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The troll bashing this company has poor industry insight:

1. I can guarnatee you that the Imbruvica rep will not be showing that "failed" trial anytime soon. It shows a similiar response rate with deeper responses, a trend to os and pfs and a much better safety profile. That trial will put patients on Brukinsa.

2. RSU's are a safer way to obtain equity. Options may provide greater leverage to make big money if you get them consistently, like Celgene, but RSU's have a strike of zero so anytime the company gets bought out or has a "failed" trial you are not automatically underwater.

Stop being a hater that you did not get the job. The industry is risky. Why would you want others to fail? Karma baby!
 




Your safety profile is baloney.. let see a true superiority trial!! Or just even a legit inferiority trial!! It isn’t even priced properly to create a value base proposition.
 




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Chairman Mao & President Xi welcome you to the fold. We are glad many Americans have seen the light and prioritize money above everything else.
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Prepare to provide access to your facebook and Linked in account as a condition for employment. If you post anything in favor of Hong Kong you will be sent to reeducation camp
 




anonymous said:
The troll bashing this company has poor industry insight:

1. I can guarnatee you that the Imbruvica rep will not be showing that "failed" trial anytime soon. It shows a similiar response rate with deeper responses, a trend to os and pfs and a much better safety profile. That trial will put patients on Brukinsa.


2. RSU's are a safer way to obtain equity. Options may provide greater leverage to make big money if you get them consistently, like Celgene, but RSU's have a strike of zero so anytime the company gets bought out or has a "failed" trial you are not automatically underwater.

Stop being a hater that you did not get the job. The industry is risky. Why would you want others to fail? Karma baby!
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No one is hating just bringing up some differing points of view...

Safer? Who wants safer? You don’t lay any money out for your options either...both are all up side and if the share price falls well below your strike price you have bigger issues and guessing you’re not walking away with much on your zero dollar strike price. I’ll gladly take the “risk” to get double or triple the amount of options which is typically the ratio at good companies at sign on-2 or 3 options to every one RSU. That is where you make your money. You will not make any money with the small amount of RSU’s you received. $125k worth is literally peanuts. Why would you go to a company that you do not believe will be wildly successful where the share price increase and where having options, not RSU will make you the money? It’s not the spread it’s the volume of shares you hold. The “at least I’ll get something if the stock drops” makes very little sense as neither will pay out all that much of that happens. Always take the big upside in this business versus hedging for the downside as you are not laying any cash out anyway. Lastly where Beigene will be limited in creating wealth is they will not and cannot be bought and that will not allow the crazy premiums you see with big buy outs where companies are getting 2 to 3 times current share price. That is where the wealth is created. Look if you were laid off or out of work and this is the only job you could get or you were in big Pharma oncology and were looking for something different sure I could see this making sense but don’t tell us you’re going to walk away with a few million on this deal...it will never happen. Heck, the product might not even do that well and save the pipeline stuff...pretty sure the PD-1 and PARP markets have been developed and dominated...good luck cracking that code.
 




anonymous said:
No one is hating just bringing up some differing points of view...

Safer? Who wants safer? You don’t lay any money out for your options either...both are all up side and if the share price falls well below your strike price you have bigger issues and guessing you’re not walking away with much on your zero dollar strike price. I’ll gladly take the “risk” to get double or triple the amount of options which is typically the ratio at good companies at sign on-2 or 3 options to every one RSU. That is where you make your money. You will not make any money with the small amount of RSU’s you received. $125k worth is literally peanuts. Why would you go to a company that you do not believe will be wildly successful where the share price increase and where having options, not RSU will make you the money? It’s not the spread it’s the volume of shares you hold. The “at least I’ll get something if the stock drops” makes very little sense as neither will pay out all that much of that happens. Always take the big upside in this business versus hedging for the downside as you are not laying any cash out anyway. Lastly where Beigene will be limited in creating wealth is they will not and cannot be bought and that will not allow the crazy premiums you see with big buy outs where companies are getting 2 to 3 times current share price. That is where the wealth is created. Look if you were laid off or out of work and this is the only job you could get or you were in big Pharma oncology and were looking for something different sure I could see this making sense but don’t tell us you’re going to walk away with a few million on this deal...it will never happen. Heck, the product might not even do that well and save the pipeline stuff...pretty sure the PD-1 and PARP markets have been developed and dominated...good luck cracking that code.
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There were a few Celgene reps who desperately ran to Beigene as they were passed over for the CarT roles.
 
























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The last company I’d work for is one with communist ties. Wtf are you all thinking now ?
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It’s going to come out that through sheer incompetence followed by deceit, lies, and a corrupt culture China is responsible for the world wide spread of this disease and the death and destruction left in its wake. Shame on all of you if you don’t immediately look for another job. #americafirst
 




anonymous said:
It’s going to come out that through sheer incompetence followed by deceit, lies, and a corrupt culture China is responsible for the world wide spread of this disease and the death and destruction left in its wake. Shame on all of you if you don’t immediately look for another job. #americafirst
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Can’t imagine customers EVER welcoming Beigene company representatives into their offices. It’s going to be hard enough for respected companies to have any access yet alone a communist China company!
 




You all should really give it a rest and stay on your own board. Clearly, you didn’t get the job because then you would know it’s not a Chinese company. Do you even know who the cofounder is? Go back to the racist hole you crawled out of and STFU.
 




anonymous said:
You all should really give it a rest and stay on your own board. Clearly, you didn’t get the job because then you would know it’s not a Chinese company. Do you even know who the cofounder is? Go back to the racist hole you crawled out of and STFU.
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It’s a Chinese headquartered company so stop the BS! Btw, no interest in working there or anywhere. Nice try
 




anonymous said:
It’s a Chinese headquartered company so stop the BS! Btw, no interest in working there or anywhere. Nice try
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No interest in working anywhere is the key to your comment. Somebody is bored, lazy, and just does quick Google searches. You should research more before you continue with your false narrative. BeiGene was founded in Beijing, but has a global presence with multiple offices and NO headquarters. This is contrary to the Google search that provides a company overview that you probably relied on.

As far as the Chinese argument goes, good luck with buying manufactured in America only products. By the way, Imbruvica (Abbvie/Janssen) is made in Guangzhu Nansha, China. Brukinsa (BeiGene) is made in Kansas City, MO.
 




anonymous said:
No interest in working anywhere is the key to your comment. Somebody is bored, lazy, and just does quick Google searches. You should research more before you continue with your false narrative. BeiGene was founded in Beijing, but has a global presence with multiple offices and NO headquarters. This is contrary to the Google search that provides a company overview that you probably relied on.

As far as the Chinese argument goes, good luck with buying manufactured in America only products. By the way, Imbruvica (Abbvie/Janssen) is made in Guangzhu Nansha, China. Brukinsa (BeiGene) is made in Kansas City, MO.
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Taken from company website. Enough said!

Changping Qu, CN (HQ)
30 Science Park Road, Zhong-Guan-Cun Life Science Park
 




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