Be wise

[anonymous]

India allows you the luxury of a million inequalities. You can be a schoolboy selling tea to passengers sitting in a state transport bus, but you are royalty when compared to a shirtless, barefoot village boy, from what was traditionally considered an untouchable caste, living on snails and small fish - and sometimes rats. American employees should kindly take note and do the needy.

 

[anonymous]

India allows you the luxury of a million inequalities. You can be a schoolboy selling tea to passengers sitting in a state transport bus, but you are royalty when compared to a shirtless, barefoot village boy, from what was traditionally considered an untouchable caste, living on snails and small fish - and sometimes rats. American employees should kindly take note and do the needy.

Eat shit

 

[anonymous]

India allows you the luxury of a million inequalities. You can be a schoolboy selling tea to passengers sitting in a state transport bus, but you are royalty when compared to a shirtless, barefoot village boy, from what was traditionally considered an untouchable caste, living on snails and small fish - and sometimes rats. American employees should kindly take note and do the needy.

My friend, spoken like a true prophet.

 

[anonymous]

My friend, spoken like a true prophet.

Either Abhay or one of his cronies

 

[anonymous]

Sun is taking American market share by storm. We now have #1 Sun has a billion dollar a year drug that will bring us much wealth.

 

[anonymous]

We will conquer and then celebrate well into the night. We are the smartest people on Earth.

 

[anonymous]

Sun is taking American market share by storm. We now have #1 Sun has a billion dollar a year drug that will bring us much wealth.

Sun put Ilumya into the hands of FL & ST. We saw how that turned out. That only time billion will be used in the same sentence as Sun is when referring to criminal fines, patients killed by dirty manufacturing or number of former workers.

 

[anonymous]

Sun put Ilumya into the hands of FL & ST. We saw how that turned out. That only time billion will be used in the same sentence as Sun is when referring to criminal fines, patients killed by dirty manufacturing or number of former workers.

Sun poached from UCB and UCB poached right back. FL & ST try not to ruin lives like you did at Sun. You knew at NSM you were leaving just like the other people in the room. Good luck UCB. Can’t blame the Hub for what’s going on at Sun but the two UCB has steering their ship now.

 

[anonymous]

Sun poached from UCB and UCB poached right back. FL & ST try not to ruin lives like you did at Sun. You knew at NSM you were leaving just like the other people in the room. Good luck UCB. Can’t blame the Hub for what’s going on at Sun but the two UCB has steering their ship now.

I don't blame them for leaving. I also wouldn't go to work for them again.

 

[anonymous]

Sun obtained talent by lying about the drug, the company and opportunities for career advancement. There is none. Everyone who isn’t selected to be part of the new good ole boys club is screwed. I can’t wait until the day when my resume shows Sun in my past. What a shit hole.

 

[anonymous]

Sun obtained talent by lying about the drug, the company and opportunities for career advancement. There is none. Everyone who isn’t selected to be part of the new good ole boys club is screwed. I can’t wait until the day when my resume shows Sun in my past. What a shit hole.

SUN did not lie. You Ilumya bozos just did not do the right homework. SUN's reputation was out there and the Merck Tildra data was published. KOLs knew the story. You just did not ask. It's like offering a review without reading the book. You get what you deserve. Good or bad, if you had expected SUN leaders to tell the entire truth and not sell the open positions, you are foolish. Survival to the fittest and the fittest have already left.

 

[anonymous]

SUN did not lie. You Ilumya bozos just did not do the right homework. SUN's reputation was out there and the Merck Tildra data was published. KOLs knew the story. You just did not ask. It's like offering a review without reading the book. You get what you deserve. Good or bad, if you had expected SUN leaders to tell the entire truth and not sell the open positions, you are foolish. Survival to the fittest and the fittest have already left.

You must have been in management to even write this. Check the dates. Data on tildra not published at hiring time. Management knew but didn’t share. I for asked for the data and was told it was as good as Tremfya. A bold face lie from a manager that probably still continues to lie at Sun. Sun was by all accounts the worst experience everyone had in this industry.

