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don't mean to rain on your parade. I remember all that s*** but there's worse much worse. I could tell stories that would make the headlines and burn the inside of your ears out make you wish you never came to this hole
 












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Your utter ignorance of scientific facts is astonishing. There is a huge difference in the action on the body between a full opiate agonist and subxone, which had naloxone added. Second if your crush Suboxone to inject it, it's rendered ineffectual. Got that? Second, you do not swallow Subxone unlike full agonists, nor can you crush and snort. It's ingenious combination and action, make it COMPLETELY different because it's a partial opiate agonist. You don't care, because your main point is to spew whatever someone has fed you and you think you sound smart. You are a half witted fool, with an agenda to puss someone off. Last and not least it has to be taken sublingual, though I doubt you know what that means. It tastes very bad, minimize any desire to want to stay on it very long. Finally, weaning off a paralegal agonist is far easier and more tolerable and mire successful than trying to get off full agonists such as oxycontin, heroin, methadone and the like. The good people who sell this med, work hard to educate idiots like you. You clearly have never met the addicts whose lives have been saved and whose families are eternally grateful for the clinical liaisons who got the message through thick headed people, that opiate addicts now gave a choice, a choice to get off opiates altogether and in combination with proper counseling are now living full and prosperous lives. The pain med and methadone industry are the ones you should direct your vitriol to. Unlike you, I've sat in a room of opiate addicts whose lives have been saved directly as a result of a rep convincing multiple primary care docs to screen for addiction, get patients into treatment and counseling early. What a shame you missed our on a lot of tears, hugs and the real story on thus miracle treatment option. Yes, I've met people like you and listened to your ignorant rants. You do your best to undermine Suboxone and make addicts and their families think there is no hope. God help you. Even doctors, nurse and counselors get way out there, twisting in their thinking by some pissed off pain med company, methadone rep, and Nan once you get a little info and half truth you bloody run with it. I'm sitting here right now with someone whose life had been saved. Mine.
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Suboxone is an opiate.

When you take Suboxone everyday, you are physically dependent on an opiate.
 






anonymous said:
don't mean to rain on your parade. I remember all that s*** but there's worse much worse. I could tell stories that would make the headlines and burn the inside of your ears out make you wish you never came to this hole
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It is a shame. I left over a year ago and still talk with some people. Heard a lot more after I left. One shock I heard was MM in Pitt earned her way up the latter backstabbing and getting wasted at meetings early on with LK going to room with others for rendezvous. Don't know but heard as you said la lot of really nasty things. Probably some truth to it and some gossip. Usually there is some truth to what you hear. So sad.
 






anonymous said:
Suboxone is an opiate.

When you take Suboxone everyday, you are physically dependent on an opiate.
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Gee thanks for that extraordinary insight. Let me help you with your overt stupidity. We are addicted to opiates. We cannot go off them abruptly or we may die. There are 2 options, only one of which is supported as superior safe effective and thats weaning off with a partial opiate agonist. Suboxone is that. Or perhaps your are in the keep em on the full opiate agonist wagon, thereby ensuring we NEVER can wean off opiates. Got it numbskull?
 






anonymous said:
Gee thanks for that extraordinary insight. Let me help you with your overt stupidity. We are addicted to opiates. We cannot go off them abruptly or we may die. There are 2 options, only one of which is supported as superior safe effective and thats weaning off with a partial opiate agonist. Suboxone is that. Or perhaps your are in the keep em on the full opiate agonist wagon, thereby ensuring we NEVER can wean off opiates. Got it numbskull?
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...and for how long now have you been "weaning off" of Suboxone? I'll bet it's been many years. There are more paths off opiates than what you describe above.

There are 3 reasons you would not include all the options for solving the problem:
1) You have not done enough research
2) You are a liar
3) You are not very bright
 






anonymous said:
It is a shame. I left over a year ago and still talk with some people. Heard a lot more after I left. One shock I heard was MM in Pitt earned her way up the latter backstabbing and getting wasted at meetings early on with LK going to room with others for rendezvous. Don't know but heard as you said la lot of really nasty things. Probably some truth to it and some gossip. Usually there is some truth to what you hear. So sad.
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Wow, thanks for thinking about all of your former co-workers to come back to this message board, more than a year after you "left" to give us this important information. It really is a "shame" that you are no longer around to share your keen insight into people's careers that have moved past your own.

