Boston Sci Solyx

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Anonymous said:
Blah blah blah!!! Typical BSX, always talking and full of themselves. If your company is so strong, why is your stock price so low. Why is it, that no matter where I go, there is always a big-headed BSX rep full of hot air. I make a living taking your market share from hospital in my territory. Yes, I have successfully closed your company out of many hospitals. Wow! Let me tell you; it was soooo hard! Give me a break and get over yourselves.
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You sound exactly the same as the BSX rep you are trying to put down. Who do you work for?
 






Great news! There are 2 of us reps sellling MiniArc w/in a large geographic area - competing against one BSC rep and their Solyx Sling. 1 of my docs tried it - and hated it. The other rep had 5 docs try it - and initially like it...but - then patients started complaining about pain, leaking, and some of the docs couldn't stand the overall device - it didn't do what the BSC rep told them it would (adjustable! yeah right!). So - out of the 8 docs that tried it - not one stayed with it!

And in the meantime - I have personally taken 3 more BSC Obtryx users and converted them over to MiniArc. Keep it up BSC! Great job!
 






Anonymous said:
Great news! There are 2 of us reps sellling MiniArc w/in a large geographic area - competing against one BSC rep and their Solyx Sling. 1 of my docs tried it - and hated it. The other rep had 5 docs try it - and initially like it...but - then patients started complaining about pain, leaking, and some of the docs couldn't stand the overall device - it didn't do what the BSC rep told them it would (adjustable! yeah right!). So - out of the 8 docs that tried it - not one stayed with it!

And in the meantime - I have personally taken 3 more BSC Obtryx users and converted them over to MiniArc. Keep it up BSC! Great job!
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Who taught you math: 1 of your docs and the other rep had 5, how does that equal 8?
By the way, you are full of it. I have converted multiple miniarc docs to solyx and they continue to use it and say it is overall a much better device. Pain and leaking is a bunch of crap. I have well over 50 placed in my territory in a few months and have not heard a single complaint/failure.
By the way, you better get ready, now that pinnacle posterior is out ams is really going to be on the defensive with elevate. Blows away the hokey elevate.
We will wait for your next post telling us elevate is awesome and how bad pinnacle is, and how your doctors don't like it... Same old lame story while docs keep converting over.
 


















Really??? I am a painful survivor of the Obtryx mesh--I dont have to be a Dr to know that the erosion that it has caused & is still going to cause Is absolutely absurd. Maybe try having some surgically inserted into yourself & let a little erosion happen and after you have spent into the 5 digits to correct the trouble you may feel differently---This material should be banned from the market---How dare Boston Scientific make many many peoples lives miserable for the sake of a $$-----

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All aboard the Solyx Train!

This sling rocks.

One month in, 4 for 4 on top MiniArc user conversions. TVT-O is next!

No negative selling necessary, just put it in their hands and they get it... "just a better designed product."
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Anonymous said:
Really??? I am a painful survivor of the Obtryx mesh--I dont have to be a Dr to know that the erosion that it has caused & is still going to cause Is absolutely absurd. Maybe try having some surgically inserted into yourself & let a little erosion happen and after you have spent into the 5 digits to correct the trouble you may feel differently---This material should be banned from the market---How dare Boston Scientific make many many peoples lives miserable for the sake of a $$-----
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Pretty interesting that a "patient" would be trolling this site.
Where did you have your Obtryx done?
Why do you believe you have the answer as to why erosions occur? Let us know...
 






Anonymous said:
Ok, let me get this straight - you are concerned about soliciting your FELLOW PHYSICIAN'S input based on his possible BIAS, so your logical next step is to come to the MANUFACTURER'S thread to get the "truth"?

Unless of course you are seeking an answer to your mirthful assumption that "Boston like slings ending in "yx", in which case I am confident you will get an answer to that you can bank on.

Otherwise, if you are looking for the answer to your "What is going on with [Boston's] new single-incision sling?" Try this:

DESIGNED TO IMPROVE SAFETY, EFFICACY, AND PROCEDURE TIME. The Solyx System is designed to improve safety, efficacy and procedure time. Placement of the sling that is outside the pelvic bowl potentially reduces the incidence of organ and vascular injury. Solyx makes all other slings look like worthless shit.

