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That, right there. My empathy for most type IIs is almost non-existent now, after hearing day after day stories about friggin fat lazy diabetics. I still acknowledge the genetic component, but beyond that, most of them just want a pill to fix everything so they can continue their lifestyle however they want to. If they get cancer, they may have gotten cancer anyway, irregardless of the medicine they're taking. Just from their choice of habits. Much less if they also smoke. The majority could get along with just Metformin if they tried, or "would have tried" before they burned up their pancreas.

Something will take all of us in the end. Stop blaming the medicine for cancer and get to the actual problem ---- personal choices, genetics, and the diabetes itself. No patient is forced to take the medicine. They can just die from their own genetics, laziness, out of control weight and eating habits, and plain stupidity, for that matter.
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Except that all medicines have side effects and in Farxiga's case one more just might be bladder cancer. No matter ones lifestyle that's still an added risk.
 




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Except that all medicines have side effects and in Farxiga's case one more just might be bladder cancer. No matter ones lifestyle that's still an added risk.
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It's 0.17%. a long way from statistically significant. If you can control EVERY 0.17% risk, you had better not get in a car, or an airplane, go to work or shopping, take many medications, play sports, etc. Diabetics expose themselves to far greater risks with non-compliance, lack of control, and unhealthy lifestyle. Not to mention, it would be difficult to specifically claim that tiny incidence of cancer was absolutely caused by any medication in a population already at higher risk.
 




Anonymous said:
Except that all medicines have side effects and in Farxiga's case one more just might be bladder cancer. No matter ones lifestyle that's still an added risk.
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Just might be, indeed. Go do the math and calculate all the increased health risks diabetics have and how many are more than 0.17%. How many of those risks could they lessen if they put the effort in? Now re-calculate and see how many really even need a product like Farxiga? Not very damn many.
 




Keep it in perspective. No one is denying badder cancer is listed on the PI, however google bladder cancer risks and percentages. Cancer.org and other sites list it all out. Risk rates increase with age and gender, and smoking is the #1 cause. So if you have an over 55, male, smoker, even without being diabetic, the chance for bladder cancer is already right in that ballpark, if not more. If they are diabetic and not in control with glucose spilling into the urine, bingo, and congratulations.

Put the blame where it belongs and stop over exaggerating. If only diabetics held themselves to that same standard and quit looking for an excuse or a cop out. When will they realize lots of people have an illness or disease they must manage, whether they're a cardiac patient or someone with a past orthopedic injury. That's part of life.
 












Anonymous said:
It's 0.17%. a long way from statistically significant. If you can control EVERY 0.17% risk, you had better not get in a car, or an airplane, go to work or shopping, take many medications, play sports, etc. Diabetics expose themselves to far greater risks with non-compliance, lack of control, and unhealthy lifestyle. Not to mention, it would be difficult to specifically claim that tiny incidence of cancer was absolutely caused by any medication in a population already at higher risk.
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In your first two sentences you have revealed to those who understand statistics that you do not understand statistics at the most basic level.
 




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