Authorized Generic

[anonymous]

No one asked for sympathy?
Respiratory reps had years to make a change and knew it was coming. Frankly, it lasted longer than anyone expected. The majority stayed because they want severence or are in denial.
Empa is still in its prime! This would not be happening if SGLT2i’s were not part of IRA.
Happy patients will have a generic copay, but this sets an unfavorable precedence for the future of industry. It is a big warning for all of us.[/QUOT

For someone not looking for sympathy, you’re certainly a whiny little bitch

 

[anonymous]

Someone explain to me how this does not destroy Jardiance market share

 

[anonymous]

Someone explain to me how this does not destroy Jardiance market share

Drop the Mic

 

[anonymous]

Someone explain to me how this does not destroy Jardiance market share

Everyone currently selling an sglt2 is going to be unemployed by mid year... And you're worried about what it will do to market share?

Lol unbelievable.

 

[anonymous]

Non-formulary drugs typically only include brand-name medications

 

[anonymous]

In the past a manufacture has been able to hold off the introduction of a generic to the market for at least a few years. Why isn't that the case here?

 

[anonymous]

In the past a manufacture has been able to hold off the introduction of a generic to the market for at least a few years. Why isn't that the case here?

Because it’s an “Authorized Generic”

 

[anonymous]

Does anyone know when the authorized generic will be available and how quickly it can get on formularies?

while it could launch at any time, this still shows the impact that formulary coverage has on the market.

regardless of their discount, it will be a challenge to usurp Farxiga and Jardiance formulary coverage. And without coverage, the authorized generic will get little traction.

 

[anonymous]

while it could launch at any time, this still shows the impact that formulary coverage has on the market.

regardless of their discount, it will be a challenge to usurp Farxiga and Jardiance formulary coverage. And without coverage, the authorized generic will get little traction.

It will be added to all formularies with a generic copay. Why wouldn’t it be? AZ knows what they are doing.

 

[anonymous]

It will be added to all formularies with a generic copay. Why wouldn’t it be? AZ knows what they are doing.

It needs time to get through all of the P&T’s. This takes a few months, but when it’s done, it’s done. You have time to get your resume together.

 

[anonymous]

It will be added to all formularies with a generic copay. Why wouldn’t it be? AZ knows what they are doing.

ok, let’s play this out. Pretend you’re NOT a sample dropper and you’re actually a pharmacy manager at a PBM with a budget to manage and guaranteed rebates to pass through to your clients.

you can get Farxiga AG at a 35% WAC DISCOUNT compared to branded FX or JD. You will lose decrease or lose your branded rebates and will not recoop anything on copay.

Or, you can stick with JD or FX at a 60-70% REBATE which is a lower net price and also provides guaranteed rebates to pass through to your employer/union/plan clients.

which would you choose? And remember, you’re NOT delivering Panera to an office anymore. You need to get dressed for work and actually crunch numbers with your phone calculator.

 

[anonymous]

ok, let’s play this out. Pretend you’re NOT a sample dropper and you’re actually a pharmacy manager at a PBM with a budget to manage and guaranteed rebates to pass through to your clients.

you can get Farxiga AG at a 35% WAC DISCOUNT compared to branded FX or JD. You will lose decrease or lose your branded rebates and will not recoop anything on copay.

Or, you can stick with JD or FX at a 60-70% REBATE which is a lower net price and also provides guaranteed rebates to pass through to your employer/union/plan clients.

which would you choose? And remember, you’re NOT delivering Panera to an office anymore. You need to get dressed for work and actually crunch numbers with your phone calculator.[/QUOTE

Ok, what are we overlooking? What was the goal of AZ?

 

[anonymous]

ok, let’s play this out. Pretend you’re NOT a sample dropper and you’re actually a pharmacy manager at a PBM with a budget to manage and guaranteed rebates to pass through to your clients.

you can get Farxiga AG at a 35% WAC DISCOUNT compared to branded FX or JD. You will lose decrease or lose your branded rebates and will not recoop anything on copay.

Or, you can stick with JD or FX at a 60-70% REBATE which is a lower net price and also provides guaranteed rebates to pass through to your employer/union/plan clients.

which would you choose? And remember, you’re NOT delivering Panera to an office anymore. You need to get dressed for work and actually crunch numbers with your phone calculator.