You were a philosophy undergrad, weren't you?
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Way to take control...........can you back that up with data? Of course not, but you can say that it works on 60% of patients. Just go with a regular sling......... minisling is just convenient for physician, not patient's efficacy. You do sound intelligent through a blog though.
 






Anonymous said:
So foolish. For those who continue to question the quality of the BSCI sling line I would challenge any other vendor to try and walk into a hospital and convert the entire account. The only company that can do that is BSC. We've done it with our stents, Urology division, etc and now we're going to do it in Women's Health with our MUS line as well. For those that continue to challenge the quality and performance of our products continue to do that in your conversations with your customers and we'll gladly finish that conversion for you. Regards and see you in the OR.
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Ha! you really think you sell off of data or results?! reallly? BS has built its stronghold off of marketing cash push............u have nothing else. Hey doc, I'll pay you to do this or we'll support you in this...........clinical data is a joke when it comes to BS. "pay me and I will say or manipulate anything you want. Don't drink the koolaid.
 






Anonymous said:
Solyx = money maker. TVT secur and MiniArc created the space, easy pickings with a simply better version of the MiniArc.

Not much to debate.
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No way!!!!! BS pushes a product for physicians to make extra money and have not absolute benefit to the patient?!??!? Well, that's just crazy.............but i agree
 






Anonymous said:
Are you kidding? You must be smoking crack...You are trying to say that AMS pricing is LESS than Boston's? Our list prices are much higher - and we like to keep them that way to fund the research/data that we have and you don't!

There is a link available but I am not going to give it to you. Do a little homework and find it yourself...it is really easy to find.

No - Elevate isn't a "me too" product. We have been developing it long before Pinnacle came out. When you don't copy everyone else, you actually have to do R & D and come up with your own ideas...so that takes time. I know this makes sense - you probably didn't think it through all the way. We came out with posterior first because in talking with tons of docs they told us that they felt the apical portion of the posterior compartment was the place they needed the most help fixing...anterior was being handled adequately by Perigee. So is there any data that says anterior is better?

How can I knock Capio? Just that the doc who was the co-inventor doesn't even use it any more - ever, for one. Second - about 80% of the docs I know hate the thing...always having to reload it, etc. And, it is tough to use properly. Speaking of Pinnacle - why are there 40 complications reported to the FDA in the very short 6 months it has been out - and only 18 for Perigee in the over FOUR YEARS it has been out? Let's see - um...because your product sucks! Here is the link for that one:

40 records meeting your search criteria returned - Manufacturer: " Boston Scientific " BrandName: " Pinnacle " ReportDateFrom: " 01/01/2008 " ReportDateTo: " 10/31/2008 "
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Manufacturer Brand Name Date Report Received
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 10/22/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 10/15/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 10/08/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 10/08/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 10/08/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 09/24/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 09/19/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 09/18/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 09/05/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 09/05/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 09/04/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 09/03/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 08/29/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 08/28/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 08/27/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 08/18/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 08/14/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 08/14/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 08/14/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 08/13/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 08/13/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE FLOOR REPAI 08/08/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE FLOOR REPAI 08/07/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 07/11/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 07/11/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 07/11/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 07/10/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 07/10/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 07/09/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 07/03/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 07/03/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 06/26/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 06/20/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 06/16/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 06/13/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 06/06/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 05/30/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 05/29/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 05/29/2008
BOSTON SCIENTIFIC CO PINNACLE PELVIC FLOO 05/13/2008

Database last updated on October 31, 2008



PERIGEE search - notice the dates 1/1/2004 - to present


18 records meeting your search criteria returned - Manufacturer: " American Medical Systems " BrandName: " Perigee " ReportDateFrom: " 01/01/2004 " ReportDateTo: " 10/31/2008 "
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Manufacturer Brand Name Date Report Received
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 05/15/2008
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 05/15/2008
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 02/08/2008
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 02/07/2008
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 01/21/2008
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 12/18/2007
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE SYSTEM 10/29/2007
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 08/30/2007
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 06/21/2007
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 03/28/2007
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 03/22/2007
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 08/10/2006
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 07/27/2006
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 06/19/2006
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 06/06/2006
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 05/10/2006
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 05/10/2006
AMERICAN MEDICAL SYS PERIGEE 03/18/2005

