Blacklisting ..yes it happens

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Good to hear!

Long timer in publi and know the benefits of long repeat performance rep gigs ..Putting in big time for a chump change contract gets you another chump change contract!
 






Don't think a company like PSS is capable of blacklisting. They are lucky to get enough qualified candidates. Sure, they get a lot of applications, but most (probably over 80 percent) of their applicants cannot sell.
 






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Don't think a company like PSS is capable of blacklisting. They are lucky to get enough qualified candidates. Sure, they get a lot of applications, but most (probably over 80 percent) of their applicants cannot sell.
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That's endemic to all pharma companies. If you have had a contract and it ends or interview and don't get the gig, you are on the list forever
 






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That's endemic to all pharma companies. If you have had a contract and it ends or interview and don't get the gig, you are on the list forever
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Bull. Best assessment of that is it could be not many contracts in your area, or the hiring managers has a buddy or some inexperienced kid in mind for the job. Big award winners are being left out in the cold.

Some think all people who apply for contract are third rate or outcasts. Grossly untrue. The reality is the entire industry is drying up so these jobs are good options. These same managers have gone through layoffs just like the reps. Some superb reps and mangers are in line for jobs.
 












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Bull. Best assessment of that is it could be not many contracts in your area, or the hiring managers has a buddy or some inexperienced kid in mind for the job. Big award winners are being left out in the cold.

Some think all people who apply for contract are third rate or outcasts. Grossly untrue. The reality is the entire industry is drying up so these jobs are good options. These same managers have gone through layoffs just like the reps. Some superb reps and mangers are in line for jobs.
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Absolutely agree.

Also, you have to be in a good job market to handle the layoffs, if you want to have any stability in this industry.

If you are in a bad market (Flint, Michigan, for example), you are in a situation where you are going to have a lot of difficultly getting back into the industry. However, in an area like Flint, you should be OK, financially, with a terrible sales job, as the cost of living in low.

In areas like NYC, Chicago, LA, you are good to go. There are tons of jobs there, because of the population. Also, I think many white collar professionals don't care so much about selling pills or can find better sales jobs than pharmaceuticals in these areas.

As for PSS, I wouldn't work there unless that was the only option available. The company treats everyone like a ex con during training. However, after the training, you are good to go. Its a weird company, that is for sure, and I think the stupid French culture that they are a part of , has something to do with that.
 






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Absolutely agree.

Also, you have to be in a good job market to handle the layoffs, if you want to have any stability in this industry.

If you are in a bad market (Flint, Michigan, for example), you are in a situation where you are going to have a lot of difficultly getting back into the industry. However, in an area like Flint, you should be OK, financially, with a terrible sales job, as the cost of living in low.

In areas like NYC, Chicago, LA, you are good to go. There are tons of jobs there, because of the population. Also, I think many white collar professionals don't care so much about selling pills or can find better sales jobs than pharmaceuticals in these areas.

As for PSS, I wouldn't work there unless that was the only option available. The company treats everyone like a ex con during training. However, after the training, you are good to go. Its a weird company, that is for sure, and I think the stupid French culture that they are a part of , has something to do with that.
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Jobs are not plentiful in ny city area market, massive competition.
 






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Jobs are not plentiful in ny city area market, massive competition.
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Grew up in the Bronx, and there are tons of sales jobs.
Pharmaceutical sales is a dime a dozen in NYC.
There are only three places to sell in NYC, in order: S.Island, L. Island, and the Bronx. Those other two piece of shit places, Manhattan and Brooklyn are for those who don't know anything about NYC.
 






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Grew up in the Bronx, and there are tons of sales jobs.
Pharmaceutical sales is a dime a dozen in NYC.
There are only three places to sell in NYC, in order: S.Island, L. Island, and the Bronx. Those othehr two piece of shit places, Manhattan and Brooklyn are for those who don't know anything about NYC.
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You mean to say the people who have taken over NYC who have the real money versus people who have struggled for generations basically into living almost in poverty... It's so sad but true. It takes so much $$$, the very wealthy live like the average middle class American and the very poor live like ...well... barely able to keep their head above water.
 






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Grew up in the Bronx, and there are tons of sales jobs.
Pharmaceutical sales is a dime a dozen in NYC.
There are only three places to sell in NYC, in order: S.Island, L. Island, and the Bronx. Those other two piece of shit places, Manhattan and Brooklyn are for those who don't know anything about NYC.
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Bronx rep who says the Bronx is not the Bronx from even 5 years ago.....

Anywhere around ny city and outlying areas is huge competition for jobs.....tons of good reps.
 






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Bronx rep who says the Bronx is not the Bronx from even 5 years ago.....

Anywhere around ny city and outlying areas is huge competition for jobs.....tons of good reps.
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No doubt the best sales professionals are in NYC. They are polished, smart, and work hard. However, there are TONS of jobs in that area. No excuses to not have something decent, if you have the education and are willing to take risks and not afraid of "life".
 






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No doubt the best sales professionals are in NYC. They are polished, smart, and work hard.
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LOL, a bunch of "Bro's" with bad tans, greasy hair, a suit they had to max out a credit card to pay for, oh and a nice coke habit just for kicks, yes, very polished.

The thing that makes NYC what it is is all of the people NOT from NYC who go there to work. The locals are mainly a cross between Artie Lang and the casting rejects from the Jersey Shore
 






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LOL, a bunch of "Bro's" with bad tans, greasy hair, a suit they had to max out a credit card to pay for, oh and a nice coke habit just for kicks, yes, very polished.

The thing that makes NYC what it is is all of the people NOT from NYC who go there to work. The locals are mainly a cross between Artie Lang and the casting rejects from the Jersey Shore
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You must be a Boston Bum...worst place to sell.

Most born breed New Yorkers are the sharpest people on the planet, and its by a long shot, much sharper than LA or Chicago.
 


















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No doubt the best sales professionals are in NYC. They are polished, smart, and work hard. However, there are TONS of jobs in that area. No excuses to not have something decent, if you have the education and are willing to take risks and not afraid of "life".
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Fierce competition in NY from a sharp and good rep.

If you have education you will miss the hot jobs to double masters degree MBA reps who are VP repeats. That is what's it's all about in NY. They like them young there too. Better be under 40, oldest 45 unless you are a direct referral from a manager high up on the inside. Tough market for the strong older reps who need work.
 












Kardashians are very much LA in attitude. Maybe they look ethnic. I get where you see that. Just as long as they're not ride Jersey dumb biscuits...now that's annoying and unattractive.
 






They do blacklist and although there are clear laws against what they are doing and what they have done in the past; the laws are not being enforced because no checks and balances are in place. My suggestion is to move on outside of this industry and cut all ties with anyone associated with PSD. Its not hard because most people that are normal, educated, and level headed have gone in a better direction. Just like they have pushed you out, you need to make darn well sure that you have nothing to do with ANY of these people. That person that calls you every day "to check on you and see how you are doing" is not worth the risk.

I saw what they did to some people a little while back. I was lucky enough to move onto another contract, but they buried these other people that were fired. Its way messed up. Outside of my contract, I will have nothing to do with ANY of these people.
 






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