 

[anonymous]

Ok, what are we overlooking? What was the goal of AZ?

 

[anonymous]

ok, let’s play this out. Pretend you’re NOT a sample dropper and you’re actually a pharmacy manager at a PBM with a budget to manage and guaranteed rebates to pass through to your clients.

you can get Farxiga AG at a 35% WAC DISCOUNT compared to branded FX or JD. You will lose decrease or lose your branded rebates and will not recoop anything on copay.

Or, you can stick with JD or FX at a 60-70% REBATE which is a lower net price and also provides guaranteed rebates to pass through to your employer/union/plan clients.

which would you choose? And remember, you’re NOT delivering Panera to an office anymore. You need to get dressed for work and actually crunch numbers with your phone calculator.[/QUOT


So you know the rebates are 60-70%?
There has to be something missing or this would not be happening.

 

[anonymous]

ok, let’s play this out. Pretend you’re NOT a sample dropper and you’re actually a pharmacy manager at a PBM with a budget to manage and guaranteed rebates to pass through to your clients.

you can get Farxiga AG at a 35% WAC DISCOUNT compared to branded FX or JD. You will lose decrease or lose your branded rebates and will not recoop anything on copay.

Or, you can stick with JD or FX at a 60-70% REBATE which is a lower net price and also provides guaranteed rebates to pass through to your employer/union/plan clients.

which would you choose? And remember, you’re NOT delivering Panera to an office anymore. You need to get dressed for work and actually crunch numbers with your phone calculator.

 

[anonymous]

ok, let’s play this out. Pretend you’re NOT a sample dropper and you’re actually a pharmacy manager at a PBM with a budget to manage and guaranteed rebates to pass through to your clients.

you can get Farxiga AG at a 35% WAC DISCOUNT compared to branded FX or JD. You will lose decrease or lose your branded rebates and will not recoop anything on copay.

Or, you can stick with JD or FX at a 60-70% REBATE which is a lower net price and also provides guaranteed rebates to pass through to your employer/union/plan clients.

which would you choose? And remember, you’re NOT delivering Panera to an office anymore. You need to get dressed for work and actually crunch numbers with your phone calculator.

sounds like a shady pharmacy benefit manager to me. Even shadier than a pharmaceutical company.

 

[anonymous]

ok, let’s play this out. Pretend you’re NOT a sample dropper and you’re actually a pharmacy manager at a PBM with a budget to manage and guaranteed rebates to pass through to your clients.

you can get Farxiga AG at a 35% WAC DISCOUNT compared to branded FX or JD. You will lose decrease or lose your branded rebates and will not recoop anything on copay.

Or, you can stick with JD or FX at a 60-70% REBATE which is a lower net price and also provides guaranteed rebates to pass through to your employer/union/plan clients.

which would you choose? And remember, you’re NOT delivering Panera to an office anymore. You need to get dressed for work and actually crunch numbers with your phone calculator.

That’s exactly why they are doing this! To not get any advantage over their own brand drug. Give me a break

 

[anonymous]

ok, let’s play this out. Pretend you’re NOT a sample dropper and you’re actually a pharmacy manager at a PBM with a budget to manage and guaranteed rebates to pass through to your clients.

you can get Farxiga AG at a 35% WAC DISCOUNT compared to branded FX or JD. You will lose decrease or lose your branded rebates and will not recoop anything on copay.

Or, you can stick with JD or FX at a 60-70% REBATE which is a lower net price and also provides guaranteed rebates to pass through to your employer/union/plan clients.

which would you choose? And remember, you’re NOT delivering Panera to an office anymore. You need to get dressed for work and actually crunch numbers with your phone calculator.

You may want to consider going back to sample dropping, because you don’t know as much as you think you do. And hurry to Panera before your coupon expires!

 

[anonymous]

You may want to consider going back to sample dropping, because you don’t know as much as you think you do. And hurry to Panera before your coupon expires!

What did the poster get wrong? After reading it and reviewing the pricing implications along with the upside for the PBM, sticking with the branded products seems like the fiscally responsible move.