 

[anonymous]

You must have been in management to even write this. Check the dates. Data on tildra not published at hiring time. Management knew but didn’t share. I for asked for the data and was told it was as good as Tremfya. A bold face lie from a manager that probably still continues to lie at Sun. Sun was by all accounts the worst experience everyone had in this industry.

This company is currently only sustained by Dilip’s dwindling pockets.

WHEN (not if) he decides to pull the plug on this total failure of a branded business in the US, 80-90% of the people will get 2 weeks severance. A handful have been here more than 5 years and will get an extra week.

 

[anonymous]

44% of the profits come from the US.. so I don’t see that happening

 

[anonymous]

You must have been in management to even write this. Check the dates. Data on tildra not published at hiring time. Management knew but didn’t share. I for asked for the data and was told it was as good as Tremfya. A bold face lie from a manager that probably still continues to lie at Sun. Sun was by all accounts the worst experience everyone had in this industry.

Tildra data was part of the FDA submission for approval. It was out there and many of the key psoriasis KOLs were part of the SUN study team. Most were also on the Tremfya study team (and several others). You did not ask. You deserve what you got after lounging for a year waiting for the launch to happen.

 

[anonymous]

All the TM’s I know are spending 100% of their time trying to get the hell out. Also, my RSM told me they are looking to cut people (w/o severance) who aren’t give 100% in the field.
So watch you six!

 

[anonymous]

44% of the profits come from the US.. so I don’t see that happening

That’s from the generic (price collusion) products.

Profitability of the branded business has decreased the past two years. No more indiscriminate gouging of derms with the Levulan product.

 

[anonymous]

All the TM’s I know are spending 100% of their time trying to get the hell out. Also, my RSM told me they are looking to cut people (w/o severance) who aren’t give 100% in the field.
So watch you six!

We all know working in pharma a territory’s success can all come down to coverage. Some states had favorable commercial coverage at launch which those reps were fortunate to have. Other territories’ access blows and or have as high as 65-70% Medicaid. A lot of factors go into performance and it’s not for lack of effort of a rep. There are rockstar reps who are in bottom third and they are killing themselves everyday and some in top who are coasting with great access, one hour territory circumference, and a couple speakers writing. Look no hate here at all. I like most all the reps I’ve met on this team. Launch has been a cluster and that’s upper management’s fault. Hopefully with the two NSDs that resigned things will hope to get better or at least truth be told more.
Regarding data availability not all was available during initial hiring.

 

[anonymous]

We all know working in pharma a territory’s success can all come down to coverage. Some states had favorable commercial coverage at launch which those reps were fortunate to have. Other territories’ access blows and or have as high as 65-70% Medicaid. A lot of factors go into performance and it’s not for lack of effort of a rep. There are rockstar reps who are in bottom third and they are killing themselves everyday and some in top who are coasting with great access, one hour territory circumference, and a couple speakers writing. Look no hate here at all. I like most all the reps I’ve met on this team. Launch has been a cluster and that’s upper management’s fault. Hopefully with the two NSDs that resigned things will hope to get better or at least truth be told more.
Regarding data availability not all was available during initial hiring.

I get so tired of people like this in the industry. They suck at their job, and always justify it by blaming managed care. I am in an average MHC territory, and have been on 4 trips in my career. So even if you were screwed at launch, your goals have now caught up and are much easier than those that crushed it. Learn how to sell, Sally!

 

[anonymous]

I get so tired of people like this in the industry. They suck at their job, and always justify it by blaming managed care. I am in an average MHC territory, and have been on 4 trips in my career. So even if you were screwed at launch, your goals have now caught up and are much easier than those that crushed it. Learn how to sell, Sally!

I read your post and one you are responding to. I see both points. Thing is some reps who got hired after 1/2019 to fill for reps who left came into shit territories regardless of plan coverage. Prior rep didn’t do job so they don’t even have a base of scripts or goals to catch up too. These folks are starting from ground zero and didn’t have a year to profile or whatever. I talked to a new hire and this person was told by the RSM who since left that the territory was in the top 20 and it’s in bottom. Rep called a few other people at Sun and those people were instructed to lie about territory. So in this case, “Sally” got screwed. Can’t always blame MHC and can’t always blame rep’s ability to sell.