. It's in their best interest to scare you into thinking you need 5 million.
 



No actually he does not get it.
The income you need is contingent upon your lifestyle and expenses.
I don't care if you live an additional 50 yeas or 10.
You people simply ignore facts.

Take 1 million dollars. Invest that principal and receive on average an 8% rate of return. Take 40-50,000 annually in income plus your social security. Adjusting for inflation and you will never touch the principal. Have long term care insurance. If your debt free, then you are fine. It does not matter how long you live.
Anyone telling you different is lying. Financial planners are definitely lying. They get paid by the size of your portfolio they manage. It's in their best interest to scare you into thinking you need 5 million.

It's not 1980 gramps. This won't cut it. The general consensus is 3-5 million.
 






No actually he does not get it.
The income you need is contingent upon your lifestyle and expenses.
I don't care if you live an additional 50 yeas or 10.
You people simply ignore facts.

Take 1 million dollars. Invest that principal and receive on average an 8% rate of return. Take 40-50,000 annually in income plus your social security. Adjusting for inflation and you will never touch the principal. Have long term care insurance. If your debt free, then you are fine. It does not matter how long you live.
Anyone telling you different is lying. Financial planners are definitely lying. They get paid by the size of your portfolio they manage. It's in their best interest to scare you into thinking you need 5 million.

Nursing home costs are easily $100,000 per year--nothing fancy. Enough said.
 









I was layed off today, oops i mean displaced today. 53 married $3 M saved, no debt, house paid off 3 kids in college. I honestly feel no pressure to stress out any longer. We will live a modest lifestyle and are confident that we can make it last. I will claim SS at 62 and possibly supplement my income with a PT job doing something FUN. GOD Bless and good luck to all
 



I was layed off today, oops i mean displaced today. 53 married $3 M saved, no debt, house paid off 3 kids in college. I honestly feel no pressure to stress out any longer. We will live a modest lifestyle and are confident that we can make it last. I will claim SS at 62 and possibly supplement my income with a PT job doing something FUN. GOD Bless and good luck to all

Congrats. That 3M should definitely give you some breathing room.
 



I was layed off today, oops i mean displaced today. 53 married $3 M saved, no debt, house paid off 3 kids in college. I honestly feel no pressure to stress out any longer. We will live a modest lifestyle and are confident that we can make it last. I will claim SS at 62 and possibly supplement my income with a PT job doing something FUN. GOD Bless and good luck to all

I'm 51 and just made 2 M. I don't think I will ever retire.:mad::mad:
 



Retiring going forward will be very tricky. Eliminating SALT and other deductions in highly taxed states will have an intense impact. With eventual entitlement changes, people living longer, more responsibilities, outsourced jobs, changing job force careers. etc. Although very few people will live to be 95 or 90 for that matter many are living longer in 80's than previously. But mots will still died of heart disease, some cancers and pneumonia, etc.
 



sorry, u can’t retire
Social security is bankrupt
U need minnimum of 5 million. Less than 2 % of population will ever have that. 98% will need to work till u die. So fuck off and keep working somewhere.
 



sorry, u can’t retire
Social security is bankrupt
U need minnimum of 5 million. Less than 2 % of population will ever have that. 98% will need to work till u die. So fuck off and keep working somewhere.

You keep working somewhere chief. I will retire with my no debt and a million in the bank. Keep feeding your financial adviser's beach house account. Oh, and fuck off.
 



You keep working somewhere chief. I will retire with my no debt and a million in the bank. Keep feeding your financial adviser's beach house account. Oh, and fuck off.

I'll make 500k work so I won't have to deal with metrics, spreadsheets, ride alongs etc. Can't and don't want to last 20 years in this industry
 



I’m 62 layed off Hear soon here my numbers

pension $1,450,000.00
401k. $1,800,000.00
Ira. $300,000.00
Cash/invest. $350,000.00
House net. $300,000.00
Debt zero
Ssi at 62. $23,000.00 yr
Can I pull the plug
 



I’m 62 layed off Hear soon here my numbers

pension $1,450,000.00
401k. $1,800,000.00
Ira. $300,000.00
Cash/invest. $350,000.00
House net. $300,000.00
Debt zero
Ssi at 62. $23,000.00 yr
Can I pull the plug

That may work in a place like Roy Moore's Alabama or some other 3rd world country southern state but it won't work elsewhere
 



That may work in a place like Roy Moore's Alabama or some other 3rd world country southern state but it won't work elsewhere

How about you explain why that will not work outside of Alabama?

Zero debt, obviously been at Merck long enough to qualify for retiree health benefits until Medicare.
What is so expensive outside of Alabama that you can't make? Propert tax? Not in a 300,000 home.

Hmmmm, I am just not seeing your issue with this person retirement plan.
You could take just the pension benefits of 1.3 million, derive 60/70,000 annual income from that and never reduce the principal in 40 years if invested conservatively..
 



People posting on this board are either manipulating others or just ignorant

How can you say that 3 million or 5 million or any other figure you pull from arse is correct.

It's completely contingent upon your debt and lifestyle.
If you own your home and auto and your debt free then you can retire with very little in savings. In this scenario you could have a few hundred thousand and be fine. Obama care and other subsidies are based on income not assets. Therefore you could live in a million dollar home on a golf course at 60 years old, show less than 24K in annual income and exist just fine.

Let's say you own your home, debt free and have 1 million in savings. Take the million and get 7/8% annual return, adjust for inflation, pull out 50K per year. Your minimizing your tax liability, have spendable income and you will never touch your principal in your lifetime with social security. You don't need 5 million dollars.

Now, if you want to travel a great deal, buy new homes and new cars every year then your going to need more money. if your not Debt free, your going to need more money.


You are spot on! I’ll be 63 in a few months. Not with Merck but saw this topic. With a small pharma co. Miserable. Met with my Fidelity guy. I have a total of about 1.8 mil in 401k and savings. No debt. About 400k of that is in cash savings account. Took heat for not putting it in a Roth etc. but now glad I didn’t.

He told me to tell my company to kiss off and retire. Do not draw your SS but draw from that $400 in savings and show zero income to qualify for lower healthcare for the next 2 years.
 



Thanks been here 25 + having the free car from mother slowed me to invest what would have been car exspences plus I had 3 Merck relocations that I made money on. I’ve been lucky

Thanks for your thoughfull posting

Been here over 25 ye
How about you explain why that will not work outside of Alabama?

Zero debt, obviously been at Merck long enough to qualify for retiree health benefits until Medicare.
What is so expensive outside of Alabama that you can't make? Propert tax? Not in a 300,000 home.

Hmmmm, I am just not seeing your issue with this person retirement plan.
You could take just the pension benefits of 1.3 million, derive 60/70,000 annual income from that and never reduce the principal in 40 years if invested conservatively..
 




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