We were all wondering why, after almost 10 short years at the company, MM was promoted. But it is obvious now that her rocketship career trajectory could only have been fueled by "getting wasted and going to room with others for rendezvous" with LK.

Wish you were still with RB(Oops I mean Indivior, I got confused based on where you posted) we could use your candor and willingness to spread unfounded rumors so that this company can get back on track.
 






anonymous said:
Wow, thanks for thinking about all of your former co-workers to come back to this message board, more than a year after you "left" to give us this important information. It really is a "shame" that you are no longer around to share your keen insight into people's careers that have moved past your own.

We were all wondering why, after almost 10 short years at the company, MM was promoted. But it is obvious now that her rocketship career trajectory could only have been fueled by "getting wasted and going to room with others for rendezvous" with LK.

Wish you were still with RB(Oops I mean Indivior, I got confused based on where you posted) we could use your candor and willingness to spread unfounded rumors so that this company can get back on track.
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You assume I have come back. Never visited this website until a couple months ago someone pointed out a thread they wanted me to read because they were upset it was about them. No problem you taking shots at me with your ridiculous "quote marks" and sarcasm as I was pretty clear responding to someone else's comment about backstabbers. I could care less who screws who or gets promoted, or not, for doing it. I said some stuff that probably has some truth to it and some not. I also said it was sad and a shame because it is. And yes, I do not like MM as she has done her fair share of backstabbing. I was only with this and another Pharma company for a couple years and I, personally, didn't like the backstabbing and unethical behavior I witnessed (not rumor). As far as keen insight about someone else's career moving past my own....you couldn't pay me enough to be in management. Not for any reason other than I have no interest in it. I love field sales and I continue to do it today (away from this industry). Same kind of shit no matter what company you are with. Whether you choose to believe it or not, there is likely some truth to stuff on this site. Sure, you have disgruntled workers, past or present, ranting or sharing "unfounded rumors". Sadly, the one I shared was not a rumor. Seems many unethical things play into how you get promoted, rewarded, or keep a job at RB/Indivior not just one or two indiscretions. I certainly hope my candor and willingness to spread more "unfounded rumors" in this post helps get everyone back on track. Respond if you will.......2 months and 2 comments on this site is enough. Interesting website but a waste of time.
 












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You assume I have come back. Never visited this website until a couple months ago someone pointed out a thread they wanted me to read because they were upset it was about them. No problem you taking shots at me with your ridiculous "quote marks" and sarcasm as I was pretty clear responding to someone else's comment about backstabbers. I could care less who screws who or gets promoted, or not, for doing it. I said some stuff that probably has some truth to it and some not. I also said it was sad and a shame because it is. And yes, I do not like MM as she has done her fair share of backstabbing. I was only with this and another Pharma company for a couple years and I, personally, didn't like the backstabbing and unethical behavior I witnessed (not rumor). As far as keen insight about someone else's career moving past my own....you couldn't pay me enough to be in management. Not for any reason other than I have no interest in it. I love field sales and I continue to do it today (away from this industry). Same kind of shit no matter what company you are with. Whether you choose to believe it or not, there is likely some truth to stuff on this site. Sure, you have disgruntled workers, past or present, ranting or sharing "unfounded rumors". Sadly, the one I shared was not a rumor. Seems many unethical things play into how you get promoted, rewarded, or keep a job at RB/Indivior not just one or two indiscretions. I certainly hope my candor and willingness to spread more "unfounded rumors" in this post helps get everyone back on track. Respond if you will.......2 months and 2 comments on this site is enough. Interesting website but a waste of time.
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I don't think I have ever read a more idiotic post. Let's just put the grammatical errors and sentence structure aside. Do you even see the inconsistencies in your diatribe?
You say you "heard" and it's just a rumor.
Then you said it is not a rumor.
You say don't like MM because of backstabbing, yet you come on to a public message board and post what you initially claimed was a rumor.
Your actions are an example of the lowest form of employee and personal behavior.
 