Database last updated on October 31, 2008

Don't believe this? Go to http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfMAUDE/search.CFM
and type "Pinnacle" into the box that says "brandname" and "Boston Scientific" into the box that says "Manufacturer". Do the same for Perigee and American Medical Systems.

By the way, if you type Obtryx into the brandname and Boston into manufacturer, and compare it to Monarc - which has been out a LOT longer - and we have done way more procedures - the same thing happens - BOSTON has way more reported complications/problems...why is this a common theme? Because your products are 2nd class, bottom feeder pieces of crap!

No data on your Sling mesh, your Pinnacle mesh, the procedures, etc. I personally know a proctor for your company who WALKED OUT OF A TRAINING SESSION HE WAS LEADING because the Boston reps sent a bunch of docs who didn't even know how to do a TOT sling to learn Pinnacle. Quality Boston Scientific at its best.

Any more questions I can answer for you?
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that was actually pretty good........funny, but I wouldn't try to use data requests on mesh.....doesn't make any sense. Mesh is mesh, it all works, as long as you have that 700um pore size. I know its approximately 70um, but u know what i'm saying. good quote though.
 


















i was a patient for the min arc and it really made my vagina feel uncomfortable. it also felt itchy and got swollen. i had them take it out and put in the solyx and WOW it feels great down there now, especially the orgasms my god lol
 






I think all of you women's health reps are douchebags for fighting about your uninteresting products on CF. Bottom line best rep always wins! Most of you won't even be selling this shit in a couple of years anyway and you'll be pretending to be experts on your new products with your 2-6 week MD degree.
 






Anonymous said:
I think all of you women's health reps are douchebags for fighting about your uninteresting products on CF. Bottom line best rep always wins! Most of you won't even be selling this shit in a couple of years anyway and you'll be pretending to be experts on your new products with your 2-6 week MD degree.
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AGREE!
 






I had the Solyx SIS put in, and it has migrated from the mid-uretheral position into the neck and lower wll of the bladder- i now have to have part of my bladder removed. It is a terrible product that has caused me much misery
 






Read the latest FDA notification....they want the physicians to use obturator and retropubic slings, NOT mini-slings. They are requiring more post survelliance data with the mini-slings. Mini-slings SUCK. The data, or lack of is terrible. I love the mini-arc study that the success rate was 44%. They work ok for a year, then they all come back leaking. Brilliant!

I hate to say it, but TVT is the only tried and true. I don't sell TVT, but I do know the data.
 






Anonymous said:
Read the latest FDA notification....they want the physicians to use obturator and retropubic slings, NOT mini-slings. They are requiring more post survelliance data with the mini-slings. Mini-slings SUCK. The data, or lack of is terrible. I love the mini-arc study that the success rate was 44%. They work ok for a year, then they all come back leaking. Brilliant!

I hate to say it, but TVT is the only tried and true. I don't sell TVT, but I do know the data.
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How nice that the Monarc Sling was found to be "not inferior" to the TVT. So its at least equal to TVT. Oh yeah - it has less de novo urgency post op, less bladder perfs, and less retention than TVT. With 8 years of data now...hmm what would you use?

And mini-slings don't suck. Some people just don't know how to put them in properly.
 






How interesting to read this 2 years later, and with multiple lawsuits brought against these companies, and these companies losing horribly.

Turns out BSC had no research at all when they came out with this shit. They bought and used non medical polypropylene from companies that had specific instructions that the stuff should not be used in humans. BSC got around this by creating a dummy company.

Good job representatives, you did a bang up job selling shit, and ruining lives. But I guess you don't need a conscious when you're a mindless twit selling whatever to make a living.
 






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