anonymous said:
I don't think I have ever read a more idiotic post. Let's just put the grammatical errors and sentence structure aside. Do you even see the inconsistencies in your diatribe?
You say you "heard" and it's just a rumor.
Then you said it is not a rumor.
You say don't like MM because of backstabbing, yet you come on to a public message board and post what you initially claimed was a rumor.
Your actions are an example of the lowest form of employee and personal behavior.
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anonymous said:
I don't think I have ever read a more idiotic post. Let's just put the grammatical errors and sentence structure aside. Do you even see the inconsistencies in your diatribe?
You say you "heard" and it's just a rumor.
Then you said it is not a rumor.
You say don't like MM because of backstabbing, yet you come on to a public message board and post what you initially claimed was a rumor.
Your actions are an example of the lowest form of employee and personal behavior.
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Yours might be a bit more idiotic. Have you ever read posts on this site? C,mon get real. That post pretty darn accurate. Would love to see them comment back to you!
 












anonymous said:
...and for how long now have you been "weaning off" of Suboxone? I'll bet it's been many years. There are more paths off opiates than what you describe above.

There are 3 reasons you would not include all the options for solving the problem:
1) You have not done enough research
2) You are a liar
3) You are not very bright[/QUOTE

Ah, the ASS u mer. Clearly, you are all 3 of the above. You have an agenda and know nothing about addiction, other than what you want to know. Walk a mile in my shoes, learn to really want to help people , be nonjudgemental, as well as objective. You've failed with your boring incompetance, stupid assumptions and overall ignorance.
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Your psychic abilities would be more appropriate on a mystic hotline, a hole. Your assumptions about nlme and how long I've been weaning off opiates, indicate mental instability and arrogance. There is no place for either of those traits in helping people. You are a dolt, likely with $$ tattooed on your eyelids and a corn cob stuck up your butt. Go work in a prison, where your skills would pay off. Nonobjective need not be in this business.
 






Well said above poster. "Many paths to weaning off opiates" was a comment made by someone who doesn't know anything factual about treating this disease. Getting off opiates is not a Zen journey, fool. The paths you refer to are not legitimate treatments. The only treatment with an above average success rate in getting people off opiates, has been researched extensively by experts in addiction. You want the details, really want the truth? Go do your homework and leave the rainbows and unicorns to those on their pink pony paths to Lala land.
 


















anonymous said:
Well said above poster. "Many paths to weaning off opiates" was a comment made by someone who doesn't know anything factual about treating this disease. Getting off opiates is not a Zen journey, fool. The paths you refer to are not legitimate treatments. The only treatment with an above average success rate in getting people off opiates, has been researched extensively by experts in addiction. You want the details, really want the truth? Go do your homework and leave the rainbows and unicorns to those on their pink pony paths to Lala land.
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Yeah, but I've done a lot of research and can't find anything that demonstrate Suboxone has an "above average success rate in getting people off opiates."

I've found tons of studies that demonstrate Suboxone is very useful in transitioning people from one opiate (heroin, oxy, etc), to a different opiate (Suboxone), but I haven't found any in which people actually stop using opiates all together.

All studies I've found that include Suboxone (an opiate) also include patients staying on Suboxone. Actually, all the the Suboxone studies I've found state this as the goal: retention.

You seem to be pretty knowledgeable on this subject, can you point me in the right direction? Name a study that clearly demonstrates Suboxone has an "above average success rate getting people off opiates (including Suboxone)." Just the study author and publication journal will suffice, I'll take it from there.

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anonymous said:
Opiates really aren't that bad in moderation.
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I'm interested to know your definition of moderation.

Taking an opiate every day for many years does not meet the definition of moderation.

Take for example a college student who was addicted to pain pills for 10 months.

His parents intervened and got him transitioned to Suboxone. Then he took Suboxone every day for 5 years.

Scenarios like this are common and do not meet the definition of "moderation."
 






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